The Keane Effect

From second bottom to top of the Championship, in 37 steps for Sunderland and Roy Keane.

Next season will be their return to the top flight since their embarrassing departure in the 2005/06 campaign in which they finished with the lowest points tally.

Will the name' Roy Keane ' attract players to Sunderland, bearing in mind this new TV-Deal and Niall Quinn's backing the club does have money to spend when required ?

and will his 'never say die' attitude + top discipline standards keep Sunderland up next season ?

"I think most of the players are aware of what's required from me", "That's for the players to be disciplined, to train well, to give 100 per cent for the team. The one or two lads who I think haven't been prepared to do that, I've got rid of them. I want players here who will run through brick walls for each other."

I think they will stay up next year should Niall Quinn give him the required finance to help them stay up. Last season was a very sorry sight, it was almost as if they were going down in November.

He has lots of contacts in the game so maybe in can get the odd favour here and there, like Sir Alex letting him keep Evans for another season. He will need to buy wisely though. I don't think high profile players will move there purely because of Roy Keane. Well not yet anyway.....

Cesc wrote:I don't think high profile players will move there purely because of Roy Keane. Well not yet anyway.....

I think some will, certain Irish players especially.

But there isn't to many high profile Irish players these days, compared to recent years. You are right in the fact that the Irish would be attracted to Roy though as he has bought lots of Irish players over the past year.

Do all French players want to go to Juventus because of Deschamps?

Parks lives wrote:

Cesc wrote:I don't think high profile players will move there purely because of Roy Keane. Well not yet anyway.....

I think some will, certain Irish players especially.

Who are you thinking of?

I'm 90% certain Sunderland will stay up. Keane will have them well drilled on the demands of the EPL - they may even be the Reading of the 07/08 season

I could see players like O'Shea, Ireland, Reid and at a push Duff moving to Sunderland.

Not amazing players granted but all very good premiership players.

I can maybe see O'shea as there's the Utd link and the Irish link - maybe a few other Utd players as well (Richardson. Smith)

I haven't got to see too much of Sunderland this season but judging by last season, they need a decent striker and a couple of defenders - top priority

They have David Connolly .. looked good at the start of this season .. is he really up to the Premiership task

Also there is; Stokes and Daryl Murphy good quality players.

If Keane can get Evans and Simpson on loan from Man United .. a coup , also Keane has praised Nyron Nosworthy as one of his player of the season

Just today Sunderland has been linked with Paul McShane ..

I'm really interested to see how Keane does next season and the players he brings in, because to be honest, I don't think Sunderland have a particularly great side. I think Keane has done very well so far, and they are a side playing with confidence, but it will be interesting to see how they cope next year when it is harder for them to find momentum. They definitely need to make some intelligent signings in my opinion if they want to stay up next year, and we will see how good Keane is in the transfer market, because unsurprisingly his motivational skills have been superb so far.

Sunderland = The UK branch of the Man Utd retirement club.

Real Madrid = The Spanish branch of the Man Utd retirement club.

I think Sunderland might struggle next year, because they are Sunderland and Im not convinced of Keanes managerial qualities yet. He did well this season, but he was given lots of money to spend and brought in a lot of players who otherwise wouldnt have moved to a Championship side. Whilst he could bring in such players who were perhaps too good for the Championship, I cant see top class players moving to Sunderland just because Roy Keane is there. Hes also yet to have a really tough period as a manager.

Sunderland will struggle next year IMO. They have very few players(or none) that are of premiership quality, and the football they play is very similar to that of Sheffield United.

Spend 2 m net , 8 m in and 6 went out , Birmingham spend 4m on McSheffery only so thats not really that big a factor.

I don't think it is even an issue that they will stay up. If they don't finish in the top half i will be very surprised.

I can see him making 6-7 signings, 3-4 big name big players in them.

they will struggle but hope Keano keeps them up.

How many people here have actually watched Sunderland? They're a low grade hoofball team, a tramps Everton if you like.

I've seen them at least 5 times Kimbo.

Hoofball?

Sunderland Utd>>>>>Newcastle City

Who wants to give me odds on a Man U -Sunderland season curtain raiser, courtesy of Sky?

I just hope that Keane encourages his players to take the same robust approach tackling Ronaldo that he himself took tackling Alf-Inge Haaland.

Parks lives wrote:I've seen them at least 5 times Kimbo.

Hoofball?

Yes. Don't tell me you think they play good football.

Who in their squad would you say is proper premiership material?

Roger Hunt wrote:Who wants to give me odds on a Man U -Sunderland season curtain raiser, courtesy of Sky?

I just hope that Keane encourages his players to take the same robust approach tackling Ronaldo that he himself took tackling Alf-Inge Haaland.

Is that Scouse humour or something?

Kimbo wrote:

Parks lives wrote:I've seen them at least 5 times Kimbo.

Hoofball?

Yes. Don't tell me you think they play good football.

Who in their squad would you say is proper premiership material?

Yeah just like rossi would be shite at parma right kimbo. just like keane wouldnt get promoted at all, let alone win the league, we will see sunderland top 10 easily

I don't see much in terms of premier leaue quality in their squad. Can Dwight Yorke cut the mustered in the pl again? I don't think so.

They could be like reading or like sheffield united/watford. Seems more likely they will be like the latter at the moment but is dependent on who they buy.

Reading really stood out the year before and lost 2 games all season when they were promoted, sunderland and birmingham got automatic qualification but lost 12 games each.

Well they lost 4,5 game before Keane was incharge.

Exactly. Keane can't really be faulted for the job he has done so far, he has been superb, but I would be concerned about the quality in the Sunderland squad, because there is only so far you can progress with commitment, motivation, organisation and discipline if the players are less able than those they are competing with. Without wishing to belittle their achievements, Sunderland are not the first club to rapidly climb up the Championship table, and get promoted having been in a precarious situation at the start of the season. Their climb up the table should not be seen as evidence that they will replicate Reading's season, because without investment this summer, their squad lacks the quality that Reading had.

Johnny Evans + Danny Simpson .. have looked good ; if Keane can just keep then on loan.

Daryl Murphy .. he is not a bad player

Stokes .. has potential

Carlos Edwards - can he become a Premiership player ?

same can be said for Nosworthy.

Whitehead, Miller, Tobias Hysén , Ross Wallace and Stern John .. question marks ? , looked good in the Championship , can they step up ?

they just need to add some Premiership quality ; and hopefully Keane can do that.

Quinn has said numerous times he will have lots of money to spend, i can see them spending over 20 mill

Will Keane keep Evans and Simpson on loan? That means they lose 1 half of that defence when they play us, that's almost like giving us 2 byes.

Most promoted teams write off the games vs. the likes of Man Utd anyway.

You made Watford play with their reserve goalkeeper three times last season, that was a huge loss for them.

Its a case that there are many more games than Man Utd.