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    Post by S4P Sat May 19, 2007 7:50 pm

    Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson said his team were denied a clear penalty in the FA Cup final defeat by Chelsea at Wembley.

    He felt Michael Essien fouled Ryan Giggs in extra time, stopping the winger having a chance on goal.

    Ferguson said: "It's a penalty. To lose a game and see that is disappointing.

    "I think the pressure Jose Mourinho put on the referee before the game has certainly worked and I'm disappointed at that."

    In the build-up to the game Chelsea boss Mourinho had called for referee Steve Bennett not to be fooled by any diving or 'provocative tactics'.
    Essien challenged Giggs as the Welshman slid in to try and get on the end of a Wayne Rooney cross.

    Giggs' effort was straight at Chelsea keeper Petr Cech, who appeared to carry the ball over the line as the United player collided into him.

    Ferguson added: "It's a penalty kick. Then the goalkeeper's spilled the ball behind the line.

    "I think it would have been a difficult one for the linesman to call but the referee should be in a better position.

    "We couldn't see where we were but when I see it now it's a penalty."
    Giggs felt that Bennett the referee should have given a goal.

    "It was clearly over the line - that's what I was asking for. I could see it was over the line and he didn't give a free-kick so it was a goal.

    "I felt I was getting to the ball quite comfortably and felt someone touch my leg.

    "But I was claiming for the goal not the penalty.

    "We're disappointed obviously. The big decisions didn't go for us and if you don't get the big decisions it is going to be hard for you.

    "The referees are picked on merit and how they perform throughout the season.

    "The FA Cup is a big occasion and you want the referees to get the big decisions right. They are only human and sometimes they get them wrong but in the Cup final you hope they get them right and today they didn't.

    United assistant Carlos Queiroz also felt that Bennett's decision-making was affected by Mourinho's comments.

    He added: "In some moments we created the better opportunities and we had chances.

    "But unfortunately come the crucial moment in the game the referee missed the most important decision but we are not surprised by that.

    "It is a clear penalty, there is no doubt about that. We are not surprised because after the pressure of the last 15 days it is natural the referee under pressure is not able to make the crucial decision of the game.

    "The more pressure you put on referees the more it seems like some teams and some managers become compensated in the game because nobody does anything about that.

    "We could see that pressure gave a big reward to Chelsea."
    Ferguson blamed tiredness for his side's below-par display in the first FA Cup final back at Wembley.

    He added: "There was a bit of tiredness. The number of games they played eventually gets to them. It was the same for both teams but I think in two or three positions we were tired.

    "The pitch was slow, maybe that didn't help but, from our point of view, we were tired.

    "There was nothing between the two sides. Neither deserved to win or lose and we are disappointed we have lost.

    "It has been exceptional what my players have been through - we just couldn't cross the line."

    Giggs added: "We played well. It was two very good teams but we probably edged it with possession and chances."
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    Post by Fey Sat May 19, 2007 7:51 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu-WCW18aN0
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sat May 19, 2007 7:52 pm

    Giggs should have finished it regardless of what happened. It was a glaring miss.
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    Post by Lard Sat May 19, 2007 8:03 pm

    Clear penalty, terrible ref
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    Post by Kimbo Sat May 19, 2007 8:05 pm

    It's embarrassing.
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    Post by Axeslammer Sat May 19, 2007 8:26 pm

    Giggs should have been sent off for that.

    SAF has clearly bought the ref (looking at some other dodgy decisions that went United's way) and is trying to cover it up this way !
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat May 19, 2007 8:37 pm

    hahaha.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sat May 19, 2007 9:28 pm

    And they called Mourinho a whinger.
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    Post by Lard Sat May 19, 2007 9:30 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:And they called Mourinho a whinger.

    fergie is being kind, i cant believe he doesnt mention the free kick chelsea got just before the goal
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    Post by COTR Sat May 19, 2007 10:21 pm

    lol!

    LMFAO


    didn't see this


    in that case chelsea should have got a penalty for heinze rugby tackling drogba as drogba was about to head a cross in the first few minutes
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    Post by Parks lives Sun May 20, 2007 8:20 am

    First thing I said yesterday. If it wasn't a goal then Essien clearly took out Giggs.
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    Post by Rez Sun May 20, 2007 12:50 pm

    At the time, I could only blame Giggs for missing a goal, but after watching the replays, it is clear we should have had a goal given.

    Essien fouls Giggs

    Giggs then fouls Cech

    The ball crosses the line

    The ref does not blow the whistle for any of the above fouls, so surely a goal should have been given to united, as the ball clearly crosses the line.

    So united didnt get a penalty or a goal, well I guess after the 2005 CL SF, it was Chelsea's turn to get away with it.
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    Post by COTR Sun May 20, 2007 2:38 pm

    Parks lives wrote:First thing I said yesterday. If it wasn't a goal then Essien clearly took out Giggs.
    lol!

    giggs even admitted it wasn't a pen


    slight bias there spank Laughing
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    Post by Tom Sun May 20, 2007 2:44 pm

    just a bit mark
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    Post by COTR Sun May 20, 2007 2:45 pm

    Ballack wrote:just a bit mark
    Indeed Tom Laughing

    Is this even your name ?
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    Post by Parks lives Sun May 20, 2007 2:46 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:First thing I said yesterday. If it wasn't a goal then Essien clearly took out Giggs.
    lol!

    giggs even admitted it wasn't a pen


    slight bias there spank Laughing

    Like Lampard said we should of had the goal.
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    Post by COTR Sun May 20, 2007 2:48 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:First thing I said yesterday. If it wasn't a goal then Essien clearly took out Giggs.
    lol!

    giggs even admitted it wasn't a pen


    slight bias there spank Laughing

    Like Lampard said we should of had the goal.
    lol!

    the difference being giggs was the one actually involved in the incident
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    Cech on the other hand admitted he was fouled which surely isn't in dispute even by extraordinarily biased posters like rez


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    Post by Tom Sun May 20, 2007 2:49 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Ballack wrote:just a bit mark
    Indeed Tom Laughing

    Is this even your name ?
    yeh it is Biggrin
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    Post by Parks lives Sun May 20, 2007 2:54 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:First thing I said yesterday. If it wasn't a goal then Essien clearly took out Giggs.
    lol!

    giggs even admitted it wasn't a pen


    slight bias there spank Laughing

    Like Lampard said we should of had the goal.
    lol!

    the difference being giggs was the one actually involved in the incident
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    Cech on the other hand admitted he was fouled which surely isn't in dispute even by extraordinarily biased posters like rez

    Great conversation. ok
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    Post by COTR Sun May 20, 2007 3:03 pm

    lol!


    Even better comeback Laugh
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    Post by Lordanger Sun May 20, 2007 8:11 pm

    the only reason the ball crossed the line was that Giggs clattered into Cech (accidental), his one knee smashing into Cech's face, the other somewhere about his chest. As the big keeper said: thats a foul.
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    Post by Lard Sun May 20, 2007 8:51 pm

    ih8gerrard wrote:the only reason the ball crossed the line was that Giggs clattered into Cech (accidental), his one knee smashing into Cech's face, the other somewhere about his chest. As the big keeper said: thats a foul.

    This is not even a discussion. the ref made many C0ck ups, who is mentioning this as a goal?
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    Post by Lordanger Sun May 20, 2007 8:56 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    ih8gerrard wrote:the only reason the ball crossed the line was that Giggs clattered into Cech (accidental), his one knee smashing into Cech's face, the other somewhere about his chest. As the big keeper said: thats a foul.

    This is not even a discussion. the ref made many C0ck ups, who is mentioning this as a goal?

    I thought the ref did ok. Sounds a bit like sour grapes to me from fergie.
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    Post by COTR Sun May 20, 2007 8:59 pm

    ih8gerrard wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:
    ih8gerrard wrote:the only reason the ball crossed the line was that Giggs clattered into Cech (accidental), his one knee smashing into Cech's face, the other somewhere about his chest. As the big keeper said: thats a foul.

    This is not even a discussion. the ref made many C0ck ups, who is mentioning this as a goal?

    I thought the ref did ok. Sounds a bit like sour grapes to me from fergie.
    don't start Lrd on the ref

    He cost united the game apparently Laughing
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    Post by Kimbo Sun May 20, 2007 9:00 pm

    This is pathetic and embarrassing, there wasn't even any contact between Essien and Giggs. <Ale>
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    Post by Lordanger Sun May 20, 2007 9:02 pm

    Kimbo wrote:This is pathetic and embarrassing, there wasn't even any contact between Essien and Giggs. <Ale>

    indeed. It was just an awful miss from a usually good player.
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    Post by Lard Sun May 20, 2007 9:23 pm

    COTR wrote:
    ih8gerrard wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:
    ih8gerrard wrote:the only reason the ball crossed the line was that Giggs clattered into Cech (accidental), his one knee smashing into Cech's face, the other somewhere about his chest. As the big keeper said: thats a foul.

    This is not even a discussion. the ref made many C0ck ups, who is mentioning this as a goal?

    I thought the ref did ok. Sounds a bit like sour grapes to me from fergie.
    don't start Lrd on the ref

    He cost united the game apparently Laughing

    If he made the correct call before the goal the goal would not have happenend so yes he did. The over the line thing of course this is not a goal. But the penalty is not a crazy claim

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