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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri May 25, 2007 3:53 pm

    That's the thing Rez. Man U are definitely the best team in England because your championship was not irregular.

    In Italy, this year, Inter got a hare's head-start, and there was no Juve. Deep down inside, they know that this title will always be cheapened by those undeniable facts.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri May 25, 2007 3:56 pm

    Thats true ok

    Milan for the first half of the season were relatively poor, largely I think as a result of the dented morale from starting behind everyone else
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    Post by gone Fri May 25, 2007 4:05 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Thats true ok

    Milan for the first half of the season were relatively poor, largely I think as a result of the dented morale from starting behind everyone else

    Also because no good player would came to Milan last summer and we got Oliveira and no RB.
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    Post by 110% Fri May 25, 2007 4:11 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Thats true ok

    Milan for the first half of the season were relatively poor, largely I think as a result of the dented morale from starting behind everyone else

    and the $h!t form of players like pirlo after the world cup
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    Post by Rez Fri May 25, 2007 4:13 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:That's the thing Rez. Man U are definitely the best team in England because your championship was not irregular.

    In Italy, this year, Inter got a hare's head-start, and there was no Juve. Deep down inside, they know that this title will always be cheapened by those undeniable facts.

    Dont let bluenine hear you say that, or he will get LRD on you. Wink

    Next season in seri A should be interesting with Juve back, however I dont think it will be a true season until the season after that, when we sill the Italian Renaissance.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 pm

    but inter have better team then juve had last season i would say. and milan/juve are only two teams inter had to meet. i cant see what is going to be different next season. milan still have a old defence and who is to say that they can be stable in a hole season since they havent proved it in the last 3 seasons. juve are not going to compete for the title next season because they simply dont have the players for it. roma could very well be in there but will they learn from this season or break like they have done at other times after a succesfull season.
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    Post by Luis Fri May 25, 2007 7:21 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:but inter have better team then juve had last season i would say. and milan/juve are only two teams inter had to meet. i cant see what is going to be different next season. milan still have a old defence and who is to say that they can be stable in a hole season since they havent proved it in the last 3 seasons. juve are not going to compete for the title next season because they simply dont have the players for it. roma could very well be in there but will they learn from this season or break like they have done at other times after a succesfull season.

    Juve have a fantastic spirit though as well as some experienced class, plus Juve will strengthen in the summer for sure! I think Juve can challenge next season
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri May 25, 2007 7:44 pm

    Luis wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:but inter have better team then juve had last season i would say. and milan/juve are only two teams inter had to meet. i cant see what is going to be different next season. milan still have a old defence and who is to say that they can be stable in a hole season since they havent proved it in the last 3 seasons. juve are not going to compete for the title next season because they simply dont have the players for it. roma could very well be in there but will they learn from this season or break like they have done at other times after a succesfull season.

    Juve have a fantastic spirit though as well as some experienced class, plus Juve will strengthen in the summer for sure! I think Juve can challenge next season

    70 mill worth of strengthening.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri May 25, 2007 7:48 pm

    juve might compete but its most likely that they dont because if even if they get good players it will take time. and just looking here you can see all the pressure that will be on them. they will prob get either uefa cup or maybe a 4.place without challening. i could be wrong but its most likely that they wont compete.
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    Post by merseyman Sat May 26, 2007 12:41 am

    Wow, there have been some mammoth posts in this thread... it's as much as I can do to read them, let alone find time to contribute!

    First off, congrats to Milan for winning the CL. This isn't a great Milan team. Compared to the '88-'89 team, the '94 team, or the 2004 team (that were knocked out by Deportivo), they're dangerously close to being a one-man band. Because, for all the endeavour of Gattuso, Nesta and co., the overriding impression is: "Stop Kaka, and the job is practically done". But Milan decided way back that they'd concentrate on the CL (as indeed did Liverpool), and results have proved them right.

    And it's not yet a civil offence: in fact, I think we're going to see it more and more from now on. I'd compare it to a versatile athlete at the Olympics who, instead of entering for the 100m, 200m, 4x100 relay and the long jump, opts to do just the latter in order to make sure of that prized gold medal. The likes of Man Utd and Inter have played stunning football for 90% of this season, but if you still haven't made sure of the league by April (as was United's case... and full credit to Chelsea for pushing them to the end) and you're also in the running for the Cups, then something has to give (and I don't just mean Rio Ferdinand's groin). Milan's performance against United at San Siro was breathtaking (at least for the first hour). But if you look at it in the light of United's struggles during the same period against Portsmouth, Sheff. Utd, Middlesboro, Everton and even Watford (for a substantial part of that F.A. Cup semi), then it becomes clear that Milan were dealing with a patched up, thoroughly knackered (mentally and physically) version of the real thing. Not that Milan care... and right they are: you can only beat who's in front of you, and they did that all right.

    And if push comes to shove, few would deny that Liverpool were the better team on Wednesday. Because like Milan, Benitez's team had also been wrapped in cotton wool for most of the winter/spring, setting their sights on this one competition. In fact, Liverpool were first to every ball, dominated possession (and territorial advantage), forced more corners, and had more shots on goal, albeit without ever really setting the world alight. But of course, there was that little matter of Istanbul 2005: a spectacular game that had just about everything (Wednesday night wasn't even a distant cousin... and indeed Benitez had promised it wouldn't be!). And Milan really were dealt a cruel blow there. Wednesday night redressed the balance: one cup each, and that's what the record books will show. Of course, it's not very fair on players like Crespo and Shevchenko on the one hand, and Mascherano and Pennant on the other. Maybe I'm of the old school, but I'm not too enamoured with the fact that football so often rewards the "wrong" team. Contrast with rugby: it's almost a given that the better team WILL win. You can have the world's greatest goalkicker, but if your pack doesn't win ball and force errors, the guy won't even get his boots dirty. I've no problem when a team proves themselves to be the better side on the day, but I can't take on board this idea that the scoreboard is the ultimate indicator of who deserves to win.

    Enough woffling... the thread is about Italian football (and Milan), right? Well, I thought the performance the other night was mediocre to say the least. Maldini and Jankulovski were comical at times, and the eagerness of Ambrosini and Gattuso to belt the ball into row F suggests that things were certainly not going according to plan. Canny? Cranky would be closer to the mark. But I was very impressed by Oddo, Nesta, Dida (dealt competently with the shots that came his way), and even Inzaghi (an arrogant knob on and off the field, but you can't argue with a goalscoring record like that). Maldini? It should have been his finest hour, but I couldn't believe how many times he gave the ball away. That said, the guy IS a legend. I saw one of his first matches at San Siro, a 2-1 home defeat against Naples (featuring a certain Diego Maradona at the height of his powers), and it seems like a century ago. Maybe it's time for UEFA to award a "career prize", a bit like the Oscar ad honoris given to Paul Newman. The fact that Cannavaro, who really couldn't hold a candle to Maldini as a footballer, was recognised as the world's best last year makes this issue all the more pressing.

    To sum up (and not before time, I hear you say!), I don't think Milan are currently the best team in Europe, Italy or even Milan (sorry, Forza!). But it's hard to begrudge them Wednesday night, given what happened two years ago. Hmm, I'll rephrase that: it's hard to begrudge it to Ancellotti and the players. I'd wish a thousand Istanbuls on Berlusconi and Galliani, but that's another story Wink

    P.S: What was that about mammoth posts?
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat May 26, 2007 1:00 am

    cheers

    Merseyman's back!

    Fair points, and I respect your opinions (even though I vehemently disagree). At least we can agree on one thing: Maldini IS a legend.

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