whos bigger: AC milan vs. real madrid

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

Fey wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

Yeah, f@ck you Rai

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

Fey wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

No, you spend jew money

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

How does this relate to anything?

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

How does this relate to anything?

Its impossible for Ajax to compete for any International honours in the modern day .. winning 1 European Cup is as great as a achievement to what the Bigger teams have achieved.

Ballack wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

How does this relate to anything?

Its impossible for Ajax to compete for any International honours in the modern day .. winning 1 European Cup is as great as a achievement to what the Bigger teams have achieved.

Get some money then jerk.

Axeslammer wrote:

110% wrote:
Milan were found guilty and relegated, but puro and axe don't like facts to get in the way

What point of me are you trying to contradict here ?

Axeslammer wrote:

shazlx wrote:Recently in Europe (20 years or even ten) then I say Milan but Madrid have much more domestic titles which shows how much more they have dominated throughout their history.

*cough* Milan had to contend with other clubs buying titles, Real owned the ref corps all by itself *cough*

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

How does this relate to anything?

Its impossible for Ajax to compete for any International honours in the modern day .. winning 1 European Cup is as great as a achievement to what the Bigger teams have achieved.

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Mihawkavelli wrote:btw

since 1989

European Cup wins

Milan - 5 (89, 90, 94, 2003 + 2007)
Real Madrid - 3 (1998, 2000 + 2002)

Who the f*ck cares? You want to throw out football before 1989? I guess Ajax only have one European Cup then.

We don't spend 'hollywood' money

How does this relate to anything?

Its impossible for Ajax to compete for any International honours in the modern day .. winning 1 European Cup is as great as a achievement to what the Bigger teams have achieved.

I was talking about the past. According to your post, apparently football didn't matter before 1989 (hence your attempt to diminish Real Madrid's accomplishments). If that is the case then the trio of European Cups won by Ajax and Cruyff are irrelevant.

Jaime wrote:
I was talking about the past. According to your post, apparently football didn't matter before 1989 (hence your attempt to diminish Real Madrid's accomplishments). If that is the case then the trio of European Cups won by Ajax and Cruyff are irrelevant.

bluenine wrote:yeah, thats so silly. maybe we should just wait for a few years and then say that Milan's EC wins in the 80s have no meaning coz they happened more than 20 years ago

Fact of the matter is, Real 9, Milan 7, Liverpool 5. The top 3, thats the way it is. As of now.

Jaime wrote:
I was talking about the past. According to your post, apparently football didn't matter before 1989 (hence your attempt to diminish Real Madrid's accomplishments). If that is the case then the trio of European Cups won by Ajax and Cruyff are irrelevant.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:yeah, thats so silly. maybe we should just wait for a few years and then say that Milan's EC wins in the 80s have no meaning coz they happened more than 20 years ago

Fact of the matter is, Real 9, Milan 7, Liverpool 5. The top 3, thats the way it is. As of now.

Jaime wrote:
I was talking about the past. According to your post, apparently football didn't matter before 1989 (hence your attempt to diminish Real Madrid's accomplishments). If that is the case then the trio of European Cups won by Ajax and Cruyff are irrelevant.

I agree.

UEFA ranking (last 5 years):

1. Milan 133.8 pts
2. Barcelona 119.4
3. Liverpool 112.6
4. Inter 107.8
5. Arsenal 104.6
6. Real Madrid 104.4
7. Chelsea 99.6
8. Manchester 99.6
9. Valencia 99.4
10. Lyon 95.7

bluenine wrote:Yeah, thats the official current ranking, based on last 5 years.

People can try and distort all they want, but these hard facts won't go away.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:yeah, thats so silly. maybe we should just wait for a few years and then say that Milan's EC wins in the 80s have no meaning coz they happened more than 20 years ago

Fact of the matter is, Real 9, Milan 7, Liverpool 5. The top 3, thats the way it is. As of now.

Jaime wrote:
I was talking about the past. According to your post, apparently football didn't matter before 1989 (hence your attempt to diminish Real Madrid's accomplishments). If that is the case then the trio of European Cups won by Ajax and Cruyff are irrelevant.

I agree.

UEFA ranking (last 5 years):

1. Milan 133.8 pts
2. Barcelona 119.4
3. Liverpool 112.6
4. Inter 107.8
5. Arsenal 104.6
6. Real Madrid 104.4
7. Chelsea 99.6
8. Manchester 99.6
9. Valencia 99.4
10. Lyon 95.7

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:What that ranking (over the last 5 years) does show is that Milan have been the best team in Europe by some distance. Their consistency has been mind blowing. If Milan win another CL before the decade is up, this club will have earned the right to be hailed as enthusiastically as the Grande Milan of 15 years ago.

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:While milan has surely been the most consistent team in europe they have not been to impressive in all those years. the only year i think they were truly the best team in europe was in 03/04 when they went out to depor. otherwise they have used their experience well and has done well but in no way have they dominated.

ads_afc wrote:You've also spent the most money though: I also dont think that when you've won the CL you've actually been the best in Europe.

Especially in Europe, you are overly reliant on Kaka.

ads_afc wrote:You've also spent the most money though: I also dont think that when you've won the CL you've actually been the best in Europe.

Especially in Europe, you are overly reliant on Kaka.

bluenine wrote:Milan spent the most money?? I don't think so, infact Milan probably earned more money from transfers than they spent last season....

ads_afc wrote:You've also spent the most money though: I also dont think that when you've won the CL you've actually been the best in Europe.

Especially in Europe, you are overly reliant on Kaka.