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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:33 pm

    & no I'm not posting this because we scored 5 at the weekend. Very Happy
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    Post by Luis Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:34 pm

    Impossible to predict
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:35 pm

    No idea, one of Chelsea, Man U, and Arsenal(obviously). Your guess is as good as mine. confused
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    Post by Cesc Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:35 pm

    Man Utd will score the most goals in the League this season.

    Its all about who gets the most points though Wink
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:35 pm

    luisgarciahedrinkssangria wrote:Impossible to predict

    You can at least try though Exclamation

    Which team has the capabilty to score the most goals.

    Arsenal - Henry, Van Persie etc

    Man United - Rooney, Saha, Ronaldo etc

    Chelsea - Sheva, Drogba, Lampard etc
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    Post by L r d Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:36 pm

    One of the big 4, obviously. Whoever wins the title... so...Liverpool. Cool

    Edit: cocked that up.


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    Post by Luis Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:37 pm

    I'd go for Chelsea or Man u, i think they both have the greater strike force currently
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:53 pm

    What were the goal tallies for last season?

    Quick overview (unbiased):
    Chelsea have the most goal scoring potential (& opportunity)
    Liverpool significantly improved their goal scoring abilities (Kuijt & Bellamy)
    Arsenal have stayed roughly the same, in scoring potential (possibly improving only slightly with youngsters developing and Rosicky in)
    ManU will do good to match last year's effort without Ruud.

    Without knowing the tallies I'd say Chelsea, with Liverpool as runner's up.

    But who can find/post the tallies?
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    Post by L r d Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:54 pm

    I think Arsenal have lost goal threat if anything. Pires always scored 10+ a season, for example. Rosicky isn't prolific at present.

    Though obviously, their youngsters will improve.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:56 pm

    Team P W D L F A GD Pts Pts
    1 Chelsea 38 29 4 5 72 22 50 91 2.4
    2 Manchester United 38 25 8 5 72 34 38 83 2.2
    3 Liverpool 38 25 7 6 57 25 32 82 2.2
    4 Arsenal 38 20 7 11 68 31 37 67 1.8
    5 Tottenham Hotspur 38 18 11 9 53 38 15 65 1.7
    6 Blackburn Rovers 38 19 6 13 51 42 9 63 1.7
    7 Newcastle United 38 17 7 14 47 42 5 58 1.5
    8 Bolton Wanderers 38 15 11 12 49 41 8 56 1.5
    9 West Ham United 38 16 7 15 52 55 -3 55 1.4
    10 Wigan Athletic 38 15 6 17 45 52 -7 51 1.3
    11 Everton 38 14 8 16 34 49 -15 50 1.3
    12 Fulham 38 14 6 18 48 58 -10 48 1.3
    13 Charlton Athletic 38 13 8 17 41 55 -14 47 1.2
    14 Middlesboro 38 12 9 17 48 58 -10 45 1.2
    15 Manchester City 38 13 4 21 43 48 -5 43 1.1
    16 Aston Villa 38 10 12 16 42 55 -13 42 1.1
    17 Portsmouth 38 10 8 20 37 62 -25 38 1.0
    18 Birmingham 38 8 10 20 28 50 -22 34 0.9
    19 West Bromwich Albion 38 7 9 22 31 58 -27 30 0.8
    20 Sunderland 38 3 6 29 26 69 -43 15 0.4



    So -

    Chelsea - 72
    Man United - 72
    Liverpool - 57
    Arsenal - 68
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    Post by Hardrada Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:56 pm

    Distinguished Dutchman wrote:What were the goal tallies for last season?

    ManU and Chelsea joint top on 72 goals scored I think.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:57 pm

    Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:58 pm

    Obispo wrote:I think Arsenal have lost goal threat if anything. Pires always scored 10+ a season, for example. Rosicky isn't prolific at present.

    Though obviously, their youngsters will improve.
    Yes, and Arsene still won't play RVP. Rolling Eyes

    I just read that he preferred to start with a 60% Henry (Hnery's own words!) than an on-fire 100% RVP. Doh

    Its not that I think Arsene doesn't rate RVP, but he's over reliant on Henry. Says it all.
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    Post by L r d Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:00 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).

    That's why alot of us like Crouch though, no one seems to get that. He isn't a great striker, but even if he doesn't get 10-15 assists, he plays a key part in alot of our goals, especially away from home. Defenders are automatically drawn to him and it leaves space for other people.
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:05 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).
    Could, but will it?

    Saha will get crocked during the season, Rooney's already suspended for three games, and Ronaldo... he'll do good to score 9 goals IMO.

    Where are the goals going to come from then? That was your problem last year as well. Scholes is a shadow of a player he wasboth on the pitch and in goal scoring, and Giggs and Park are the only ones you could rely on. I'm not even sure Park scored last year, but the midfield of Fletcher, O'shea, Richardson and Smith will do good to score one a piece.

    Do you remember that for the first 12 games or so, only Ruud and Rooney scored!?

    If you want any chance of reaching 72 goals, let alone exceed it, Ronaldo wil have to step significantly this year. Who else will?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:06 pm

    Obispo wrote:Fatality!

    hahahahahahahahahaHAHAHahaahAHAHAHAHAahahahahahahahah!

    lol!
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:09 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).

    That's why alot of us like Crouch though, no one seems to get that. He isn't a great striker, but even if he doesn't get 10-15 assists, he plays a key part in alot of our goals, especially away from home. Defenders are automatically drawn to him and it leaves space for other people.
    Yes, but he's also a reason for 1-0 wins.

    There's no way Liverpool won't exceed 57 goals this year. Last year pool went through a pad patch of draws where no-one could score. That won't happen this year. You have Gerrard you can rely on (amongst others) and now you have a proper strike force, Kuijt who can also grind out results for you if must, and Crouch as a Plan B.

    If you fail to reach 57 goals I'll eat my shoe.
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    Post by COTR Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:09 pm

    @ DD.. i can see ronaldo getting more purely because with the addition of carrick and maybe hargreaves united will be a better team and will have more opportunites higher up the pitch because of it... i also think it's time for ronaldo to come of age.. i think he'll get around 13-18 this year... united score plenty against the weak teams... it's whether they can score against the big teams this year that will decide if they score more than chelsea... chelsea do it regularly so they will have to improve as will arsenal and liverpool to have a chance of outscoring chelsea IMO
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    Post by L r d Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:11 pm

    Distinguished Dutchman wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).

    That's why alot of us like Crouch though, no one seems to get that. He isn't a great striker, but even if he doesn't get 10-15 assists, he plays a key part in alot of our goals, especially away from home. Defenders are automatically drawn to him and it leaves space for other people.
    Yes, but he's also a reason for 1-0 wins.

    There's no way Liverpool won't exceed 57 goals this year. Last year pool went through a pad patch of draws where no-one could score. That won't happen this year. You have Gerrard you can rely on (amongst others) and now you have a proper strike force, Kuijt who can also grind out results for you if must, and Crouch as a Plan B.

    If you fail to reach 57 goals I'll eat my shoe.

    Agreed completely.

    And, if we don't exceed that, I'll cry like John Terry at a champions league semi-final Wink
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:17 pm

    Distinguished Dutchman wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Also DD you won't like this but I think our goalscoring could improve with out Ruud.

    Less chance of a 25 goal a season striker but more people chipping in (Rooney, Scholes, Ronaldo, Saha etc).
    Could, but will it?

    Saha will get crocked during the season, Rooney's already suspended for three games, and Ronaldo... he'll do good to score 9 goals IMO.

    Where are the goals going to come from then? That was your problem last year as well. Scholes is a shadow of a player he wasboth on the pitch and in goal scoring, and Giggs and Park are the only ones you could rely on. I'm not even sure Park scored last year, but the midfield of Fletcher, O'shea, Richardson and Smith will do good to score one a piece.

    Do you remember that for the first 12 games or so, only Ruud and Rooney scored!?

    If you want any chance of reaching 72 goals, let alone exceed it, Ronaldo wil have to step significantly this year. Who else will?

    Its your view of it.

    Saha has been fit for nearly 10 months now with no problems, yes he may pick up knocks (he's always got stuck in) but there is no reason why he should miss long spells.

    Scholes had an awful first couple of months last season but as soon as he hit November last season his form picked up 10 fold and he got 3 in 8 games before his eye incident. If his performances in pre season and yesterday are anything to go by I think he'll be very influential this season and will get goals as well.

    Ronaldo will score alot this season imo. Up to 15 in all competitions, 8 - 10 in the league. Even more if he is given penalties. He's been much better since the turn of last year.

    Rooney will miss 3 games yes, still another 34 games of the season left though.
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    Post by S4P Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:37 pm

    Like obi, I think Arsenal will probably score less this season (don't forget they did also win 1 game 7-0 last season too, which boosted their tally!), because Pires was always so reliable. Ljunberg looks a little out-of-sorts lately and I can't see him scoring as many this season.

    Adebayor might score a few, but he isn't prolific.

    I think it'll be between us and Man Utd. For us, I'm sure all 3 of Lampard, Ballack and Drogba will get somewhere between 10-15 (Lampard and Drogba possibly 15-20) and once Sheva gets a run going, I'm sure he'll get around 25-30 goals this season
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:40 pm

    I forgot about Ballack. Doh

    So its a straight shoot out between Lampard, Ballack, Sheva & Drogba against Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha.

    You'd certainly have the edge even more so with Robben chipping in.
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:42 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:I forgot about Ballack. Doh

    So its a straight shoot out between Lampard, Ballack, Sheva & Drogba against Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney and Saha.

    You'd certainly have the edge even more so with Robben chipping in.
    Kalou will also chip in at least 5 goals this season
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:44 pm

    I reckon United will do it this year if yesterday is how they plan on playing. If the form dips it'll be Chelsea I imagine.


    We were the 9th highest scorers last season apparently, I was happy with that Very Happy
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    Post by S4P Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:48 pm

    @ DD

    All the midfield will score goals (with the exception of Makelele/Diarra).

    Joe Cole and Robben will score between 5-10.

    Kalou will get a similar sort of number.

    SWP will hopefully get around 3-5 too.

    I was just referring to the players that will get 10+

    (Oh and by the way, John Terry will score between 5-8 Premiership goals this season too!)

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