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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:12 am

    A lot of names are being thrown around, now that Lippi has turned it down. Who do you think will end up as the coach among these names, and who do you think will do the best??
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:16 am

    I think its silly that they are even considering Ranieri when there are others in the fray who have actually won something big... Ranieri is good for rebuilding a side, I'll give him that, he is awesome in winning promotion battles, crisis management, etc. But if you want to win Serie A, then he is a terrible choice.

    I reckon the Juve management are thinking of starting with Ranieri, and if in 5 months he has not proven himself, then they would sack him and get Lippi.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:34 am

    Capello depends a lot on Madrid - if thy win la liga he may stay there, if not I see him as a prime candidate
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    Post by robert Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:36 am

    Don't Madrid have a pre-contract with Schuster? Shouldn't that make Capello prime candidate #1
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    Post by Tarun Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:17 am

    I believe that Juve are lining up Ranieri & he looks the most likely to accept amongst the choices listed.
    The idea is to re-build a squad first & then achieve a top 4 finish & Ranieri would be a capable candidate for both these tasks
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:42 am

    Even for those tasks, Sven would be so much better.

    Trap is past it, so while I hope Juve sign him, I doubt the Juve management are so foolish.

    Capello is still with Real.

    Ranieri may be good enough for a top 4 spot, but can at best be a stop gap solution till Lippi is ready to come back.... if Juve appoint Ranieri, then you can be certain that Lippi will be at the helm in 2008-09.

    TarunDang wrote:I believe that Juve are lining up Ranieri & he looks the most likely to accept amongst the choices listed.
    The idea is to re-build a squad first & then achieve a top 4 finish & Ranieri would be a capable candidate for both these tasks
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    Post by Tarun Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:48 pm

    And maybe that's why as an assurance, Ranieri is looking for a 2 year deal that the Juventus management is reluctant to agree to.

    Lippi back at Juve would be fantastic
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:13 pm

    I bet thats the only thing holding this up right now... Ranieri must be asking for a 3 years deal, while Juve must be offering a 1 season deal with the option of extension!

    TarunDang wrote:And maybe that's why as an assurance, Ranieri is looking for a 2 year deal that the Juventus management is reluctant to agree to.

    Lippi back at Juve would be fantastic
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    Post by EMP Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:45 pm

    Radio 5 Live reported that Claudio Ranieri has been appointed as Juventus' coach
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    Post by Murray Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:50 pm

    Ranieri appointed Juventus coach


    Italian side Juventus have appointed former Chelsea manager Claudio Ranieri as their new coach.

    Ranieri, 56, who resigned as Parma coach last week, had been linked with the vacant Manchester City job.

    Ranieri took over the struggling Parma side in February and guided them to safety, with a 12th-place finish.

    Juve were demoted last summer and began the season on minus nine points after being found guilty of match-fixing, but won promotion under Didier Deschamps.

    Deschamps, who won the Champions League with Juventus as a player in 1996, took charge of the Turin side last summer following their demotion to Serie B.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:07 pm

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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:11 pm

    Why did they fire Deschamps??
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:14 pm

    They didn't.... he quit (apparently coz Juve board were so obviously courting Lippi)

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:Why did they fire Deschamps??
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    Post by Bashmachkin Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:42 pm

    This is a surprising appointment, just because, at least in England, I get the impression Ranieri is somewhat of a comedy figure, who is respected, but more because hes likeable than because hes considered a top class coach. All the tinkerman stuff definitely hurt him. I dont know what his reputation is like in Italy, but, like I say, it makes the choice a little surprising, as well as the emphasis Juventus have put on him being a man all the senior players can respect, who will demand authority. However, I do think he made Chelsea a really top class team before Abramovich came with all the money - they played good football, and moreover were, from what I recall, really well organised. I remember watching them at St James' Park just before the season ended and Abramovich arrived, and I thought they were probably the best team Id seen that season. He also made some good buys and helped a few players develop. I think its quite interesting.
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    Post by Luis Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:42 pm

    I don't think Ranieri was given enough time at Chelsea with the new investment personally
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    Post by fcb Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:46 pm

    Apparently what really convinced Juve was their best players like Buffon liked Ranieri and said they would like him to be appointed.
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:57 pm

    The most important thing is that whoever is appointed should be someone who is going to want to buy Cannavaro and Emerson back.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:16 pm

    Jaime wrote:The most important thing is that whoever is appointed should be someone who is going to want to buy Cannavaro and Emerson back.

    I thought Canna was improving?
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:16 pm

    He has a good media friendly image, just like in England... and he is slightly more respected, coz of what he achieved at Cagliari, Napoli, Fiorentina and Valencia... but while making a team go from Serie C1 to Serie A in 2 seasons is a great achievement, its not the same as winning the scudetto... he is someone who can make an average team win the Coppa, but is he someone who can make a top team win the scudetto??? Its never really been answered....

    Once thing in his favour - he is considered to know how to rebuild a team for teh future... his work and players at Valencia and Chelsea brought dividends even after he left...

    Bashmachkin wrote:This is a surprising appointment, just because, at least in England, I get the impression Ranieri is somewhat of a comedy figure, who is respected, but more because hes likeable than because hes considered a top class coach. All the tinkerman stuff definitely hurt him. I dont know what his reputation is like in Italy, but, like I say, it makes the choice a little surprising, as well as the emphasis Juventus have put on him being a man all the senior players can respect, who will demand authority. However, I do think he made Chelsea a really top class team before Abramovich came with all the money - they played good football, and moreover were, from what I recall, really well organised. I remember watching them at St James' Park just before the season ended and Abramovich arrived, and I thought they were probably the best team Id seen that season. He also made some good buys and helped a few players develop. I think its quite interesting.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:20 pm

    Capello will not let them go.... maybe he will sell Robinho Wink

    Jaime wrote:The most important thing is that whoever is appointed should be someone who is going to want to buy Cannavaro and Emerson back.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:28 pm

    BBC confirm it's Ranieri:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6719901.stm
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:35 pm

    bluenine wrote:Capello will not let them go.... maybe he will sell Robinho Wink

    Jaime wrote:The most important thing is that whoever is appointed should be someone who is going to want to buy Cannavaro and Emerson back.
    who said anything about capello:D . serious that i want cannavaro to stay since he is finally improving and in top form i dont consider anyone to be better and ramos should learn. but juve can get emerson back if they want.it will be exciting to see what players ranieri brings in.
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    Post by EMP Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:05 am

    bluenine wrote:He has a good media friendly image, just like in England... and he is slightly more respected, coz of what he achieved at Cagliari, Napoli, Fiorentina and Valencia... but while making a team go from Serie C1 to Serie A in 2 seasons is a great achievement, its not the same as winning the scudetto... he is someone who can make an average team win the Coppa, but is he someone who can make a top team win the scudetto??? Its never really been answered....

    Once thing in his favour - he is considered to know how to rebuild a team for teh future... his work and players at Valencia and Chelsea brought dividends even after he left...

    Bashmachkin wrote:This is a surprising appointment, just because, at least in England, I get the impression Ranieri is somewhat of a comedy figure, who is respected, but more because hes likeable than because hes considered a top class coach. All the tinkerman stuff definitely hurt him. I dont know what his reputation is like in Italy, but, like I say, it makes the choice a little surprising, as well as the emphasis Juventus have put on him being a man all the senior players can respect, who will demand authority. However, I do think he made Chelsea a really top class team before Abramovich came with all the money - they played good football, and moreover were, from what I recall, really well organised. I remember watching them at St James' Park just before the season ended and Abramovich arrived, and I thought they were probably the best team Id seen that season. He also made some good buys and helped a few players develop. I think its quite interesting.

    First time yes, but second stint was a complete disaster. No way does he deserve credit for building the current Valencia team.
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    Post by bluenine Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:44 am

    I was refering to the first stint... I think a lot of Cuper's success at Valencia was coz of Ranieri's shrewd staffing!

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    bluenine wrote:He has a good media friendly image, just like in England... and he is slightly more respected, coz of what he achieved at Cagliari, Napoli, Fiorentina and Valencia... but while making a team go from Serie C1 to Serie A in 2 seasons is a great achievement, its not the same as winning the scudetto... he is someone who can make an average team win the Coppa, but is he someone who can make a top team win the scudetto??? Its never really been answered....

    Once thing in his favour - he is considered to know how to rebuild a team for teh future... his work and players at Valencia and Chelsea brought dividends even after he left...

    Bashmachkin wrote:This is a surprising appointment, just because, at least in England, I get the impression Ranieri is somewhat of a comedy figure, who is respected, but more because hes likeable than because hes considered a top class coach. All the tinkerman stuff definitely hurt him. I dont know what his reputation is like in Italy, but, like I say, it makes the choice a little surprising, as well as the emphasis Juventus have put on him being a man all the senior players can respect, who will demand authority. However, I do think he made Chelsea a really top class team before Abramovich came with all the money - they played good football, and moreover were, from what I recall, really well organised. I remember watching them at St James' Park just before the season ended and Abramovich arrived, and I thought they were probably the best team Id seen that season. He also made some good buys and helped a few players develop. I think its quite interesting.

    First time yes, but second stint was a complete disaster. No way does he deserve credit for building the current Valencia team.
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    Post by bluenine Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:46 am

    I am pretty certain you are selling Emerson to Milan Sad

    That will be such a disaster, coz I am certain that the Puma will be back to his best the moment he lands up in Milan.... Ambrosini is going to be out of a job very soon...

    Yeah, sell him to Juventus... anyone but Milan, please!! Thats why I hope Capello stays at Real... he might keep the Puma.

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    bluenine wrote:Capello will not let them go.... maybe he will sell Robinho Wink

    Jaime wrote:The most important thing is that whoever is appointed should be someone who is going to want to buy Cannavaro and Emerson back.
    who said anything about capello:D . serious that i want cannavaro to stay since he is finally improving and in top form i dont consider anyone to be better and ramos should learn. but juve can get emerson back if they want.it will be exciting to see what players ranieri brings in.
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    Post by EMP Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:54 am

    bluenine wrote:I was refering to the first stint... I think a lot of Cuper's success at Valencia was coz of Ranieri's shrewd staffing!
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    bluenine wrote:He has a good media friendly image, just like in England... and he is slightly more respected, coz of what he achieved at Cagliari, Napoli, Fiorentina and Valencia... but while making a team go from Serie C1 to Serie A in 2 seasons is a great achievement, its not the same as winning the scudetto... he is someone who can make an average team win the Coppa, but is he someone who can make a top team win the scudetto??? Its never really been answered....

    Once thing in his favour - he is considered to know how to rebuild a team for teh future... his work and players at Valencia and Chelsea brought dividends even after he left...

    Bashmachkin wrote:This is a surprising appointment, just because, at least in England, I get the impression Ranieri is somewhat of a comedy figure, who is respected, but more because hes likeable than because hes considered a top class coach. All the tinkerman stuff definitely hurt him. I dont know what his reputation is like in Italy, but, like I say, it makes the choice a little surprising, as well as the emphasis Juventus have put on him being a man all the senior players can respect, who will demand authority. However, I do think he made Chelsea a really top class team before Abramovich came with all the money - they played good football, and moreover were, from what I recall, really well organised. I remember watching them at St James' Park just before the season ended and Abramovich arrived, and I thought they were probably the best team Id seen that season. He also made some good buys and helped a few players develop. I think its quite interesting.

    First time yes, but second stint was a complete disaster. No way does he deserve credit for building the current Valencia team.

    Fair enough Bluenine. I can't argue with that. Wish he hadn't come back though. Disastrous for him and us. He should have waited for the right job and not rushed in with us and we should have waited. Pathetic attempt to pacify fans after ridiculous treatment of Benitez led to his departure without compensation Grr Grr

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