Slow XI vs Fast XI

Your task if you choose to accept it. Make a World XI of Slow Players and a World XI of Fast Players, then comment on which team you think is better.

e.g. of slow players:
Carragher, Ballack, Riquelme, Ibrahimovic...

e.g. of fast players:
Clichy, Essien, Messi, Henry, etc...

Slow thinking or Slow pace?

urm batman, Ibra isn't slow

I'm guessing we just ignore medium paced players?

Slow:

---------------Buffon-------------

Zanetti---Carragher--Chivu---?????

Beckham----Xavi---Pirlo------RVP

------------Ibrah---RVN----------

Fast:

--------------Casillas---------------

Sagnol----Ramos----Touré-----Lahm

Ronaldo---Gerrard---?????-----Kaka

-----------Eto'o-----Henry-------

Tweedle wrote:I'm guessing we just ignore medium paced players?

Slow:

---------------Buffon-------------

Zanetti---Carragher--Chivu---?????

Beckham----Xavi---Pirlo------RVP

------------Ibrah---RVN----------

Fast:

--------------Casillas---------------

Sagnol----Ramos----Touré-----Lahm

Ronaldo---Gerrard---?????-----Kaka

-----------Eto'o-----Henry-------

Kaka is not that quick though. He has some good bursts of acceleration, but he's not that fast.

Also, I would definitely put Cicinho ahead of Sagnol. That guy is lightning fast.

Fast XI:

--------------- Casillas ---------------

Cicinho - Toure - Cordoba - Clichy

--------- Essien --- Gerrard ---------

Ronaldo ------ Messi ------- Robben

---------------- Henry -----------------

RVP- Ibra slow?

Are we talking about overall speed?

also david odonker amazingly fast amazingly $h!t tho

Djibril Cisse is faster than Henry wasn't he.

Crouching Punty wrote:RVP- Ibra slow?

Are we talking about overall speed?

These two players are known for their skill, i wouldn't call them fast players in terms of speed.

DD wrote:Djibril Cisse is faster than Henry wasn't he.

But he is not that good, thats why i picked Henry.

Torrente wrote:
Kaka is not that quick though. He has some good bursts of acceleration, but he's not that fast.

Also, I would definitely put Cicinho ahead of Sagnol. That guy is lightning fast.

Are we trying to look for purely THE fastest or slowest player in the position or the best player in that position that is reasonably fast or slow.

Sagnol is a fast right back that is far superior as a footballer to Cicinho, though probably not as fast.

I think we are not talking just about that kind of speed.
More of fast thinking, fast pacing, fast running with the ball, etc.
Henry - Eto'o upfront for sure.
Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, Diego in the middle.
Alves, Toure, Cordoba, Evra in the back.
Cassilas as a GK.

p.s. I hate slow football.

Torrente wrote:
Kaka is not that quick though. He has some good bursts of acceleration, but he's not that fast.

Kaka is very fast! If you remember the goal he scored in the Argentina-Brazil game, he went coast-to-coast from one side to another and Messi still couldnt catch him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6g_BRM7wg

And i've seen him score similar goals against Fenerbahce, Celtic etc


Also, i've seen Ibra-RVP in the 'slow 11', but i dont think they are that slow. Ibra, in particular, is deceptively fast for his size.

RVP is fast (maybe not Henry fast but still fast). Come on tweeds, you've watched him enough times to know that.

Rommedahl.

shazlx wrote:RVP is fast (maybe not Henry fast but still fast). Come on tweeds, you've watched him enough times to know that.

That's acceleration, but overall Kaka is not that fast. If he were to run a race with the likes of Cicinho and Shawn Wright Phillips he would be left behind by a lot. Also, Messi wasn't running very fast in that play. If anything, he was almost backing away from Kaka whenever he got close. Not saying Kaka isn't fast, just that he's nowhere near being one of the fastest players out there.

Torrente wrote:

shazlx wrote:RVP is fast (maybe not Henry fast but still fast). Come on tweeds, you've watched him enough times to know that.

That's acceleration, but overall Kaka is not that fast. If he were to run a race with the likes of Cicinho and Shawn Wright Phillips he would be left behind by a lot. Also, Messi wasn't running very fast in that play. If anything, he was almost backing away from Kaka whenever he got close. Not saying Kaka isn't fast, just that he's nowhere near being one of the fastest players out there.

What do you call fast, stamina? BTW, vs Celtic Kaka run 40 m in 5.3 seconds with the ball to score.

gone wrote:

Torrente wrote:

shazlx wrote:RVP is fast (maybe not Henry fast but still fast). Come on tweeds, you've watched him enough times to know that.

That's acceleration, but overall Kaka is not that fast. If he were to run a race with the likes of Cicinho and Shawn Wright Phillips he would be left behind by a lot. Also, Messi wasn't running very fast in that play. If anything, he was almost backing away from Kaka whenever he got close. Not saying Kaka isn't fast, just that he's nowhere near being one of the fastest players out there.

What do you call fast, stamina? BTW, vs Celtic Kaka run 40 m in 5.3 seconds with the ball to score.

He ran at a consistent fast pace for the play, which does require a lot of stamina. But the speed at which he was runnind wasn't THAT fast. Messi's goal against Getafe, now THAT is fast. He was sprinting past defenders like Speedy Gonzales. That's not the case with Kaka IMO.

Torrente wrote:

gone wrote:

Torrente wrote:

shazlx wrote:RVP is fast (maybe not Henry fast but still fast). Come on tweeds, you've watched him enough times to know that.

That's acceleration, but overall Kaka is not that fast. If he were to run a race with the likes of Cicinho and Shawn Wright Phillips he would be left behind by a lot. Also, Messi wasn't running very fast in that play. If anything, he was almost backing away from Kaka whenever he got close. Not saying Kaka isn't fast, just that he's nowhere near being one of the fastest players out there.

What do you call fast, stamina? BTW, vs Celtic Kaka run 40 m in 5.3 seconds with the ball to score.

He ran at a consistent fast pace for the play, which does require a lot of stamina. But the speed at which he was runnind wasn't THAT fast. Messi's goal against Getafe, now THAT is fast. He was sprinting past defenders like Speedy Gonzales. That's not the case with Kaka IMO.

The video that Red n Black put up is an example of Kakas pace. Messi cannot keep up with him,Kaka does have pace, but there are faster players out there

Im sorry... Zanetti? slow?

No way.

And Kaka is very quick btw - see the goal vs. Celtic

Ballack wrote:
The video that Red n Black put up is an example of Kakas pace. Messi cannot keep up with him,Kaka does have pace, but there are faster players out there

Situations like that video are a bit misleading because players with the ball, or an attacking player chasing it, will always be faster than the defender, because the attacker has adrenalin giving him a boost. Plus Kaka looks faster because he has the angle on Messi, who is slowed down by having to try and get alongside with Kaka.

But both of them are indeed very fast with the ball.

trez would be the striker for slow XI

If this is just about pure Pace:

------------------------------Ricardo
Cicinho---------------Cordoba----Toure------Cashley
Rohmmedal----------Zokora------Gerrard----Mark Gonzalez
------------------------Cissé---------Henry

gerrard

sissoko is faster than gerrard

Batman wrote:Your task if you choose to accept it. Make a World XI of Slow Players and a World XI of Fast Players, then comment on which team you think is better.

e.g. of slow players:
Carragher, Ballack, Riquelme, Ibrahimovic...

e.g. of fast players:
Clichy, Essien, Messi, Henry, etc...

Batman this was an actually interesting thread you started up

Cristiano_Robinho wrote:

Batman wrote:Your task if you choose to accept it. Make a World XI of Slow Players and a World XI of Fast Players, then comment on which team you think is better.

e.g. of slow players:
Carragher, Ballack, Riquelme, Ibrahimovic...

e.g. of fast players:
Clichy, Essien, Messi, Henry, etc...

Batman this was an actually interesting thread you started up

He always does. In terms of starting on-topic threads, Batman >>> All Other Posters.

Slow XI


..............................Buffon

....????????..........Helguera.......Thuram(Now)..........???????

....Beckham..............Emerson......Riquelme.........Pirlo

.............................RVN.........Ibra

( i don't like how thats got so many RM players )


Fast XI

......................................Casillas

.....Cicinho..........R.Bravo(lol).....Toure................R.Carlos

.......Ronaldo.........Kaka.........Essien..........Robben

.............................Eto'o.........Henry

Crouch deserves RVN's spot in the slow XI