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    Post by Luis Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:55 pm

    Confirmed by Madrid
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:59 pm

    nice.

    Very harsh I think, if clubs sacked managers for the quality of the football they produce then Mourinho and Benitiez wouldn't have lasted a season
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:01 pm

    Tweedle wrote:nice.

    Very harsh I think, if clubs sacked managers for the quality of the football they produce then Mourinho and Benitiez wouldn't have lasted a season

    Just like the curse of Del Bosque, beware the curse of Capello.
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    Post by Kroos Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:04 pm

    so come on Bernd schuster, make us proud Cool

    then i will become a little madrid fan, i never liked this club
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    Post by Calidad Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:04 pm

    As a neutral I'm sort of glad to be honest, but still can't help feel Capello was hard done by.

    But with players like Robinho, Higuain, Gago etc, they should be playing football that is easier on the eye.
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    Post by DD Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:05 pm

    Harsh
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:12 pm

    football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:14 pm

    I can see Real failing now for some years to come.

    The next clown they will get will last another season (I'm being generous) and then onto the next Bozo. Soon they will rival Palermo for hire and fire frequency.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:17 pm

    Schuster who is next in line , according to many

    Has done well at the last side he was at ...

    but has never won a trophy as a Club Manager , at any club he was at

    Gamble ?
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    Post by COTR Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:19 pm

    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    not a single liverpool fan would want benitez to be sacked

    he is pretty much a god after three seasons so talk all the bullshit you need to about style etc but it is completely detached from reality
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:21 pm

    Tweedle wrote:nice.

    Very harsh I think, if clubs sacked managers for the quality of the football they produce then Mourinho and Benitiez wouldn't have lasted a season

    We are not Chelsea nor Liverpool.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:26 pm

    Totally ridiculous, you win the title then sack the manager because supposedly the tactics weren't great.

    I always say a manager should be judged entirely on results
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:30 pm

    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    Oh the irony, because then - 1974-78 and 2006 apart, all German national managers and teams should have been sacked/banned for playing their "efficiency over style" brand of uninspiring football.

    What English clubs recognise, which foreign clubs like Madrid do not, is that if your club has not won a competition in awhile, the value of breaking that duck then allowing consistency to occur over a number of years is excellent business sense. you do not sack your CEO for beating all competition profits and becoming market leader after 4 years in the wilderness.

    Now that Liverpool and Chelsea have laid foundations of recent success, there will be justified pressure to begin to play with more style. Sacking a manager like capello who has brought Madrid their first trophy in 4 years is madness. Nay, its disgusting. I feel for the man
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:31 pm

    I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:33 pm

    Jaime wrote:I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...

    Did not you guys know what you were getting when you hired Capello?
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:33 pm

    Jaime wrote:I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...

    You are right, it's unsuprising- Madrid has long showed itself to be an appalling club when it comes to showing loyalty to its employees. I cannot believe Capello wasnt even given another year at the least. Pathetic
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:35 pm

    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    Jesus wept!

    Yesterday you complained about the exciting football in the bundesliga and the lack of shrewdness tactically and today you're raving on about the EXACT opposite!
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    Post by COTR Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:36 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    Jesus wept!

    Yesterday you complained about the exciting football in the bundesliga and the lack of shrewdness tactically and today you're raving on about the EXACT opposite!


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    Hitzfeld should be sacked
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:37 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Jaime wrote:I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...

    Did not you guys know what you were getting when you hired Capello?

    We knew exactly what we were getting. Capello did his job -- he put an end to the "galactico" attitudes and won us the title -- and now the board has decided it's time to move on.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:38 pm

    Johannes wrote:Schuster who is next in line , according to many

    Has done well at the last side he was at ...

    but has never won a trophy as a Club Manager , at any club he was at

    Gamble ?

    39 goals in 38 matches : more boring than Capello...
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:39 pm

    I am Mum-Ra wrote:
    Jaime wrote:I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...

    You are right, it's unsuprising- Madrid has long showed itself to be an appalling club when it comes to showing loyalty to its employees. I cannot believe Capello wasnt even given another year at the least. Pathetic

    Does nobody remember that the first time Capello won the title, HE left to go back to Milan leaving us high and dry. Where was his loyalty? People make so much of loyalty in football when there are really very few cases of it to begin with. This time the tables have turned and Capello is sacked.
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:39 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    Jesus wept!

    Yesterday you complained about the exciting football in the bundesliga and the lack of shrewdness tactically and today you're raving on about the EXACT opposite!

    Indeed, I can acutely remember how he was bemoaning Bayern's tactics Vs. Milan in the CL awhile back, spitting feathers that Magath's attempts to go at Milans were stupid and the man should be sacked immediately.

    Full of contradictions Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:39 pm

    Rasiak-9 wrote:Totally ridiculous, you win the title then sack the manager because supposedly the tactics weren't great.

    I always say a manager should be judged entirely on results

    Because of people like you we still have Van Basten as manager Sad
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:43 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    not a single liverpool fan would want benitez to be sacked

    he is pretty much a god after three seasons so talk all the bullshit you need to about style etc but it is completely detached from reality

    Liverpool and Chelsea will therefore NEVER become another Real

    what Pool fans don't get is that the BRAND of their club is HUGE

    you may be success starved but fans worldwide still think of you as one of the biggest brands in football

    every game under Benitez chips away from your reputation

    IMHO Liverpool are BY FAR the most iconic club in England

    yet I cannot watch them any more

    a few years back my favourite clubs in the EPL were Liverpool (because of its history and German players like Babbel, Hamann, Ziege...) and Wenger (flair)

    I love CL football but only watched 10 minutes of those Liverpool-Chelsea games

    they are unwatchable; the mystique has been destroyed 100%

    Liverpool are like the Marlon Brando of today: nothing but a name

    Chelsea are like Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton: lots of media talk , no substance

    and no: that's NOT HOT
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:43 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    I am Mum-Ra wrote:
    Jaime wrote:I can understand how this situation would seem appalling to most but it is simply the way it is at Real Madrid. Winning, in and of itself, is not enough. I'm sorry if not everyone can understand that...

    You are right, it's unsuprising- Madrid has long showed itself to be an appalling club when it comes to showing loyalty to its employees. I cannot believe Capello wasnt even given another year at the least. Pathetic

    Does nobody remember that the first time Capello won the title, HE left to go back to Milan leaving us high and dry. Where was his loyalty? People make so much of loyalty in football when there are really very few cases of it to begin with. This time the tables have turned and Capello is sacked.

    Well I must accept this is a good point, and quite possibly was a crucial factor in the decision this time around. Doesnt explain the horrendous treatment of Del Bosque for example though.

    You are of course correct- loyalty is a facet of football that is at a premium in today's football. Although there is no doubting that clubs in England take on a much more responsible approach to the subject with regards to its managers.

    I simply cannot comprehend it ever happening in England where a coach wins the title and gets sacked.

    Different mentality, and different cultural set up- the fans own the clubs like Madrid, so their satisfaction at the football being played is a bigger factor in these decisions
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:48 pm

    Darling wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Darling wrote:football as well as any other sport has become entertainment

    over 80.000 fans pay good money to watch some of the best players in the world

    the club's whole existence is based on its image of glamour, flair and success

    Capello failed to understand the first two and rightly had to go

    by the same token Benitez and Mourinho have no right to manage a BIG, RICH club and should be sacked immediately

    both would be good at small clubs which they can lead higher than expected

    not a single liverpool fan would want benitez to be sacked

    he is pretty much a god after three seasons so talk all the bullshit you need to about style etc but it is completely detached from reality

    Liverpool and Chelsea will therefore NEVER become another Real

    what Pool fans don't get is that the BRAND of their club is HUGE

    you may be success starved but fans worldwide still think of you as one of the biggest brands in football

    every game under Benitez chips away from your reputation

    IMHO Liverpool are BY FAR the most iconic club in England

    yet I cannot watch them any more

    a few years back my favourite clubs in the EPL were Liverpool (because of its history and German players like Babbel, Hamann, Ziege...) and Wenger (flair)

    I love CL football but only watched 10 minutes of those Liverpool-Chelsea games

    they are unwatchable; the mystique has been destroyed 100%

    Liverpool are like the Marlon Brando of today: nothing but a name

    Chelsea are like Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton: lots of media talk , no substance

    and no: that's NOT HOT

    Where does this leave Bayern Munich?like Tony Blair- once a big powerful name, but overnight has become an aged, weary, minor pawn in the 2nd tier of European importance
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    Post by COTR Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:54 pm

    God

    Liverpool success starved

    I've heard it all now




    otto your problem is you base your theory on a few chelsea - liverpool games


    liverpool fans base their theory on the hundreds of other games we have watched over the past three seasons

    bentiez has built an amazing squad from a total car crash that houllier left him with




    hitzfeld is the best manager in the world

    one week later

    Sack hitzfeld


    you can certainly never be accused of being fickle otto
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:54 pm

    Bayern Munich would be the Jeff Bridges of the football world:

    a character actor in the body of a leading man who cannot "open" a film abroad

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    Post by fcb Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:23 pm

    Don't forget the nature of this title that Capello won. On head-to-head. ie. barely. Against a Barcelona side with Etoo and Messi injured, many others unfit, always injured, and unmotivated. Valencia with the worst injury crisis in Europe. It's not as if Capello came in, and Madrid were dominant from the first game of the season.

    Would it happen again next year if they kept up this style and squad? Probably not.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:24 pm

    Let me make one thing clear: I abhor Capello. One of my posts about the man touches on all the issues mentioned here. To quote from it: "Calderon and Capello are sacks of $h!t, and they deserve each other".

    But from a Real persepective (leaving aside issues of loyalty), this move defies belief. The manager just had a successful season, and to then sack him borders on the absurd (notwithstanding his brand of football).

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