"Grinding out"

The ability to ensure you don't concede the fluke goal when in a title race.

Champions League qualifiers aren't included, nor are Carling Cup ties or the Community Shield match.

0-0

Manchester United x1
Arsenal x2
Chelsea x4
Liverpool x4

1-0

Manchester United x8
Arsenal x4
Chelsea x4
Liverpool x1

0-1

Manchester United x2
Arsenal x0
Chelsea x1
Liverpool x2

1-1

Manchester United x2
Arsenal x3
Chelsea x3
Liverpool x4

Table

Manchester United (13) 27 2.08
Arsenal(9) 17 1.89
Chelsea (12) 19 1.58
Liverpool (11) 11 1


I wouldn't mind knowing Ferguson's magic touch when it comes to these type of results. No surprise to see Liverpool come bottom.

Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

1-0

Manchester United x8
Arsenal x4
Chelsea x4
Liverpool x1

Thats the important clean sheets.

Dwarf wrote:
I wouldn't mind knowing Ferguson's magic touch when it comes to these type of results.

Vidic & Rio

Glenn Hysén wrote:Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

Where to start though?

Booing your team off.

Gerrard assisting another goal to the opposition.

4-5-1 at home against Wigan?!

Rafa on his way out.

Would include out of the title race but thats old news.

Parks lives wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

Where to start though?

Booing your team off.

Gerrard assisting another goal to the opposition.

4-5-1 at home against Wigan?!

Rafa on his way out.

Would include out of the title race but thats old news.

why don't you manufacture a post where I said none of this would happen You could totally pwn me.

Glenn Hysén wrote:Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

He is a pool fan if im not mistaken

L r d wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

He is a pool fan if im not mistaken

Inverted comma's were far too subtle for a depressed Hysen.

Dwarf wrote:

L r d wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:Jesus talk about kicking someone when they're down. We've got it bad enough with Lrd and Spanky frantically searching for an optimistic comment from a Liverpool fan to bump. Now the random neutrals are getting stuck in.

He is a pool fan if im not mistaken

Inverted comma's were far too subtle for a depressed Hysen.

who are you?

Controversy?

2008: De Guzman's year wrote:

Dwarf wrote:
I wouldn't mind knowing Ferguson's magic touch when it comes to these type of results.

Vidic & Rio

Probably explains why Liverpool are so awful with these type of results even if it doesn't given the whole picture. Make's Carragher a total waste of space, which doesn't bode well for the future anyway.

borocooper wrote:Controversy?

Yep.

controversial.

Man Utd practise how to grind regularly...ask Johnny Evans

Its one of the things I quite funny with the Pool fans. They keep celebrating their great defensive record and clean sheets. What they fail to see is that they are a defensive team with good defenders (not counting Riise) rather than a balanced team with great defenders. They may concede less goals overall but when they need to go out and score, their defense is more likely to concede than ManU's in the same situation.

Dwarf wrote:The ability to ensure you don't concede the fluke goal when in a title race.

Champions League qualifiers aren't included, nor are Carling Cup ties or the Community Shield match.


1-0

Manchester United x8
Man City x5
Arsenal x4
Chelsea x4
Liverpool x1


Table

Manchester United (13) 27 2.08
Arsenal(9) 17 1.89
Chelsea (12) 19 1.58
Liverpool (11) 11 1


I wouldn't mind knowing Ferguson's magic touch when it comes to these type of results. No surprise to see Liverpool come bottom.

We havnt done too bad.

The actual topic though is complete rubbish, as Arsenal have been involved in fewer of these matches than United.

What that shows, is that altho we may be marginally worse in situations like these, we end up in them less often, which is better.

Well it's not really accurate just going by these numbers...some of those 1-0's may have been pure luck because the other team couldn't finish? Or maybe the 1-0 was not a result ground out, but a comfortable match that could easily have been 5-0 on another day?

The point of the thread is true though, Liverpool just haven't done what they needed to. Also important to consider the two bad results against Marseille and Besiktas in the CL that also affected league results.