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    Glen Johnson vs Yuri Zhirkov

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    Which player is the better signing?

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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:58 pm

    Both Chelsea and Liverpool were linked to these two players in the summer. Chelsea ended up signing Zhirkov for around £18m and Liverpool signed Johnson for £17.5m.

    Batman wants to know which club in your opinion made the better signing?

    Maybe you think Liverpool should have signed Yuri Zhirkov instead of Johnson?
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:00 pm

    Biggrin
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    Post by debaser Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:13 pm

    Due to Rafanomics and the Crouch transfer, Johnson only actually cost £8.50 and 4 million Nectar points.

    Ergo, he was the better deal.
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    Post by TM Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:19 pm

    So we're comparing a RB to a Left sided Midfielder? Biggrin
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:22 pm

    TM wrote:So we're comparing a RB to a Left sided Midfielder? Biggrin

    Zhirkov can play LB and LW.
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:23 pm

    TM wrote:So we're comparing a RB to a Left sided Midfielder? Biggrin

    It's just another day in Batland
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    Post by TM Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:29 pm

    Batman wrote:
    TM wrote:So we're comparing a RB to a Left sided Midfielder? Biggrin

    Zhirkov can play LB and LW.

    Still not a RB is he?
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:46 pm

    TM wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    TM wrote:So we're comparing a RB to a Left sided Midfielder? Biggrin

    Zhirkov can play LB and LW.

    Still not a RB is he?

    it seems you don't understand the question.

    I am not asking who is the better player but who is the better signing because both players cost around the same amount and both clubs wanted the two players.

    Liverpool have signed Johnson and now will probably sell Arbeloa and keep Dossena.

    But would they have been stronger by signing Zhirkov and keeping Arbeloa?

    Do you think

    Zhirkov > Aurélio, Dossena
    Zhirkov > Riera, Babel

    ?

    If not the Johnson is the best signing for Liverpool.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:48 pm

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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:49 pm

    What do you think Bat man?
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    Post by TM Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:49 pm

    Ooohhh!!! Why didn't you say in the first place?!

    Zhirkov will most likely play LM; so...

    Zhirkov > Riera, Babel

    However!

    Glenn Johnson > Gary Neville and Wes Brown, Boswinga, P.Ferriera


    So I'd say Draw ok
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:50 pm

    Batman we have already explained the other factors in Johnson's signature ie Crouch money resulting in us having a bigger transfer kitty left, CL regulations, Arbeloa only having a year left on his contract.

    Now signing a left midfielder from Russia for £18m cash is not going to solve any of those problems is it


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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:54 pm

    sometimes when it looks like you need a right back you actually need a left wing-back?
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:55 pm

    Karim Glennzema wrote:What do you think Bat man?

    Reina

    Arbeloa . . Škrtel . . Agger . . Zhirkov

    . Alonso . . Mascherano

    . Kuyt . . . . Gerrard . . . Benayoun

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    This team would win the league.
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:57 pm

    I'm interested to know if you have ever seen Zhirkov play football before Batman, or do you just think he has a nice name ?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:59 pm

    Batman wrote:
    Karim Glennzema wrote:What do you think Bat man?

    Reina

    Arbeloa . . Škrtel . . Agger . . Zhirkov

    . Alonso . . Mascherano

    . Kuyt . . . . Gerrard . . . Benayoun

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    This team would win the league.

    how many times have you seen Zhirkov play at left back?
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    Post by Fey Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:07 pm

    Well unlike everybody of you I have seen him play in reality a few months ago...and I expected something much better tbh. He got skinned by Wijnaldum, then again thats one of the most promising talents in Europe Biggrin
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:10 pm

    Batman has seen Yuri Zhirkov play for CSKA Moscow and Russia.

    For Chelsea he is going to be back up for A Cole and maybe start ahead of Malouda.
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:11 pm

    If Rafa doesn't win the league this season then we will all know i was right.
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    Post by Six Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:14 pm

    If our whole squad dies in a plane crash (god forbid) we will know why now. Thanks Batman.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:14 pm

    Very Happy

    why wasn't Antonio Valencia included in this debate?

    Glen Johnson > better than Rafael or Brown
    Yuri Zhirkov > Nani or Tosic
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:15 pm

    I think we have now reached the point where Batman has accepted this one has slipped away from him

    The stupid comments are now coming thick and fast
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:18 pm

    Karim Glennzema wrote:Very Happy

    why wasn't Antonio Valencia included in this debate?

    Glen Johnson > better than Rafael or Brown
    Yuri Zhirkov > Nani or Tosic

    When Brown was 100% match fit, Capello picked Brown ahead of Johnson as Englands no.1 RB.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:20 pm

    Capello picks Jenas ahead of Carrick

    Regardless, Johnson is clearly the better player and you haven't answered my question.
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:25 pm

    Karim Glennzema wrote:Capello picks Jenas ahead of Carrick

    Regardless, Johnson is clearly the better player and you haven't answered my question.

    defensively, Brown > Johnson

    when Man Utd won the League and Champions League, Brown was our no.1 RB

    What question?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:26 pm

    http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/05/31/Intl-Capello-on-Glen-Johnson-/gnid-55205/

    why wasn't Antonio Valencia included in this debate?

    The poll seems fairly conclusive, did someone overestimate the Zhirkov hype?
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    Post by Aristoskank Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:31 pm

    Time for a new poll.
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:33 pm

    Karim Glennzema wrote:http://www.setanta.com/uk/Articles/Football/2009/05/31/Intl-Capello-on-Glen-Johnson-/gnid-55205/

    why wasn't Antonio Valencia included in this debate?

    The poll seems fairly conclusive, did someone overestimate the Zhirkov hype?

    Because Chelsea were not interested in Valencia.

    Man Utd were not interested in Johnson or Zhirkov.

    Valencia can not play fullback.

    Fullback is a weak area in the liverpool team.

    Flops:
    Dossena
    Degan

    "Brown is not completely fit" cheers

    i win again
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    Post by COTR Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:36 pm

    Batman wrote:

    i win again

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    Yuri Zhirkov
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    This is not going as well as you expected is it Batman Biggrin
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    Post by Batman Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:37 pm

    Conspiracy Theorist wrote:
    Batman wrote:

    i win again

    Johnson
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    Yuri Zhirkov
    35% [ 7 ]


    This is not going as well as you expected is it Batman Biggrin

    this is just opinions, we will find out during the season who is right and wrong.

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