Todays Transfer Rumours

Parks lives wrote:Doesn't Berbatov play as a forward?

Why are people comparing his stats to Henry's?

The backlash has begun - envious gooners and lovers of Hard work

Plus - what were Henry's goals stats at Monaco & Juventus?

Doesn't Berbatov play as a forward?

Yep, your point being

Why are people comparing his stats to Henry's?

to make a fool out of T/S

T/S bring out Bergkamp's stats.

TeamSpirit wrote:

COTR wrote:00-01 6 - 0
01-02 24 - 7
02-03 24 - 4
03-04 32 - 16
04-05 32 - 20
05-06 34 - 21
06-07 33 - 12


Vrs


31- 17
35 - 17
33 - 24
37 - 24
37 - 30
32- 25
32 - 27
17 - 10

Pens included?

Are penalties not goals?

Parks lives wrote:T/S bring out Bergkamp's stats.

His record for Ajax and Holland will actually be pretty tough to beat.

This whole argument is stupid anyway, virtually every Arsenal fan on here is a big fan of Berbatov.

Kimbo wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:

COTR wrote:00-01 6 - 0
01-02 24 - 7
02-03 24 - 4
03-04 32 - 16
04-05 32 - 20
05-06 34 - 21
06-07 33 - 12


Vrs


31- 17
35 - 17
33 - 24
37 - 24
37 - 30
32- 25
32 - 27
17 - 10

Pens included?

Are penalties not goals?

The Media gave Henry those goals

Don't forget the small pitch.

ahh the bitterness...

Sheffield gunner wrote:

This whole argument is stupid anyway,

My point. If you just looked at Bergkamp's scoring stats for Arsenal they are not that great. From actually watching him play you know he was a seriously special player.

Roger Hunt wrote:Don't forget the small pitch.

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Tweedle wrote:ahh the bitterness...

A gooner (not the poster) started it. Typical.

Roger Hunt wrote:Don't forget the small pitch.

We shouldn't forget David Dein's shady influence at the FA making life easier for Arsenal and therefore for Henry to score.

It can't be a coincidence that the season Dein relinquished his power Henry struggled for form and goals!

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

That really is our money though, it's money generated through the club.

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

That really is our money though, it's money generated through the club.

You have a chairman who threw ridiculous amounts of money...there is no difference. It's Magnusson's club and he can spend what he wants. How typical of you to justify Newcastle's antics and yet everyone else is annoying

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

That really is our money though, it's money generated through the club.

You have a chairman who threw ridiculous amounts of money...there is no difference. It's Magnusson's club and he can spend what he wants. How typical of you to justify Newcastle's antics and yet everyone else is annoying

Ofcourse there's a difference Newcastle spent Newcastles money, generated through Newcastle United. West Ham are spending money generated from outside the club. How is there not a difference there?

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

That really is our money though, it's money generated through the club.

You have a chairman who threw ridiculous amounts of money...there is no difference. It's Magnusson's club and he can spend what he wants. How typical of you to justify Newcastle's antics and yet everyone else is annoying

Ofcourse there's a difference Newcastle spent Newcastles money, generated through Newcastle United. West Ham are spending money generated from outside the club. How is there not a difference there?

Why does it matter where it's generated? The fact is you have been hoping for a Newcastle takeover for ages and were going on about splashing the cash...yet you have the front to call others annoying

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Controversy wrote:CSKA London have been joined by Fimleikafélag Ham United it seems.

West Ham are looking to tempt Everton striker Andy Johnson away from Goodison in an £13m deal plus the promise of £90,000-a-week wages. (Daily Mail)

What's funny?

Because we want to spend money we have

"We" being your sugar daddy. I don't mind some initial investment from an owner, it's normal, but when they start throwing ridiculous money and wages around that the club can't afford - with no intentions to break even - then it becomes annoying.

1) Yes it is WE...he owns our club therefore it's WE...muppet
2)Like you can say anything...you have spent ridiculous money and wages for ages now, and yet do f@ck all...Owen,Boumsong etc...muppet

That really is our money though, it's money generated through the club.

You have a chairman who threw ridiculous amounts of money...there is no difference. It's Magnusson's club and he can spend what he wants. How typical of you to justify Newcastle's antics and yet everyone else is annoying

Ofcourse there's a difference Newcastle spent Newcastles money, generated through Newcastle United. West Ham are spending money generated from outside the club. How is there not a difference there?

Why does it matter where it's generated? The fact is you have been hoping for a Newcastle takeover for ages and were going on about splashing the cash...yet you have the front to call others annoying

Like i said initial investment is fine and normal in business, but when you start paying wages that the club can't afford and spending ridiculous amounts of money - with no intention to break even - then that isn't good for the game. I have no problem with clubs spending within their means, us, Everton, Villa have had some sensible investment, Spurs - i've no problem with what they've been spending. People will get annoyed with West Ham for the same reasons that people got annoyed with Chelsea.

Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

People got annoyed with Chelsea because they won the Prem.

People were quite happy with the Tinkerman throwing cash down the drain.

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Roger Hunt wrote:People got annoyed with Chelsea because they won the Prem.

People were quite happy with the Tinkerman throwing cash down the drain.

I wasn't, they took our place in the top 4.

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Spurs were takenover and started to splash the cash. They were taken over by ENIC before anyone else was...

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Spurs were takenover and started to splash the cash. They were taken over by ENIC before anyone else was...

Yes, initial investment, like what Villa are getting. They didn't go throwing silly wages around though and they had no intention of running the club at a loss.

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Spurs were takenover and started to splash the cash. They were taken over by ENIC before anyone else was...

Yes, initial investment, like what Villa are getting. They didn't go throwing silly wages around though and they had no intention of running the club at a loss.

Yet you have been doing this for ages and are in a fair bit of debt

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Spurs were takenover and started to splash the cash. They were taken over by ENIC before anyone else was...

Yes, initial investment, like what Villa are getting. They didn't go throwing silly wages around though and they had no intention of running the club at a loss.

Yet you have been doing this for ages and are in a fair bit of debt

From our stadium expansion yes. Freddy went over the top during the Souness era though and we made a loss, a big reason why i wanted him out.

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Spurs spent £11m on Rebrov and released him...Spurs spent £4m on Mido and hardly played him....Spurs spent £2m on Danny Murphy and don't play him...

We have bought one player so far...yet you accuse us of doing a Chelsea because of pure speculation. We aren't even in for Johnson anyway FFS.

It's not like we'll keep doing it anyway.

That's their money though, i just don't like seeing clubs run at a loss, they should be run properly.

Spurs were takenover and started to splash the cash. They were taken over by ENIC before anyone else was...

Yes, initial investment, like what Villa are getting. They didn't go throwing silly wages around though and they had no intention of running the club at a loss.

Yet you have been doing this for ages and are in a fair bit of debt

From our stadium expansion yes. Freddy went over the top during the Souness era though and we made a loss, a big reason why i wanted him out.

So then don't we deserve a chance to see what happens in the next few yeasr with the investment...before judging us in a similar way to Chelsea...

Tuesday's rumours:

Chelsea have entered the battle to sign Sevilla's Daniel Alves, who can play at full-back or on the right wing but who has long been a target of Liverpool. (The Sun)

Inter Milan have made an offer to swap Brazil striker Adriano for Chelsea's Andriy Shevchenko. (Daily Mirror)

Manchester United striker Alan Smith wants to stay at the club and fight for a first-team place, even though the Old Trafford outfit have started splashing out on new players and he is wanted by Tottenham. (The Sun)

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is ready to reward Smith for overcoming a career-threatening broken leg and dislocated ankle by opening talks on a new five-year deal. (Daily Star)

Sunderland are set to move for Celtic midfielder Thomas Gravesen but the Black Cats face competition from Reading. (Daily Star)

West Ham will offer Manchester City midfielder Joey Barton £1m more than Newcastle in a signing war this week. (Daily Mirror)

Portsmouth striker Lomana LuaLua, who has been linked to Espanyol, has dropped a hint that he could move to Spain. (Various)

Barcelona midfielder Xavi says he has "no doubts" Arsenal striker Thierry Henry will join the Spanish club this summer. (Daily Mirror)

Newcastle are closing in on Czech Republic defender David Rozehnal, who plays for Paris St Germain. (Daily Express)

West Ham midfielder Nigel Reo-Coker is closer to becoming an Aston Villa player after the clubs held talks over the weekend. (Daily Express)

Fulham have made a £2m bid for ex-Birmingham striker Walter Pandiani, who is now at Espanyol. (The Sun)

Arsenal want to sign Auxerre left-back Bakari Sagna. (Daily Mirror)

Bolton want to take Liverpool striker Djibril Cisse, who spent last season on loan at Marseille, on loan for next season. (The Sun)

Bolton will only let striker Nicolas Anelka join Manchester United if the Trotters land Cisse for less than Liverpool's £6m asking price or on loan. (Daily Mirror)

Fulham have told Southampton they won't be held to ransom after the London club had a £2.5m bid for Saints defender Chris Baird rejected. (Daily Star)

Middlesbrough have been told they must double their money from £1.3m if they want to land Levante winger Mustapha Riga. (Daily Star)

West Ham are set to move for Everton midfielder Tim Cahill - 24 hours after having a bid for Toffees striker Andrew Johnson rejected. (Daily Mirror)

Wolves want Southend striker Freddy Eastwood in a £1.5m deal but Molineux boss Mick McCarthy has warned Aston Villa and Everton off winger Michael Kightly. (The Sun)

West Brom midfielder Jason Koumas has claimed Aston Villa are interested in signing him but he will make no decision on his future for a fortnight. (Daily Mirror)

Leeds will cash in on striker David Healy, with Fulham, Watford and Sunderland tracking the Northern Ireland star. (Daily Mirror)

Derby boss Billy Davies has insisted he will not be rushed into making any signings by clubs hoping to make a quick buck. (Daily Star)

Leicester are set to sign MK Dons striker Izale McLeod and Gillingham winger Matt Jarvis. (Daily Express)

Sheffield Wednesday striker Steve MacLean could leave the club after failing to agree a new deal. (Daily Star)

Steven Gerrard has tipped his England team-mate Frank Lampard to hit back at his critics by "scoring a wonder goal in the next few games or putting in a wonderful performance". (The Sun)

Newcastle midfielder Kieron Dyer is being lined up to play at right-back in Wednesday's Euro 2008 qualifier against Estonia. (Various)

Estonia football chiefs have admitted that they have mixed feelings about the match against England because they respect their rivals, would love them to qualify and would not want manager Steve McClaren to get the sack. (Daily Express)

Former England manager Graham Taylor, talking in an interview with Sport magazine, has warned that his national team is in danger of suffering from the influx of foreign players in the Premiership like the Scotland team, who he believes have suffered from the same problem in the Scottish Premier League. (Various)

Former Chelsea boss Claudio Ranieri says Manchester City took too long in deciding if they wanted him as manager so he agreed to become Juventus coach. (The Sun)

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, who appeared at the launch of the Olympic logo for the 2012 Games, says he loves London so much he would even manage Crystal Palace. (Various)

Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has undergone knee surgery following a problem when on international duty with Norway and will not be fit until at least the start of next season. (Various)

Former Grimsby defender John McDermott and ex-Scarborough boss Neil Redfearn head the list to be Boston manager. (Daily Star)

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill says injury-hit defender Martin Laursen will be given a new deal - if he proves his fitness. (Daily Mail)

Newcastle manager Sam Allardyce wants to sit in the stands during the first half of games next season so he can shape his side's tactics but may have to trigger a directors' box reshuffle so women, children and guests do not hear him swearing. (Daily Mirror

I suggested that Dyer should play right back in the Brazil match thread. Its a very obvious decision to make, especially considering how poor and clumsy Carragher looked on Friday. And, though Im not sure what hed do if asked to play there for Newcastle, for England hes done it a few times and been quite threatening, and will help Beckham on the overlap. The idea of Estonia 'chiefs' mourning Englands demise is pretty funny.

If you want a radical, attacking formation how about

Gerrard--Terry--King--Bridge
---------Hargreaves
----Beckham----Lampard
-Dyer-----Crouch------Cole

Gerrard gives attacking width and we don't need the world's best RB anyway. Beckham can float (he will anyway). Dyer is better further forward, and he's a better dribbler than Gerrard.