Liverpool Vs United (MIDFIELD)

Obispo wrote:

Rez wrote:The 16 point difference would suggest united's over-relience on Ronaldo has paid dividens. Quite how we'll cope when he fucks off in the summer, I'm not sure.

And yet we won 2-0 last time we met without Ronaldo. But hey Liverpool have the best players best manager and best setup so yea no contest there.

S4P wrote:A United v Pool thread. Don't think we've had one of these on the board before.

Probably going to be alot more in the next week or so as well.

May need to start up a banter thread and keep it in there, even though it always goes further than banter.

forza_rossi wrote:
And yet we won 2-0 last time we met without Ronaldo.

Exception that proves the rule.

I'm bored of United-Liverpool threads anyways to be honest. We have bigger fish to fry this season. Our game against you next week is nothing but an unwelcome distraction.

Only player of Liverpool's midfield that we can use is Sissoko and this isnt a wind up or biased opinion.

Parks lives wrote:

S4P wrote:A United v Pool thread. Don't think we've had one of these on the board before.

Probably going to be alot more in the next week or so as well.

May need to start up a banter thread and keep it in there, even though it always goes further than banter.

Might as well just keep this thread for banter. Saves writing in 2 different threads.

United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

The 2-0 win back at Old Trafford means nothing - came at a time where our world cup stars were underperforming - in Gerrard's case he was playing ever since Istanbul non-stop. Hardly surprising Sissoko was our best player that day..

United had Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick - World cup flops and national team rejects who were on top form. Clever tactics by Fergie I'd say...

The Grim Reaper wrote:United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

L r d wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick ??

I'd rather have Arsenal's & Chelsea's thanks..

Grim Reaper wrote:

L r d wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick ??

I'd rather have Arsenal's & Chelsea's thanks..

So that is a midtable midfield? look at tottenham without carrick, scholes on form is one of the best player in the prem easily. and giggs the same. also park is a very useful player. man utd have won every game i think without ronaldo and he has missed at least 6 games

L r d wrote:

Grim Reaper wrote:

L r d wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick ??

I'd rather have Arsenal's & Chelsea's thanks..

So that is a midtable midfield? look at tottenham without carrick, scholes on form is one of the best player in the prem easily. and giggs the same. also park is a very useful player. man utd have won every game i think without ronaldo and he has missed at least 6 games

Well, if all their players return from injury etc, i'd have Newcastle's over your lot.

Grim Reaper wrote:

L r d wrote:

Grim Reaper wrote:

L r d wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:United midfield minus Ronaldo is below average - mid table standard I'd say

Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick ??

I'd rather have Arsenal's & Chelsea's thanks..

So that is a midtable midfield? look at tottenham without carrick, scholes on form is one of the best player in the prem easily. and giggs the same. also park is a very useful player. man utd have won every game i think without ronaldo and he has missed at least 6 games

Well, if all their players return from injury etc, i'd have Newcastle's over your lot.

Yeah but you are a complete idiot so it's not as if we listen to anything you ever say.

Like I care

Glory Hunter

Grim Reaper wrote:Like I care

Good to see you admit it at least. It's supposedly always the first step.

Long week...

Obispo wrote:Long week...

It will be full of shite wind ups similar to Grim Reapers, the match will then probably end up being shit and everyone will shut up again.

0-0

Barely any shots on target and one team will have a barely half decent shout for a penalty turned down. Everyone on here will argue about it then.


... By the way, Ronaldo dived. Gerrard's was a stonewall penalty though. Ref's a manc.

Man Utd midfield for next season, fingers crossed.

First team:
Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Back-up:
Park - Hargreaves - Bodmer - Quaresma*

In Case of Emergency:
Fletcher - O'Shea - Smith - Richardson

* or David Silva

Obispo wrote:


Gerrard's was a stonewall penalty though.

Yeah twice ,

And thank you Mr Reaper for your opinions.

Bat ,
I will take a midfielder , a winger and a striker.

We may get Makoun and Bodmer for the same price as Hargreaves (though Lille wont be too keen).

Batman wrote:Man Utd midfield for next season, fingers crossed.

First team:
Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Back-up:
Park - Hargreaves - Bodmer - Quaresma*

In Case of Emergency:
Fletcher - O'Shea - Smith - Richardson

* or David Silva

if you were to have those players at your disposal then i would have

Ronaldo - Hargreaves - Scholes - Quaresma

Owen Thomas wrote:

Obispo wrote:Long week...

It will be full of shite wind ups similar to Grim Reapers, the match will then probably end up being shit and everyone will shut up again.

You can ridicule my posts as much as you like - but theres no need to call me an idiot or to get personal.

Im the last person you wanna be calling that

Emmanuele Elboue wrote:

Batman wrote:Man Utd midfield for next season, fingers crossed.

First team:
Ronaldo - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs

Back-up:
Park - Hargreaves - Bodmer - Quaresma*

In Case of Emergency:
Fletcher - O'Shea - Smith - Richardson

* or David Silva

if you were to have those players at your disposal then i would have

Ronaldo - Hargreaves - Scholes - Quaresma

Indeed. It's crazy though will not sign all those players and keep the crap aswell. You need one team and a half not three. a winger and a central midfielder, carrick is there to replace scholes in the coming years.

Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

Rai Krol wrote:Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

How many times are we going to have this arguement? You're top of the league inspite of your midfield, not because of it. Ronaldo has dragged you there. If you win the league this season then it'll be the most average team to win it since Blackburn did.

Obispo wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

How many times are we going to have this arguement?

Untill you admit defeat

Obispo wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

How many times are we going to have this arguement? You're top of the league inspite of your midfield, not because of it. Ronaldo has dragged you there. If you win the league this season then it'll be the most average team to win it since Blackburn did.

Really do not agree, I think this team is better than the Chelsea team that won it 2 years ago, but this United side is no way near as good as the unbeaten Arsenal side that won it a few years back, they were different class

Obispo wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

How many times are we going to have this arguement? You're top of the league inspite of your midfield, not because of it. Ronaldo has dragged you there. If you win the league this season then it'll be the most average team to win it since Blackburn did.

And if we had..

Alonso & Gerrard this Manchester United would be the best United team to win the league?

If Ronaldo is single handily winning Manchester United the league .. is he better than any of the Liverpool midfield players?

You being a Liverpool fan would 'obviously' hate Manchester United, i take your comments with a pinch of salt.

Obispo wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:Liverpool have the better midfield, thats why they are top of the league

How many times are we going to have this arguement? You're top of the league inspite of your midfield, not because of it. Ronaldo has dragged you there. If you win the league this season then it'll be the most average team to win it since Blackburn did.

I see you're never going to let this one go

Utter garbage. Scholes and Carrick's central pairing has been the best in the league this season. Best ball retention, best passing, freeing Ronaldo and Giggs to do their stuff down the wings.

Liverpool have a more dynamic midfield with more bite, and in Europe are better organised,

but since we all know that the problem with the premiership is often an inability to retain the ball well (where a 5yard pass is at times far more important than a 50yard one), Liverpool are behind Man United and Arsenal's midfield in the ability to balance creativity and possession

Rai Krol wrote:
If Ronaldo is single handily winning Manchester United the league .. is he better than any of the Liverpool midfield players?

Yes. All of them this season.

Why don't we compare players in isolation?

Has Carrick outscored, out passed or out tackled Alonso? No.

Has Scholes oustcored Gerrard? No. He's certainly out passed him, but is on the verge of a 2nd suspension for shit tackling.

Has Giggs outscored Garcia? Not in all competitions. He now has a single goal more in the premiership however. I'm not sure what they're like on the assists, but Garcia had a fair few before his injury.

So who does that leave? Wouldn't be Ronaldo vs Pennant, would it?

Das Reale Weiss Pele wrote:
I see you're never going to let this one go

On the contrary - when it stops being true I'll gladly stop.

Utter garbage. Scholes and Carrick's central pairing has been the best in the league this season. Best ball retention, best passing, freeing Ronaldo and Giggs to do their stuff down the wings.

Aye. Great passing... 5 yards square to Ronaldo. I'm sure Xabi could manage that 100 times a game to get his pass percentage up. Not quite as effective if you're giving the ball to Pennant though.