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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:08 pm

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    I very much doubt he has scored many against arsenal saints. call it a hunch Wink

    I've no idea what you're talking about.

    He is probably the one player that has caused liverpool the most trouble over the years, well apart from john o'shea that is

    Drogba's done more against you than Henry.

    henry's goal scoring record is SPECTACULAR Laughing

    So is Andy Cole's. So, for that matter, is Robbie Fowler's.
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    Post by Rosicky Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:12 pm

    are there any sites which gives the amount of goals a player has scored against certain clubs?

    ie henry vs liverpool
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:16 pm

    Rosicky wrote:are there any sites which gives the amount of goals a player has scored against certain clubs?

    ie henry vs liverpool

    In truth, I've never come across one so I don't actually know, I'm just bantering. His record against the Scousers may well be pretty good. But isn't it 7 finals, 0 goals so far? He couldn't even score against Southampton...
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    Post by COTR Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:19 pm

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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:21 pm

    "The possibility of Eto’o leaving the Camp Nou this summer remains a very real one, despite his insistence that he wants to stay in Catalan."

    Can't even get the name right.. Is Eto'o living in a dictionary or something??

    And I'll repeat it again and again swapping Henry for Eto'o is stupidity..
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    Post by 110% Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:23 pm

    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:are there any sites which gives the amount of goals a player has scored against certain clubs?

    ie henry vs liverpool

    In truth, I've never come across one so I don't actually know, I'm just bantering. His record against the Scousers may well be pretty good. But isn't it 7 finals, 0 goals so far? He couldn't even score against Southampton...

    But I'm sure you could make that argument against most strikers. How many finals have eto'o, shevchenko etc scored in? How many finals has zidane or kaka scored in?

    Does this make gerrard the best player in the world since he has scored in many (and own goals as well Wink).
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    Post by Rez Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:27 pm

    Lets not get into another Henry debate. We all know he doesnt do that well in finals, but he is a great player and has been one of the best players (but not the best french player) of the Premiership era.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:28 pm

    110% wrote:
    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:are there any sites which gives the amount of goals a player has scored against certain clubs?

    ie henry vs liverpool

    In truth, I've never come across one so I don't actually know, I'm just bantering. His record against the Scousers may well be pretty good. But isn't it 7 finals, 0 goals so far? He couldn't even score against Southampton...

    But I'm sure you could make that argument against most strikers. How many finals have eto'o, shevchenko etc scored in?

    More than Henry. Eto'o scored in the last CL final that he played in. Henry didn't.

    How many finals has zidane or kaka scored in?

    Zidane scored an absolute belter (one of the best cup final goals I've seen) in the CL final. Zidane scored two in the World Cup final.
    Kaka didn't score in the last CL final he played in but he set up the winner beautifully (and he's not a striker, he's an attacking midfielder).

    Does this make gerrard the best player in the world since he has scored in many (and own goals as well Wink).

    No, it makes him a better player than Henry.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:30 pm

    Rez wrote:Lets not get into another Henry debate. We all know he doesnt do that well in finals, but he is a great player and has been one of the best players (but not the best french player) of the Premiership era.

    Fair enough. So have Andy Cole and Robbie Fowler.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:31 pm

    in that case how do you rate belletti?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:36 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:41 pm

    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
    lol!
    so you wouldnt put henry in a top 5 list of the best prem players?
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    Post by COTR Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:42 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
    lol!
    so you wouldnt put henry in a top 5 list of the best prem players?

    he doesn't score in finals or against arsenal so how could you Laughing


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    Post by Rosicky Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:52 pm

    Rez wrote:Lets not get into another Henry debate. We all know he doesnt do that well in finals, but he is a great player and has been one of the best players (but not the best french player) of the Premiership era.

    o dear... Smile
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:56 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
    lol!
    so you wouldnt put henry in a top 5 list of the best prem players?

    Now, or all-time? Either way, the answer's no. He isn't even Arsenal's best all-time Premiership player.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:58 pm

    COTR wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
    lol!
    so you wouldnt put henry in a top 5 list of the best prem players?

    he doesn't score in finals or against arsenal so how could you Laughing

    You wanna shut the f@ck up about cynically getting a moderator to edit my post so it said 'Arsenal'?

    great to have you back saints Wink

    You'll regret saying that.
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    Post by Rosicky Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:58 pm

    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Suzie Quatro wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:in that case how do you rate belletti?

    As having a better goalscoring record in finals than Henry.
    lol!
    so you wouldnt put henry in a top 5 list of the best prem players?

    Now, or all-time? Either way, the answer's no. He isn't even Arsenal's best all-time Premiership player.

    Depends if he leaves or stays. if he spends the rest of his career at Arsenal then he most definatly will be.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:04 pm

    I still reckon Adams and Bergkamp have given more to the club than Henry. Where was he this season when you needed him to nurture some youngsters? Relaxing on a sodding beach somewhere...
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    Post by Rez Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:06 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    Rez wrote:Lets not get into another Henry debate. We all know he doesnt do that well in finals, but he is a great player and has been one of the best players (but not the best french player) of the Premiership era.

    o dear... Smile

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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:13 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    Rez wrote:Lets not get into another Henry debate. We all know he doesnt do that well in finals, but he is a great player and has been one of the best players (but not the best french player) of the Premiership era.

    o dear... Smile

    He's right.

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    Post by Rez Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:21 pm

    Kimbo nice avatar <Ale>
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:25 pm

    Better Premiership players than Henry -

    Roy Keane
    Ryan Giggs
    Peter Schmeichel
    Eric Cantona
    Dennis Bergkamp
    Alan Shearer

    So that's 6 at least.

    He'd be on the same level as Vieira, Scholes, Zola and a few others.
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    Post by TM Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:27 pm

    Henry same level as Zola Shocked
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    Post by Rosicky Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:27 pm

    Target Man SSK wrote:Henry same level as Zola Shocked
    lol!
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:31 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Better Premiership players than Henry -

    Roy Keane
    Ryan Giggs
    Peter Schmeichel
    Eric Cantona
    Dennis Bergkamp
    Alan Shearer

    So that's 6 at least.

    He'd be on the same level as Vieira, Scholes, Zola and a few others.

    I hope that's not in order squire.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:31 pm

    I'd have Scholes and Giggs above Henry too - both have won more for a start. Beckham also. And maybe Fowler and Andy Cole. And definitely Matt Le Tissier.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:33 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Better Premiership players than Henry -

    Roy Keane
    Ryan Giggs
    Peter Schmeichel
    Eric Cantona
    Dennis Bergkamp
    Alan Shearer

    So that's 6 at least.

    He'd be on the same level as Vieira, Scholes, Zola and a few others.

    I hope that's not in order squire.

    No, though Shearer wouldn't make my top 3.

    Keane, Bergkamp & Cantona. Then Shearer, Giggs and Schmeichel.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:35 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Better Premiership players than Henry -

    Roy Keane
    Ryan Giggs
    Peter Schmeichel
    Eric Cantona
    Dennis Bergkamp
    Alan Shearer

    So that's 6 at least.

    He'd be on the same level as Vieira, Scholes, Zola and a few others.

    I hope that's not in order squire.

    No, though Shearer wouldn't make my top 3.

    Keane, Bergkamp & Cantona. Then Shearer, Giggs and Schmeichel.

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    Post by Tweesus Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:37 pm

    Suzie Quatro wrote:I'd have Scholes and Giggs above Henry too - both have won more for a start. Beckham also. And maybe Fowler and Andy Cole. And definitely Matt Le Tissier.

    Winning more trophies doesn't mean that you're a better player.

    Djimi Traoré is definately better than Henry though. He's got a CL medal ok
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:39 pm

    It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.

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