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Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
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People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
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Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
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Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
Its true, Henry>Bergkamp any day
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Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
True, nobody ever acknowledges the fact that he was a dirty fucker.
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Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
With Bergkamp it was more quality than quantity
he is up there with Michael Laudrup , sheer technical geniuses of the 90's
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Kimbo wrote:Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
True, nobody ever acknowledges the fact that he was a dirty fucker.
Just because he scored that goal against you.
And he never was 'Shearer' dirty either.
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Getting back to Man Utd looking for a striker.
I think that most people would agree that Man Utds formation next season will be 4-2-3-1.
Some people have a problem with this because with Saha being injury prone and if Man Utd don't sign a World Class Stiker then it will be Rooney upfront on his own and Rooney is not a target man.
But if you look at Roma, they also play 4-2-3-1 with Totti upfront and he is also not a target man. Totti is a number 10, a playmaker.
So i don't see a problem with Man Utd playing Rooney upfront on his own or if Man Utd didn't sign a new striker as long as there is plenty of support and movement from the midfield players, i.e. Ronaldo, Giggs, Park, Scholes, Nani, Anderson....
I think that most people would agree that Man Utds formation next season will be 4-2-3-1.
Some people have a problem with this because with Saha being injury prone and if Man Utd don't sign a World Class Stiker then it will be Rooney upfront on his own and Rooney is not a target man.
But if you look at Roma, they also play 4-2-3-1 with Totti upfront and he is also not a target man. Totti is a number 10, a playmaker.
So i don't see a problem with Man Utd playing Rooney upfront on his own or if Man Utd didn't sign a new striker as long as there is plenty of support and movement from the midfield players, i.e. Ronaldo, Giggs, Park, Scholes, Nani, Anderson....
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DD wrote:Kimbo wrote:Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
True, nobody ever acknowledges the fact that he was a dirty fucker.
Just because he scored that goal against you.
And he never was 'Shearer' dirty either.
He was just as dirty as Shearer, but because he wasn't as physical and couldn't throw defenders around like Shearer could people ignored it. Great player, but dirty nontheless.
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Kimbo wrote:DD wrote:Kimbo wrote:Tweedle wrote:Parks lives wrote:It does help though when you are an integral part of each of those teams though.
People look back on Bergkamp with rose tinted glasses it seems. There is no way he was better than Henry
True, nobody ever acknowledges the fact that he was a dirty fucker.
Just because he scored that goal against you.
And he never was 'Shearer' dirty either.
He was just as dirty as Shearer, but because he wasn't as physical and couldn't throw defenders around like Shearer could people ignored it. Great player, but dirty nontheless.
Agree Bergkamp was a very dirty player, noticed it often. Great player also though.
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Why does he have to be World Class? Very few strikers in the World are actually World Class. An International standard striker can still fire you to the trophies you want.
Players like Samuel Eto'o and David Villa are out of the price range I think, so why not go for an Anelka, Trezeguet or a Afonso Alves?
I do think that you will play will a lone striker next year, and Rooney cannot play all season there as he is best dropping into deep positions to begin moves.
Players like Samuel Eto'o and David Villa are out of the price range I think, so why not go for an Anelka, Trezeguet or a Afonso Alves?
I do think that you will play will a lone striker next year, and Rooney cannot play all season there as he is best dropping into deep positions to begin moves.
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Yeah Bergkamp did have a sly element to his game but so many of the greats in this League have had it too like Alan Shearer for example.
Don't forget about Wayne Rooney as well.
Don't forget about Wayne Rooney as well.
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I agree he doesn't have to be World class. He doesn't have to be that prolific either.
With Ronaldo and Rooney we just need someone who can link with them well and bring them into play. 15 - 20 goals would be a bonus.
With Ronaldo and Rooney we just need someone who can link with them well and bring them into play. 15 - 20 goals would be a bonus.
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Cesc wrote:Why does he have to be World Class? Very few strikers in the World are actually World Class. An International standard striker can still fire you to the trophies you want.
Maybe i should have said a striker with the potential to be World Class.
Players like Samuel Eto'o and David Villa are out of the price range I think, so why not go for an Anelka, Trezeguet or a Afonso Alves?
I would take Anelka or Trezeguet but some fans think Anelka is a risk and that Trezeguet is not all that.
I do think that you will play will a lone striker next year, and Rooney cannot play all season there as he is best dropping into deep positions to begin moves.
That is what Totti does for Roma and i have always thought that Rooney is a similar player to Totti. Next season it will be 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 depending on the team we play or who is fit.
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Anelka isn't that much of a risk I think giving him a chance as big as that would just bring out the best in him, after all who would dare speak up to Ferguson!
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Luis wrote:Anelka isn't that much of a risk I think giving him a chance as big as that would just bring out the best in him, after all who would dare speak up to Ferguson!
I agree with you, I'd like Anelka. However it's not about him speaking up, it's more about him just not trying in games and training.
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Parks lives wrote:Better Premiership players than Henry -
Roy Keane
Ryan Giggs
Peter Schmeichel
Eric Cantona
Dennis Bergkamp
Alan Shearer
So that's 6 at least.
He'd be on the same level as Vieira, Scholes, Zola and a few others.
a thug above a footballer , nice one parky
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Parks lives wrote:Luis wrote:Anelka isn't that much of a risk I think giving him a chance as big as that would just bring out the best in him, after all who would dare speak up to Ferguson!
I agree with you, I'd like Anelka. However it's not about him speaking up, it's more about him just not trying in games and training.
Don't think there'd be any danger of that, there's a difference between doing that at clubs with little success and ambition such as City and Fernebache but with United he surely would feel the need to prove himself, would be a good signing
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Henry MOTM in the Euro 2000 final.
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Batman wrote:Cesc wrote:Why does he have to be World Class? Very few strikers in the World are actually World Class. An International standard striker can still fire you to the trophies you want.
Maybe i should have said a striker with the potential to be World Class.
Players like Samuel Eto'o and David Villa are out of the price range I think, so why not go for an Anelka, Trezeguet or a Afonso Alves?
I would take Anelka or Trezeguet but some fans think Anelka is a risk and that Trezeguet is not all that.
I do think that you will play will a lone striker next year, and Rooney cannot play all season there as he is best dropping into deep positions to begin moves.
That is what Totti does for Roma and i have always thought that Rooney is a similar player to Totti. Next season it will be 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 depending on the team we play or who is fit.
Trez is shite and would just ruin the fluidity of your attack
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Agooner wrote:Batman wrote:Cesc wrote:Why does he have to be World Class? Very few strikers in the World are actually World Class. An International standard striker can still fire you to the trophies you want.
Maybe i should have said a striker with the potential to be World Class.
Players like Samuel Eto'o and David Villa are out of the price range I think, so why not go for an Anelka, Trezeguet or a Afonso Alves?
I would take Anelka or Trezeguet but some fans think Anelka is a risk and that Trezeguet is not all that.
I do think that you will play will a lone striker next year, and Rooney cannot play all season there as he is best dropping into deep positions to begin moves.
That is what Totti does for Roma and i have always thought that Rooney is a similar player to Totti. Next season it will be 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 depending on the team we play or who is fit.
Trez is shite and would just ruin the fluidity of your attack
He's hardly shite
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Hmmmm paying the budget of half Africa for Villa. Or paying Johnson money for Alves.....tough choice!
PS Alves is better as well!
PS Alves is better as well!
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poor 1st touch, slow, can't hold the ball up, generally shite on the ball.
he's a good finisher though.
he's a good finisher though.
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Afonso Alves is not only has WC potential, but he's on the cusp of being declared truly undoubtedly WC. Give him between half a season and a whole season again to prove everyone all over again.
Rivaldo mark II. And just as great.
Rivaldo mark II. And just as great.
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poor man's RVNAgooner wrote:poor 1st touch, slow, can't hold the ball up, generally shite on the ball.
he's a good finisher though.
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Completely agree.Cesc wrote:Why does he have to be World Class? Very few strikers in the World are actually World Class. An International standard striker can still fire you to the trophies you want.
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Agooner wrote:poor 1st touch, slow, can't hold the ball up, generally shite on the ball.
he's a good finisher though.
Good header of the ball as well, and as you say he can finish, I would sign him as a last resort though.
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DD wrote:Afonso Alves is not only has WC potential, but he's on the cusp of being declared truly undoubtedly WC. Give him between half a season and a whole season again to prove everyone all over again.
Rivaldo mark II. And just as great.
Rivaldo II is a big statement, is he actually that good? As Rivaldo used to be one of my favourite strikers, I think everyone is waiting to see how he does next season or in the Copa America before they make a move.
His goal scoring record cant be ignored, but when I saw him he looked good, but lacked the wow factor of Rivaldo.
We have signed our only Brazilian, I would be surprised if we signed another one.
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Another Henry bitching session 
Ginola was better
What do people think of this suggestion:
I Spurs can sell Mido & Defoe for about a combined £15m-or-so, would it be a gamble to try to get Anelka for £8-£10m?
A top 3 of Anelka, Berbatov & Keane, plus a genuine cheap no.4 striker (say, Vassell, Pongolle etc.) would be a much better balanced striking stable IMO
Ginola was better
What do people think of this suggestion:
I Spurs can sell Mido & Defoe for about a combined £15m-or-so, would it be a gamble to try to get Anelka for £8-£10m?
A top 3 of Anelka, Berbatov & Keane, plus a genuine cheap no.4 striker (say, Vassell, Pongolle etc.) would be a much better balanced striking stable IMO
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