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    Capello Fired ?

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:03 am

    Wow, I don't like Capello, but the way you guys are treating him is an abomination. Well we can't expect anything better from Real.

    I hope Capello gets all that you guys owe him.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:19 am

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Wow, I don't like Capello, but the way you guys are treating him is an abomination. Well we can't expect anything better from Real.

    I hope Capello gets all that you guys owe him.
    whats wrong with firing him? i know he won us the league but they way he did it was bad. allthough that it is not the most important reason for me wanting him fired. has had a year and we look worse in attack then before and just as bad in defence as before despite playing much more defensive. we won because of spirit but there is no way we would be able to do that a hole season. also he has show a suprising amount of tactical errors throughout the season. in the last game he started with diarra-emerson which hasnt worked at any point in the season he makes the same mistakes over and over. there is no order in this team and i trust shuster or laudrup more for Reals future then capello.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:33 am

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Wow, I don't like Capello, but the way you guys are treating him is an abomination. Well we can't expect anything better from Real.

    I hope Capello gets all that you guys owe him.
    whats wrong with firing him? i know he won us the league but they way he did it was bad. allthough that it is not the most important reason for me wanting him fired. has had a year and we look worse in attack then before and just as bad in defence as before despite playing much more defensive. we won because of spirit but there is no way we would be able to do that a hole season. also he has show a suprising amount of tactical errors throughout the season. in the last game he started with diarra-emerson which hasnt worked at any point in the season he makes the same mistakes over and over. there is no order in this team and i trust shuster or laudrup more for Reals future then capello.

    Fair points, but I believe a similar speech was delivered when Del Bosque left.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:36 am

    del bosque was not fired for anything on field so i dont get the comparison other then getting fired after wining the league. del bosque had enemies in the board room or something like that. also perez was obsesed with image and del bosque didnt have a media friendly one so he got cut.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:53 am

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:del bosque was not fired for anything on field so i dont get the comparison other then getting fired after wining the league. del bosque had enemies in the board room or something like that. also perez was obsesed with image and del bosque didnt have a media friendly one so he got cut.

    I remember Perez using similar rhetoric to either ease his conscience or actually making other people believe that Del Bosque wasn't "modern enough."

    These are the things that have hurt Real in the past, and they look like they're going to bite you again. The biggest mistake Capello made was probably with Beckham, but let's be honest, Calderon didn't help that either. When a coach wins something, you should at least give him another season to work with calm.

    It's a bad move.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:31 am

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Wow, I don't like Capello, but the way you guys are treating him is an abomination. Well we can't expect anything better from Real.

    I hope Capello gets all that you guys owe him.

    What goes around, comes around. After we won the title in 96/97 Capello jumped ship to go back to Milan. There was no sense of loyalty on his part (except for towards Berlusconi). Managers get fired and hired by clubs all of the time. Managers leave for better opportunities all of the time and nobody crucifies them. It's the way of football. Nobody should have their feelings hurt over something like this.

    Personally, I would have voted for continuity at this point. And I do admire the job that Capello did because it was not easy -- to dismantle the remaining "galaticos" and to put together a winning team. He did everything that was asked of him. Probably that is why his sacking appears so unjust. But I do echo LSR's comments that football at Real Madrid must be a bit more than just pragmatism. That is just the way it is.
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    Post by Tarun Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:37 am

    Capello sucks when it comes to Champions League.
    Real need to look ahead at building a squad at this moment & Capello is not their guy. He is highly egoistic & rather de-stabilizes the squad than bringing it together. The very players he sidelined in the beginning due to his preferences (for example Beckham & Robinho) ended up doing well for the club as the season progressed. And loyalty is not his strong point
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:41 am

    Real would be mad to replace Capello by Schuster !

    Capello plays result-football, but at least you get results...

    Schuster just plays boring to prove he's German : Getafe scored 39 goals in 38 matches Yikes


    You've heard it hear first : Real will NOT win La Liga if they appoint Schuster the Scheiter as manager.

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    Post by DD Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:57 am

    Axeslammer wrote:Real would be mad to replace Capello by Schuster !

    Capello plays result-football, but at least you get results...

    Schuster just plays boring to prove he's German : Getafe scored 39 goals in 38 matches Yikes


    You've heard it hear first : Real will NOT win La Liga if they appoint Schuster the Scheiter as manager.

    True story Ale
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    You think Schuster will get you scoring more goals? Laughing
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    Post by Rez Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:01 am

    I dont know that much about Schuster, but you need to get rid of capello before he ruins Reals image of playing good football.
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    Post by Rez Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:02 am

    Darling wrote:no FLAIR manager can guarantee you trophies

    boring, pragmatic , defensive guys like Capello, Hiddink, Stevens and Ancelotti (to some extent) can, with the right material

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    Post by Super Progress Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:01 pm

    DD wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:Real would be mad to replace Capello by Schuster !

    Capello plays result-football, but at least you get results...

    Schuster just plays boring to prove he's German : Getafe scored 39 goals in 38 matches Yikes


    You've heard it hear first : Real will NOT win La Liga if they appoint Schuster the Scheiter as manager.

    True story Ale
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    You think Schuster will get you scoring more goals? Laughing
    yes he most certainly will. if you have seen getafes games its obvious why they dont score much. over the years a already poor and low quality team has lost its best players and their important striker riki. the thing is that he has tried to play attacking but his offensive players are not good enough at goal scoring but they play very well.
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    Del bosque won a trophy every year of his 3.5 years in madrid. so im not sure that is true. also ancelotti has 3 big titles(2xCl 1xserie a) in like 5 years.
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    Post by EMP Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:40 pm

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    Luis wrote:win the league and your fired, dont win it and your fired

    Its not all about winning, its the style of play. Everyone was tired of his boring unattractive football, and yes we won the league, but look at the way we won it, on goal difference between Barça, had we been in England Barça would have been campeones.

    Deservedly in myopinion. I detest this head to head results nonsense. It is a league not a two legged cup final. Performances against every team in it should count first. Goal difference should be first tie breaker. If equal, then go to head to head. And I am not a Barca fan, nor do I hate Real Madrid. This is just my unbiased opinion.
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    Post by EMP Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:17 pm

    Capello's teams play god-awful football. Real Madrid won the title by default, and to some extent in spite of Capello. As some have already said, his tactics and abilities were found wanting in certain situations. He lacked the flexibility to adapt his thinking to the needs of the situation. Even the final match where his substitutions were more astute than usual, the question remains, why did he need to change the way Madrid played in the first place? I would suggest because he got it wrong again and he kneww he was history if Madrid didn't win. As it turned out he was deservedly history.

    Secondly, Capello has no loyalty. He left Madrid for a better opportunity. When that didn't work out he went to Roma and deserted them for Juve. When Juve got relegated he was the first to leave. The man is a mercenary whore whose teams win by ensuring everyone falls asleep through boredom. And he praised Franco. Complete and utter bastard, but other than all that he is a nice guy. Have no sympathy for him at all.

    Still unconvinced by Schuster. He was a disaster at Levante. Not sure he is ready for big club. In my opinion should stay at Levante and build up his reputation. If he is good enough he will get opportunities later and not have his neck on the chopping block immediately. I doubt Madrid will give him time to fail. It is one of Madrid's biggest problems. Coaches need time to build, but success must be instant.

    Sorry, meant Getafe.


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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:20 pm

    Let me make one thing clear: I abhor Capello. One of my posts about the man touches on all the issues mentioned here. To quote from it: "Calderon and Capello are sacks of $h!t, and they deserve each other".

    But from a Real persepective (leaving aside issues of loyalty), this move defies belief. The manager just had a successful season, and to then sack him borders on the absurd (notwithstanding his brand of football).

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