2. Bundesliga 2007/2008

matchday 6:
Fr., 21.09.
Bor. M'gladbach - FC Augsburg
Greuther Fürth - Alemannia Aachen
SC Paderborn 07 - 1899 Hoffenheim
VfL Osnabrück - Erzgebirge Aue
TSV 1860 München - FC St. Pauli

So., 23.09.
SC Freiburg - 1. FC K'lautern
TuS Koblenz -1. FC Köln
Kick. Offenbach - FSV Mainz 05
Wehen Wiesbaden - FC CZ Jena

http://www.bundesliga.de/en/liga2/tabelle/

the league table, sh¡t kaiserslautern in the relegation zone, but would be good to see St.Pauli and 1860 get promoted

FT
Bor. M'gladbach - FC Augsburg 4:2
1:0 Neuville 43.
2:0 Neuville 51.
2:1 Dreßler 53.
3:1 Friend 60.
3:2 Diabang 72.
4:2 Rafael 86.

Greuther Fürth - Alemannia Aachen 2:0
1:0 Nehrig 36.
2:0 Lanig 70.
sent off: Lagerblom (Aachen) 43, 2Y

SC Paderborn 07 - 1899 Hoffenheim 0:2
0:1 Jaissle 26.
0:2 Copado 45.

VfL Osnabrück - Erzgebirge Aue 2:1
1:0 Heidrich 32.
2:0 Reichenberger 68.
2:1 Nemec 80.

TSV 1860 München - FC St. Pauli 2:1
1:0 di Salvo 13.
2:0 Göktan 28.
2:1 Braun 32.
attendance: 48.000

Jena have installed Valdas Ivanauskaus as new coach.
Frau Steinhaus refereed the Paderborn - Hoffenheim game, making her the first female referee in German professional football.

what a great attendance for the 1860 match embaresses the EPL, good win lionman

SC Freiburg - 1. FC K'lautern 1:0
1:0 Krmas 78.
Fromlowitz saves penalty by Banovic 69.

TuS Koblenz -1. FC Köln 1:2
1:0 Dzaka 31
1:1 Novakovic 37.
1:2 Novakovic 71.

Kick. Offenbach - FSV Mainz 05 2:0
1:0 Türker 42.
2:0 Judt 73.
sent off: Amri (Mainz) 66.

Wehen Wiesbaden - FC CZ Jena 5:1
1:0 Diakite 9.
2:0 Diakite 11.
3:0 Siegert 20.
4:0 Nicu 41.
5:0 Nicu 73.
5:1 Simak 82, pen

1 TSV 1860 München 6 15:5 14
2 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 6 9:2 14
3 Kickers Offenbach 6 9:9 12
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4 1. FC Köln 6 9:6 11
5 SC Freiburg 6 8:6 11
6 Borussia M'gladbach 6 11:10 11
7 1. FSV Mainz 05 6 11:9 10
8 SV Wehen 6 13:12 10
9 FC St. Pauli 6 7:7 9
10 Alemannia Aachen 6 7:7 8
11 VfL Osnabrück 6 7:8 8
12 Erzgebirge Aue 6 10:9 7
13 TSG Hoffenheim 6 9:10 7
14 TuS Koblenz 6 8:11 7
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15 FC Augsburg 6 11:15 4
16 1. FC Kaiserslautern 6 4:8 3
17 SC Paderborn 6 0:6 2
18 FC Carl Zeiss Jena 6 8:16 1

Borussia M'Gladbach have a dutch coach right?

Since 1888 wrote:Borussia M'Gladbach have a dutch coach right?

Yes, Jos Luhukay

Marko Marin BMG vs. Hoffenheim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IoiIOqyqGA

Next season he will wear a Bremen shirt...

matchday 7:
25.09.
Erzgebirge Aue : 1899 Hoffenheim
FC St. Pauli : Bor. M'gladbach
FC Augsburg : VfL Osnabrück
Alemannia Aachen : SC Paderborn 07

26.09.
TuS Koblenz : Greuther Fürth
FC CZ Jena : Kick. Offenbach
1. FC K'lautern : Wehen Wiesbaden
1. FC Köln : SC Freiburg

27.09.
FSV Mainz 05 : TSV 1860 München

What's happening to Kaiserslautern?

Juego de la Okkas wrote:What's happening to Kaiserslautern?

Nobody really knows, I guess. I regarded them as a strong contentor for promotion as they appeared to have a strong squad. But this season they often played poorly, or they played too inconsistent to win. I suppose, if they don't get results quickly, they will play no more part this season.

The DFL declines Jena's proposed treaty with an Russian investment group in it's current form:
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/news/17440/24092007_1918/news/anzeigen.html

Köln will probably have to do without Mondragon and Helmes against Freiburg.

Danny Schwarz is a doubtful for 1860 after breaking his rips against St. Pauli. Sven Bender is also slightly injured, while Gebhart is with the u19 (they started EC qualification today against Bosnia with a 8:1 victory)

lionman wrote:
1 TSV 1860 München 6 15:5 14
2 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 6 9:2 14
3 Kickers Offenbach 6 9:9 12
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4 1. FC Köln 6 9:6 11
5 SC Freiburg 6 8:6 11
6 Borussia M'gladbach 6 11:10 11
7 1. FSV Mainz 05 6 11:9 10
8 SV Wehen 6 13:12 10
9 FC St. Pauli 6 7:7 9
10 Alemannia Aachen 6 7:7 8
11 VfL Osnabrück 6 7:8 8
12 Erzgebirge Aue 6 10:9 7
13 TSG Hoffenheim 6 9:10 7
14 TuS Koblenz 6 8:11 7
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15 FC Augsburg 6 11:15 4
16 1. FC Kaiserslautern 6 4:8 3
17 SC Paderborn 6 0:6 2
18 FC Carl Zeiss Jena 6 8:16 1

Up up up

chrissicross wrote:Marko Marin BMG vs. Hoffenheim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IoiIOqyqGA

Next season he will wear a Bremen shirt...

Has Werder already made an offer to sign Marin? Must have missed that news then.
Or is the rumour just a wish your heart makes, Chrissi?

Männliche Intuition, Ballhaeschen.

chrissicross wrote:Männliche Intuition, Ballhaeschen.

Sowat gibbet auch? Man/frau lernt hier ja nie aus...

Would be a great signing for you , just not sure if BMG would let their 'biggest jewel' go.
According to transfermarkt.de his contract runs until 2010 and if BMG get promoted this season, then I'd expect him to stay or, my dear Werderaner, you have to dig deeeeeeep into your pockets.
How much did Hoeness pay for Jansen? 10.000.000 € ??? Well, they won't sell him at a bargain price then.

Ballhaeschen wrote:
Would be a great signing for you , just not sure if BMG would let their 'biggest jewel' go.
According to transfermarkt.de his contract runs until 2010 and if BMG get promoted this season, then I'd expect him to stay or, my dear Werderaner, you have to dig deeeeeeep into your pockets.
How much did Hoeness pay for Jansen? 10.000.000 € ??? Well, they won't sell him at a bargain price then.

I don´t think they can demand so much money for him yet. Jansen was already a German A international, Marin isn´t even a U21 regular so far. And Jansen is a left footed LB, a rare species...

...but we better should hurry to lure him to Bremen. I would sign him already in the winter break, so he could help our U23 team to qualify for the 3rd League, which is very important.

chrissicross wrote:...but we better should hurry to lure him to Bremen. I would sign him already in the winter break, so he could help our U23 team to qualify for the 3rd League, which is very important.

Bitte? Von was träumst du denn nachts???

I don´t think they can demand so much money for him yet. Jansen was already a German A international, Marin isn´t even a U21 regular so far. And Jansen is a left footed LB, a rare species...

You are right about Jansen, though Marin is a very special player with huge potential, with this in mind a rare species too. And on top of that, he seems to be a good boy and less ego-ish than some of our other bright talents. He's already quite mature for his age and BMG would make a fool of themselves, if they let him go for peanuts.

Ballhaeschen wrote:

chrissicross wrote:...but we better should hurry to lure him to Bremen. I would sign him already in the winter break, so he could help our U23 team to qualify for the 3rd League, which is very important.

Bitte? Von was träumst du denn nachts???

I don´t think they can demand so much money for him yet. Jansen was already a German A international, Marin isn´t even a U21 regular so far. And Jansen is a left footed LB, a rare species...

You are right about Jansen, though Marin is a very special player with huge potential, with this in mind a rare species too. And on top of that, he seems to be a good boy and less ego-ish than some of our other bright talents. He's already quite mature for his age and BMG would make a fool of themselves, if they let him go for peanuts.

Remember the HSV offered 10m for Jansen long before Bayern, but Gladbach rejected that offer. So they hardly could sell him for much less to Bayern then. And apparently even Arsenal and Barca were interested in Jansen back then. There was also a reason for the high offer from Hamburg called "Torschlußpanik" when they were looking for a LB...now they have Sorin, and for Bayern money didn´t matter this sommer...and Jansen was a real Gladbacher unlike Marin...

All in all there were a lot of reasons which made Jansen relatively expensive. Gladbach could never demand anywhere near 10m for Marin; ~4m should be a very good bid for him in the winter break, and we could maybe also loan Niemeyer and Mosquera to Gladbach for a season or two...

chrissicross wrote:
Remember the HSV offered 10m for Jansen long before Bayern, but Gladbach rejected that offer. So they hardly could sell him for much less to Bayern then. And apparently even Arsenal and Barca were interested in Jansen back then. There was also a reason for the high offer from Hamburg called "Torschlußpanik" when they were looking for a LB...now they have Sorin, and for Bayern money didn´t matter this sommer...and Jansen was a real Gladbacher unlike Marin...

All in all there were a lot of reasons which made Jansen relatively expensive. Gladbach could never demand anywhere near 10m for Marin; ~4m should be a very good bid for him in the winter break, and we could maybe also loan Niemeyer and Mosquera to Gladbach for a season or two...

Remember that his contract runs until 2010 and for all I know, BMG are not desperately in need of money. They have ambitious aims and need quality players like Marin to get promoted this season, which will be a difficult task to undertake anyway, considering the strength of the 2. Bundesliga. So why would they want to sell him then? If they do not fall for the BIG money offered to them, I really can't see him wearing your fashionable new jersey in January.

Ballhaeschen wrote:

chrissicross wrote:
Remember the HSV offered 10m for Jansen long before Bayern, but Gladbach rejected that offer. So they hardly could sell him for much less to Bayern then. And apparently even Arsenal and Barca were interested in Jansen back then. There was also a reason for the high offer from Hamburg called "Torschlußpanik" when they were looking for a LB...now they have Sorin, and for Bayern money didn´t matter this sommer...and Jansen was a real Gladbacher unlike Marin...

All in all there were a lot of reasons which made Jansen relatively expensive. Gladbach could never demand anywhere near 10m for Marin; ~4m should be a very good bid for him in the winter break, and we could maybe also loan Niemeyer and Mosquera to Gladbach for a season or two...

Remember that his contract runs until 2010 and for all I know, BMG are not desperately in need of money. They have ambitious aims and need quality players like Marin to get promoted this season, which will be a difficult task to undertake anyway, considering the strength of the 2. Bundesliga. So why would they want to sell him then? If they do not fall for the BIG money offered to them, I really can't see him wearing your fashionable new jersey in January.

Dearest Ballhaeschen, please stop ruining my green-white dreams.

I want Marin in a Bremen shirt, I want, I want I want...

*butts head in*

Kinder mit 'nem Willen, bekommen was auf die Brillen, lieber Chrissi.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:*butts head in*

Kinder mit 'nem Willen, bekommen was auf die Brillen, lieber Chrissi.

I knew someone would write that.

chrissicross wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:*butts head in*

Kinder mit 'nem Willen, bekommen was auf die Brillen, lieber Chrissi.

I knew someone would write that.

Ah well, I'm in kindergarten-mode anyway, so...

That's what unexpectedly passing an exam does to one's brain.

But enough of the OT or lionman will set his 'kitties' on me...

FT
FC St. Pauli - Bor. M'gladbach 0:3
0:1 Friend 39.
0:2 Rafael 57.
0:3 Rösler 69.
sent off: Boll (St. Pauli) 39, 2Y

Alemannia Aachen - SC Paderborn 07 3:1
1:0 Kolew 17.
2:0 Nemeth 22.
2:1 Kläsener 36.
3:1 Pecka 76.

Erzgebirge Aue - 1899 Hoffenheim 2:2
0:1 Edu 8.
1:1 Nemec 12.
2:1 Heller 76.
2:2 Ibisevic 90.

FC Augsburg - VfL Osnabrück 2:0
1:0 Bennschneider 43.
2:0 Möhrle 49.
sent off: Aziz (Osnabrück) 83. [came as a sub only 7 minutes earlier!]

regarding Marin
I can't see him moving anywhere next season, he already turned down an offer from Ajax this summer.

@anglo
I have kitties??!!

Na, die halbwegs zahmen Mietzekatzen, die da Woche für Woche für Dich spielen.


[Sorry, bin heute etwas albern!]

We are no kitties, we are the only true proud and deadly lions, natural desaster by nature, too fierce to be tamed.
Hedgehogs better beware

screw you, Braunschweig!

lionman wrote:We are no kitties, we are the only true proud and deadly lions, natural desaster by nature, too fierce to be tamed.
Hedgehogs better beware

screw you, Braunschweig!

Us hedgehogs do have spikes, y'know? And if that fails, we have these big, powerful friends called humans.


Are you insinuating I am from... Braunschwürg? *stares menacingly*

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

lionman wrote:We are no kitties, we are the only true proud and deadly lions, natural desaster by nature, too fierce to be tamed.
Hedgehogs better beware

screw you, Braunschweig!

Us hedgehogs do have spikes, y'know? And if that fails, we have these big, powerful friends called humans.


Are you insinuating I am from... Braunschwürg? *stares menacingly*

There is a football club ursurping our natural right to bear this name
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eintracht_Braunschweig

lionman wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

lionman wrote:We are no kitties, we are the only true proud and deadly lions, natural desaster by nature, too fierce to be tamed.
Hedgehogs better beware

screw you, Braunschweig!

Us hedgehogs do have spikes, y'know? And if that fails, we have these big, powerful friends called humans.


Are you insinuating I am from... Braunschwürg? *stares menacingly*

There is a football club ursurping our natural right to bear this name
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eintracht_Braunschweig

Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieh... How could I forget... Must have been lost in the joy of seeing them get relegated.

One more reason to hate that city.