2. Bundesliga 2007/2008

*laugh*

You are one stubborn, but funny guy.

blutgraetsche wrote:*laugh*

You are one stubborn, but funny guy.

I know that they should have far more potential then what they showed so far. I'm also sure they show it this season, after all it's their first game in a new environment. But today, they just played average, except this scene from Edu just now. If you see already so much class, then name me some instances from this game that you're good 2-Bundesliga player couldn't have done.

penalty for Freiburg. was clearly outside the box though.

I didn't say that I saw *much class*, just glimpses of it, means that you could see what these players *might* be able to deliver in future.

Wrong penalty decision against Hoffenheim right now.

Freiburg - Hoffenheim 3:2
1:0 Cafu 6.
2:0 Löw 40, og
2:1 Edu 44.
2:2 Edu 70.
3:2 Aogo 79, pen

blutgraetsche wrote:I didn't say that I saw *much class*, just glimpses of it, means that you could see what these players *might* be able to deliver in future.

Wrong penalty decision against Hoffenheim right now.

Well. I understood it you actually saw them doing great things already and this I could not. They sure are potential great players, but I was refering to what they so far delivered. It seems we had some sort of misunderstanding then.

Was a pretty interesting match, Hoffenheim probably deserved a draw. Nice to see Freiburg winning.

FT
Freiburg - Hoffenheim 3:2
1:0 Cafu 6.
2:0 Löw 40, og
2:1 Edu 44.
2:2 Edu 70.
3:2 Aogo 79, pen

Freiburg wins on an incorrect penalty, can't say I'm overly sorry for Hoffenheim though

1 TSV 1860 München 4 13:4 10
2 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 4 7:2 10
3 1. FSV Mainz 05 4 10:6 9
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4 Kickers Offenbach 4 6:6 9
5 Erzgebirge Aue 4 7:4 7
6 1. FC Köln 4 7:5 7
7 Alemannia Aachen 4 7:5 7
8 SV Wehen 4 7:6 7
9 SC Freiburg 4 6:5 7
10 FC St. Pauli 4 3:4 6
11 VfL Osnabrück 4 4:4 5
12 Borussia M'gladbach 4 4:6 5
13 TuS Koblenz 4 5:8 4
14 1. FC Kaiserslautern 4 4:7 2
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15 FC Carl Zeiss Jena 4 6:9 1
16 SC Paderborn 4 0:4 1
17 TSG Hoffenheim 4 4:9 1
18 FC Augsburg 4 4:10 1

Blut, did you see Löw's owngoal?

Yeah, pretty embarassing.

Any links?

Not yet, guess it will be on YouTube tomorrow.

Someone do post it if you get the chance.

Comical own goals are great.

I was watching the Schalke 04 - Bayer Leverkusen game this weekend and I was very impressed by both goalkeepers, especially because not only they were good, they also look very, VERY young (The Schalke’s keeper is the cutest German kid you will ever see)

I am not sure but I think both are Germans, right? Do you think they will have a chance in your national team soon?

It's off-topic a little (-> 2. Bundesliga thread), but yes, they both have an excellent chance to play for the national team in future. Both are German, of course, and both are amongst our best talents for the position. Especially Schalke's keeper Neuer could be called up soon.

P.S.: Both are not as good as this guy yet though. (but they are younger)

Why I am not shocked that he plays for Werder.

BTW, I forced my brother to watch the Bundesliga this weekend with me, he was quite surprised about the fans (you know, the Scarves, the flags, the colorful fans) he didn't thought, as he so nicely puts it: that the blondies really like football

OMG! We have the most fanatic fans! The highest attendances for ages (even the 2. Bundesliga has impressive average attendances), and most importantly, standing terraces! Over here, football is still a fan's paradise, with great atmosphere in packed stadia, full of passionate fans, and not just rich farts who seem to be the only ones left who are able to pay ridiculous prices for the tickets. There is no stadium in the world that is louder than Schalke's or Dortmund's, for example.

Tell your brother to read this article:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=449154&root=europe&cc=5901

i missed you blut

P.S.: Tim Wiese is really great! What would we do without him...

Have not got a kalou wrote:i missed you blut

Bastard.

Juligen, Dortmund's 'Südtribüne' in the Westfalenstadion is the biggest standing terrace I know, for example - 25,000 fans causing havoc (~80,000 max. capacity of the stadium), you have to be there to believe it.

I stand enlightend:
http://www.sport1.de/de/apps/news/news-meldung/news_1651155.html

Btw, Rangnick officially ruled out a move from Ronaldinho to Hoffenheim
(that DSF-"reporters" had a glorious night once again.)

lionman wrote:I stand enlightend:
http://www.sport1.de/de/apps/news/news-meldung/news_1651155.html

Wow, I wasn´t aware Roque Junior has no club atm. I wonder why he didn´t extend his contract at Leverkusen then...

If he´s fit enough it might be a good idea.

Jena: Vertrag mit russischem Investor?

20 Millionen für Carl Zeiss

Dem FC Carl Zeiss Jena stehen rosige Zeiten bevor, auch wenn es in sportlicher Hinsicht gerade nicht so gut läuft. Um so überraschender daher die Meldung, dass die russische "Alpha Group Invest Corporation" bei den Thüringern als Investor einsteigen will.

Demnach wird das Unternehmen, das in der Baustoff- und Immobilienbranche tätig ist und seinen Sitz in Moskau hat, in den kommenden fünf Jahren mindestens 20 Millionen Euro an den Verein zahlen. Noch ist der Kontrakt allerdings nicht in trockenen Tüchern. "Die Verträge sind unterschriftsreif. Doch zuvor müssen noch die Deutsche Fußball Liga und unsere Mitglieder ihre Zustimmung geben", sagte Präsident Rainer Zipfel am Mittwoch.

Sollte die Millionen-Partnerschaft zustande kommen, würde der Investor eine 49-prozentige Beteiligung an der Spielbetriebs-GmbH des Vereins erhalten.

http://kicker.de/news/fussball/2bundesliga/startseite/artikel/369467/

It was only a matter of time. And as I had expected, East German clubs are the first target. Huge potential there, and a great bargain for any investor.

After the international break the 2. Bundesliga resumes again with matchday 5:

14.09.07
1. FC Kaiserslautern - SC Paderborn
Carl Zeiss Jena - TuS Koblenz
FC St. Pauli -Kickers Offenbach

16.09.07
FSV Mainz 05 - SC Freiburg
Alemannia Aachen - 1860 München
FC Augsburg - SV Wehen Wiesbaden
1. FC Köln - SpVgg Greuther Fürth
1899 Hoffenheim - VfL Osnabrück

17.09.07
Erzgebirge Aue - Borussia Mönchengladbach

FT
1. FC Kaiserslautern - SC Paderborn 0:0
sent off: Krösche (Pad) 67, 2Y

Carl Zeiss Jena - TuS Koblenz 1:2
0:1Daham 29.
1:1 Omodiagbe 39.
1:2 Daham 43.

FC St. Pauli -Kickers Offenbach 3:1
1:0 Ludwig 3.
1:1 Sieger 22.
2:1 Braun 34.
3:1 Eger 64.

FT
FSV Mainz 05 - SC Freiburg 1:1
0:1 Bencik 90.
1:1 Gunkel 90+2.

Alemannia Aachen - 1860 München 0:0

FC Augsburg - SV Wehen Wiesbaden 5:1
1:0 Hdiouad 26, pen
2:0 Vorbeck 28.
3:0 Szabics 35.
4:0 Ledezma 53.
4:1 Nicu 60.
5:1 Hdiouad 90.
sent off: Bick (Wehen), 70.

1. FC Köln - SpVgg Greuther Fürth 0:0

1899 Hoffenheim - VfL Osnabrück 3:1
0:1 Thomik 14.
1:1 Ba 59.
2:1 Carlos Eduardo 65.
3:1 Copado 81.

All top-games today ended drawn, which allows 1860 to stay at the top of the table. Next week against St. Pauli a win is a must, though.

1 1860 München 5 3 2 0 13:4 11
2 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 5 3 2 0 7:2 11
3 FSV Mainz 05 5 3 1 1 11:7 10
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4 FC St. Pauli 5 3 0 2 6:5 9
5 Kickers Offenbach 5 3 0 2 7:9 9
6 Alemannia Aachen 5 2 2 1 7:5 8
6 1. FC Köln 5 2 2 1 7:5 8
8 SC Freiburg 5 2 2 1 7:6 8
9 Erzgebirge Aue 4 2 1 1 7:4 7
10 TuS Koblenz 5 2 1 2 7:9 7
11 SV Wehen Wiesbaden 5 2 1 2 8:11 7
12 VfL Osnabrück 5 1 2 2 5:7 5
13 Borussia Mönchengladbach 4 1 2 1 4:6 5
14 FC Augsburg 5 1 1 3 9:11 4
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15 1899 Hoffenheim 5 1 1 3 7:10 4
16 1. FC Kaiserslautern 5 0 3 2 4:7 3
17 SC Paderborn 5 0 2 3 0:4 2
18 Carl Zeiss Jena 5 0 1 4 7:11 1

HT
Aue - Gladbach 0:2
0:1 Rösler 10.
0:2 Friend 39.
Bobel saves penalty from Neuville 43.

CZ Jena has sacked coach Neubarth after only one draw in 5 matches. It's still unknown who will replace him.

FT
Aue - Gladbach 2:3
0:1 Rösler 10.
0:2 Friend 39.
1:2 Kaufman 48.
2:2 Geißler 58.
2:3 Brouwers 64.
Bobel saves penalty from Neuville 43.

1 1860 München 5 3 2 0 13:4 11
2 SpVgg Greuther Fürth 5 3 2 0 7:2 11
3 FSV Mainz 05 5 3 1 1 11:7 10
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4 FC St. Pauli 5 3 0 2 6:5 9
5 Kickers Offenbach 5 3 0 2 7:9 9
6 Alemannia Aachen 5 2 2 1 7:5 8
6 1. FC Köln 5 2 2 1 7:5 8
8 SC Freiburg 5 2 2 1 7:6 8
9 Borussia Mönchengladbach 5 2 2 1 7:8 8
10 Erzgebirge Aue 5 2 1 2 9:7 7
11 TuS Koblenz 5 2 1 2 7:9 7
12 SV Wehen Wiesbaden 5 2 1 2 8:11 7
13 VfL Osnabrück 5 1 2 2 5:7 5
14 FC Augsburg 5 1 1 3 9:11 4
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15 1899 Hoffenheim 5 1 1 3 7:10 4
16 1. FC Kaiserslautern 5 0 3 2 4:7 3
17 SC Paderborn 5 0 2 3 0:4 2
18 Carl Zeiss Jena 5 0 1 4 7:11 1