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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:10 pm

    Advocaat 'in for Socceroos'



    By David Hall
    FOXSPORTS.com.au
    July 16, 2007
    DUTCHMAN Dick Advocaat looks set to replace under-fire Graham Arnold as Australia coach next year, according to media reports.
    Arnold is to remain with Football Federation Australia, most likely in a coaching role alongside technical director Rob Baan, until Advocaat is confirmed as the new national coach.
    The vastly experienced Advocaat, whose contract with Russian club Zenit St Petersburg expires later this year, was interviewed for the job in 2005, but compatriot Guus Hiddink was preferred to lead the Socceroos to the World Cup in Germany.
    But after Arnold's disastrous Asian Cup campaign, Advocaat has been tagged as the man to take Australia to the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, qualifying for which starts in June 2008.
    It is reported that FFA chairman Frank Lowy will fund Advocaat's wages, as the organisation's finances look to be stretched even further if the Socceroos crash out of the Asian Cup, a tournament they were tipped as favourites to win.


    Advocaat silent on Australia rumour

    Zenit St Petersburg coach Dick Advocaat refuses to comment on speculation linking him with Australia job. "I have a contract with Zenit till the end of the year. Then I'll decide where to go next," the former PSV, Rangers, Netherlands and South Korea boss said.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:13 pm

    You Dutchies better hope that he comes back to save Oranje from the claws of Van Basten. Compared to him, who often was (unfairly) criticised for his 'pragmatic' football philosophy, Van Basten is a Catenaccio advoca(a)te. Razz
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:15 pm

    We will talk further after we won the Euro's in 2008, ok?
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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:17 pm

    Haha...ok Ricardo. But I don't want to read through hundreds of pages of conspiracy theories if you don't. Nevermind, I do! Very Happy

    Advocaat reached the semi-final in 2004, let's see if Van Basten can repeat that. Would be a good start.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:18 pm

    They both lost against a strong Portugal!

    So he didn't do better or worse so far....


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    Post by DD Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:18 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:You Dutchies better hope that he comes back to save Oranje from the claws of Van Basten. Compared to him, who often was (unfairly) criticised for his 'pragmatic' football philosophy, Van Basten is a Catenaccio advoca(a)te. Razz
    ok

    Truth is, if Advocaat had pulle dany of thta Cr@p that Van Basten has, Advocaat would have barely been three weeks in charge. Nevermind after the WC Shocked (he would have had to flee the country again!).
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:23 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Haha...ok Ricardo. But I don't want to read through hundreds of pages of conspiracy theories if you don't. Nevermind, I do! :D

    Advocaat reached the semi-final in 2004, let's see if Van Basten can repeat that. Would be a good start.

    We reached almost every Euro's the Semis so Van Basten has to reach at least the semis if not he failed! Simple as that! Advocaat at least reached that target....

    But he is not a better coach than Van Basten. He has more expirience than Van Basten and is a good coach but he misses something to be a great coach

    And, Van Basten still has to prove it! We can't say he is good or bad at the moment because the Euro's is his his benchmark!


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    Post by DD Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:25 pm

    Van Basten failed when he couldn't even get us in the WC quarterfinal. Or play decent football.

    I have no interest in seeing him fail yet again.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:25 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:They both lost against a strong Portugal!

    So he didn't do better or worse so far....

    lol!

    Now that's what I call a great excuse for going out in the second round already, after you were boasting about repeating 1988 before the tournament started Ricardo.

    Beating Portugal at home in 2004 was actually much harder than last year.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:29 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:They both lost against a strong Portugal!

    So he didn't do better or worse so far....

    :lol!:

    Now that's what I call a great excuse for going out in the second round already, after you were boasting about repeating 1988 before the tournament started Ricardo.

    Beating Portugal at home in 2004 was actually much harder than last year.

    No excuse just a fact! I agree beating Portugal (should be much) harder than in Germany but then the squad was a lot less experience and quite young! (at the Euro's the Dutch had the second oldest squad; on the World Cup the Dutch had one of the youngest squads) I always said Van Basten can not to be judged on the WC results because that was more a "practise". His target is the Euro Championsships because he had to renew the team completely! And, that may take some time!
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    Post by DS Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:42 pm

    What makes you think Portugal (if you meet) wont kick you out again , they have grown stronger as well , Ronaldo , Quaresma maturing etc.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:18 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:What makes you think Portugal (if you meet) wont kick you out again , they have grown stronger as well , Ronaldo , Quaresma maturing etc.

    Portugal first have to qualify from their group , Serbia is hot on their tails.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:01 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:What makes you think Portugal (if you meet) wont kick you out again , they have grown stronger as well , Ronaldo , Quaresma maturing etc.

    Tactics.... change tactics!

    If Brasil can trash the "dream team" Argentina while the Argies were the "better" team why can't we beat the Portuguese?

    Our youngsters already beat the Portuguese! Now it's up to the big guys!
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    Post by DS Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:15 pm

    Didnt Portugese gave the Samba stars a beating?
    Sorry at moment (seen your lineups and Ruud will probably be a impact sub under Marco like Seedorf) Portugese are lot better but you never know.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:19 pm

    Portuguese aren't a lot stronger! But we are more or less even! But we have to get rid off the old tactics and we can beat them!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:06 pm

    Despite the crisis, Australia still through to the QF in the AFC!

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