HomeAfter reading the Koran Franck Ribéry decided to change his name into Bilal Ribéry.
I know he likes to make odd jokes, but is this for real?
I know he likes to make odd jokes, but is this for real?
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Bilal Ribéry
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Deano- Number of posts : 22042
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This is true...what a strange guy.
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Hasn't Anelka done the same?
Deano- Number of posts : 22042
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Abdul-Salam Bilal 
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
forza_rossi- Number of posts : 2563
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What is wrong with that?? As a muslim he felt he could've changed his name. Even though there is no such obligation, but most converts insist on changing thier names.Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Abdul-Salam Bilal :doh:
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
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forza_rossi wrote:What is wrong with that?? As a muslim he felt he could've changed his name. Even though there is no such obligation, but most converts insist on changing thier names.Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Abdul-Salam Bilal
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
What's the point if you're a footballer??
Who will ever know Anelka as Abdul-Salam Bilal?
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Why do they change their names? Is there a rule in the Koran that says if you're going to be muslim you need an Arabic name? 
forza_rossi- Number of posts : 2563
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Nah mate there isnt any rule or obligation of that sort. As i said earlier its just that they insist on chosing an arabic name. @ Deano , its just a personal thing i guess. Indeed no one will probably know him by his Islamic name but i believe his family will which is more important.Kimbo wrote:Why do they change their names? Is there a rule in the Koran that says if you're going to be muslim you need an Arabic name?
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Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
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Calidad wrote:Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
Cassius Clay is a better name tbh, don't know why he bothered changing it.
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Bilateral Ribery. His wife is Algerian by the way and when he speaks in French he has this strong ghetto accent. An accent similar to Arabic people when they speak French, which is really ugly and annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szw-eKGe1Rk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szw-eKGe1Rk
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Kimbo wrote:Calidad wrote:Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
Cassius Clay is a better name tbh, don't know why he bothered changing it.
Muhammad Ali sounds more triumphant
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He just couldnt pick any other name bet he doesnt know its meaning.
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DS- Number of posts : 12952
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By the way didnt knew he was a Muslim.
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Mexicanbecks wrote:Kimbo wrote:Calidad wrote:Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
Cassius Clay is a better name tbh, don't know why he bothered changing it.
Muhammad Ali sounds more triumphant
CC/MA said that he changed it because Cassius Clay was a slave name.
I must say if players really want to change their names its fine but they can't expect commentators or the public to remember it correctly
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Alive and Kicking wrote:Bilateral Ribery. His wife is Algerian by the way and when he speaks in French he has this strong ghetto accent. An accent similar to Arabic people when they speak French, which is really ugly and annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szw-eKGe1Rk
I just love it when he says "Moi jte nique ta mère direct".
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Dark Savante wrote:He just couldnt pick any other name bet he doesnt know its meaning.
I would say that since he chose from thousands of other possible names then he probably knows the meaning.
anyway you can google it and there's several different meanings, the one that makes most sense to him is:
Meaning: first convert of muhammad
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West Ham United wrote:forza_rossi wrote:What is wrong with that?? As a muslim he felt he could've changed his name. Even though there is no such obligation, but most converts insist on changing thier names.Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Abdul-Salam Bilal
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
What's the point if you're a footballer??
Who will ever know Anelka as Abdul-Salam Bilal?
here in Spain everybody seems quite surprised when they hear and didn't know that women usually change their last name to their husband's upon marrying in countries like England and Holland. That is probably quite normal to you since you are used to the practice. For Spanish people it appears to be a sign of male dominance in a marriage, since they are unfamiliar with it, it seems ridiculous. Perhaps we should be more understanding to certain practices, at least to ones that are so decidedly harmless.
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toon h wrote:West Ham United wrote:forza_rossi wrote:What is wrong with that?? As a muslim he felt he could've changed his name. Even though there is no such obligation, but most converts insist on changing thier names.Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Abdul-Salam Bilal
Always knew Anelka was a c**t...
What's the point if you're a footballer??
Who will ever know Anelka as Abdul-Salam Bilal?
here in Spain everybody seems quite surprised when they hear and didn't know that women usually change their last name to their husband's upon marrying in countries like England and Holland. That is probably quite normal to you since you are used to the practice. For Spanish people it appears to be a sign of male dominance in a marriage, since they are unfamiliar with it, it seems ridiculous. Perhaps we should be more understanding to certain practices, at least to ones that are so decidedly harmless.
I think women are changing their names less now in many european countries, but what about the kids what surname do they take in spain?
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people in Spain have two surnames. The first one is usually the father's first surname and the second one the mother's first surname.
I sometimes retort to Spanish people's complaints that the name-changing is "machismo", by saying women carry two surnames: their father's and their grandfather's (on the mother's side).
I sometimes retort to Spanish people's complaints that the name-changing is "machismo", by saying women carry two surnames: their father's and their grandfather's (on the mother's side).
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toon h wrote:people in Spain have two surnames. The first one is usually the father's first surname and the second one the mother's first surname.
I sometimes retort to Spanish people's complaints that the name-changing is "machismo", by saying women carry two surnames: their father's and their grandfather's (on the mother's side).
That's the irony though. Even though last names work this way in Spain and Latin America, people in these countries are more "machistas" than the Europeans from countries like England and Holland. In Spain women are still widely seen as belonging in the house, taking care of the kids, and cooking and so on. It's not that women aren't independent, but their role in society is still seen through "machismo" eyes to some extent.
In Holland for example, it is normal to see a lot of cases where the woman works and the guy stays at home believe it or not
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my sister's husband has taken on her last name, believe it or not! 
in any case, I think women in Spain are becoming quickly emancipated. The problem is that men are traditionally so useless at cooking etc. that if a woman is to have any decent meal she has to make it herself!
in any case, I think women in Spain are becoming quickly emancipated. The problem is that men are traditionally so useless at cooking etc. that if a woman is to have any decent meal she has to make it herself!
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Rasiak-9 wrote:Mexicanbecks wrote:Kimbo wrote:Calidad wrote:Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
Cassius Clay is a better name tbh, don't know why he bothered changing it.
Muhammad Ali sounds more triumphant
CC/MA said that he changed it because Cassius Clay was a slave name.
I must say if players really want to change their names its fine but they can't expect commentators or the public to remember it correctly
Interestingly enough, the Cassius Clay who Ali was named after (like his father) was actually an abolitionist politician, related to the more famous Henry Clay. It doesn't change things to a great extent, Ali was rejecting a past based in slavery by rejecting a 'white' name, as did most other members of the Nation of Islam.
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No that is not its meaning it is not Arabic , it come from one of the Sudanish languages and also has forms in Sinhalese.110% wrote:Dark Savante wrote:He just couldnt pick any other name bet he doesnt know its meaning.
I would say that since he chose from thousands of other possible names then he probably knows the meaning.
anyway you can google it and there's several different meanings, the one that makes most sense to him is:
Meaning: first convert of muhammad
It meaning varies from dialect to dialect from water, vapours ,moisture and in other beauty of a full moon , beauty etc.
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Mexicanbecks wrote:Kimbo wrote:Calidad wrote:Well how do we all refer to the greatest boxer of all time? Not his birth name, that's for sure.
Cassius Clay is a better name tbh, don't know why he bothered changing it.
Muhammad Ali sounds more triumphant
Cassius or Muhammed, Cassius or Muhammed? I know which i'd rather have.
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