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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:56 pm

    I know this should have probably gone on the International board, but I wanted more vigorous debate on the topic. What a sack of $h!t:

    Domenech’s Italian accusation
    Thursday 9 August, 2007
    France Coach Raymond Domenech has stirred controversy ahead of Les Blues’ Euro 2008 qualifier against Italy by making match-fixing allegations against the Azzurrini.

    The Azzurri face France at the San Siro on September 8 amid fears that they will be rusty after just two weeks of the Serie A campaign.

    It promises to be a tense affair with memories of last summer’s World Cup Final still fresh in the mind and Domenech has fanned the flames with accusations of corruption.

    “The main problem could be the referees, but that’s often the problem with Italy,” he told Le Parisien.

    “In the past there have been rigged games like the France v Italy Under-21 qualifier for the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney.

    "They had bought the ref and the cheating was incredible. If it happens once you have doubts, but there are hidden agreements in Italian football.”

    Equally surprisingly, the Lyon-born tactician was full of praise for the controversial Marco Materazzi who was on the receiving end of the Zinedine Zidane head-butt that turned the Berlin Final around.

    “He scored, he got his best opponent sent off and he converted his penalty. He was the star of the Final, not Andrea Pirlo,” the 55-year-old continued.

    “It’s not about insults, but provoking someone until they boil over. It happens in every sport, even volleyball across the net. On the pitch any way you can unbalance the opponent and exploit their weaknesses benefits your team.

    “Whoever provokes shows strength, whoever reacts shows weakness.

    "As a Coach I want my players to give the English response and give compliments after the game regardless of the insults during it.”

    Domenech was also keen to underline his resepct for Italian football.

    "You can say whatever you like, but the Italians have exceptional players and I admire them," he admitted.

    "They play the most efficient football in Europe, perhaps the world, and I like it.

    "We'll see who the great players are at the San Siro with 80,000 whistling fans," he concluded.


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    Domenech faces sanctions over match-fixing allegations

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    French coach Raymond Domenech gives a press conference, June 2007. UEFA president Michel Platini on Friday demanded that Domenech provide proof of his allegations of match-fixing or face sanctions from European football´s governing body.
    French coach Raymond Domenech gives a press conference, June 2007. UEFA president Michel Platini on Friday demanded that Domenech provide proof of his allegations of match-fixing or face sanctions from European football´s governing body.
    PARIS (AFP) - UEFA president Michel Platini on Friday demanded that France coach Raymond Domenech provide proof of his allegations of match-fixing or face sanctions from European football's governing body.

    In an interview with French daily Le Parisien this week Domenech alluded to "a referee being bought" during a tie between France and Italy's under-21 sides in 1999. Domenech was coach of the French team at the time.

    But European football boss Platini insisted that his countryman would be charged with unsporting behaviour if he does not back up his allegations.

    "We're going to send a letter to the French federation so that Mr Domenech provides us with proof of what he says, and if there is no proof we will penalize him," warned Platini.
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    Post by DeLux Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:58 pm

    Good. Fucking c**t. I hope Italy batter them.
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    Post by Deano Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:27 pm

    c**t. He's so fucking outspoken. He is literally Arnaud. A stupid $h!t spouting frog twat who can't keep his mouth shut.

    I would love to just completely hammer the c**ts. Whenever Italy or England play them I feel the hatred come through.
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    Post by Napoléon Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:59 am

    Agree he has been $h!t.
    But I agree too with him about the U21 game wich was scandalous, but that's past and he should not have made a link with the next game.
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    Post by DeLux Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:42 pm

    I remember that after the World Cup game he accused the Spanish fans of racially abusing the French players. Funnily enough there was no proof of this. The same with the Zidane incident.
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    Post by EMP Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:01 pm

    @ Samba. Apparently Domenech got away with the accusation against Spanish supporters because he made it in the media. Neither he nor the French FA made an official complaint about it and without it FIFA didn't investigate it. Effing travesty. FIFA should have demanded proof and if it wasn't forthcoming Domenech have received a ban. Typical FIFA bullshit though!
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    Post by bluenine Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:56 pm

    Its people like him that give France a bad name... really stupid and insensitive thing to say, specially after the scandal.

    EMP wrote:@ Samba. Apparently Domenech got away with the accusation against Spanish supporters because he made it in the media. Neither he nor the French FA made an official complaint about it and without it FIFA didn't investigate it. Effing travesty. FIFA should have demanded proof and if it wasn't forthcoming Domenech have received a ban. Typical FIFA bullshit though!
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    Post by lampiao007 Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:19 pm

    When you have players calling "Animals" to opponents before a WC semi final, and a coach that calls "divers" to other players,but applauds cheating on his own team, and in the end of a game states "I've f**** you again", what do you expect?
    It has been a long time comming.
    No to mention the comments after the Zidane incident....
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    Post by lampiao007 Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:15 pm

    Ah, yes, I forgot that Domenech is still cross also with Portugal after our U-21 kicked their overinflated ego stars 1-3 in France a few years back
    He complained of the referee,God, the Devil, Napoleon, you name it.
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    Post by Tarun Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:07 am

    He should be immediately sacked as the coach of the French Int'l team...he's getting them a bad name.
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    Post by Napoléon Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:45 am

    lampiao007 wrote:Ah, yes, I forgot that Domenech is still cross also with Portugal after our U-21 kicked their overinflated ego stars 1-3 in France a few years back
    He complained of the referee,God, the Devil, Napoleon, you name it.

    It was 2-1 and the most scandalous refereeing I have never seen.
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    Post by lampiao007 Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:11 pm

    No, it was 3-1, France had won 2-1 in Portugal
    And the only scandolous thing was France finishing only with 10
    The amount of fouls and dirty play of your team was ridiculous to say the least
    Lets not even talk about the behaviour of Mr Domenech after the game ended, and what he said afterwards
    Stark contrast whith the inflated Ego before the game in France and after the one in Portugal
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    Post by Napoléon Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:25 pm

    lampiao007 wrote:No, it was 3-1, France had won 2-1 in Portugal
    And the only scandolous thing was France finishing only with 10
    The amount of fouls and dirty play of your team was ridiculous to say the least
    Lets not even talk about the behaviour of Mr Domenech after the game ended, and what he said afterwards
    Stark contrast whith the inflated Ego before the game in France and after the one in Portugal

    No no, Portugal wons 2-1 (4-1 on penalty shots - Mexes and Evra missed). Cissé deserved to be send off, that's not the problem. Another portuguese player did exactly the same foul than Cissé on Mexès and the referee give a yellow card to Mexès. In extra time, the referee wrongfully disallowed a clearly goal of Sinama Pongolle after a big mistake of the goalkeeper. During penalty shot, Penneteau (the french gk) saved a goal but the referee make the player taking back his shot.
    After their victory, Portuguese player destroyed the player changing room of the stadium.
    Whatever you think, this game was awful, the refereing scandalous. I'm happy if Portugal could play Olympic Games even if they were eliminated by Saudi Arabia.
    Now that's past, Domenech should not have talk about the game against Italy. Platini was right to talk about the possibility of a punishment.
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    Post by Luso Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:33 am

    The FPF has asked Uefa/Fifa to look into this as they've taken it as a personal attack on the ref in questin from the France-Italy match was Portuguese.
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    Post by Tarun Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:04 pm

    Trez slams Domenech rant
    Monday 13 August, 2007
    Juventus striker David Trezeguet has hit out at France Coach Raymond Domenech for his controversial indictment of Italian football.

    Domenech stunned the football world last week when he claimed that the Italian game was ‘full of secret agreements’.

    He also stated that the Azzurrini’s triumph over France’s Under-21 side in qualifying for the 2000 Olympics had been the result of biased refereeing.

    Trezeguet has never seen eye to eye with Domenech and told La Stampa that the ex-Lyon tactician’s comments were a disgrace.

    “I read what he said and my God I was annoyed,” Trez stated. “What a disgrace. By talking like that, Domenech has damaged the country of France and most of all the world of football. He talks for the sake of talking.

    “He hasn’t picked me since February. If he selects me against Slovakia on August 22 then good, but if not I’ll be patient.”

    Having vented his spleen at Domenech, the Juve hitman took the chance to insist that the Old Lady should not be discounted from the Scudetto race.

    “On paper, Inter and Milan have more than us,” he admitted.

    “But that’s only on paper. We are ready to compete and after everything that has happened we have a will to win that other sides can only dream of.”
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    Post by Napoléon Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:02 pm

    Apparently, Trezegol doesn't want to come back to French national team.
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    Post by SuperMario Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:20 pm

    Great they charge him, but

    why just him? he's not the only one making such acquisations without any backup.

    For example, recently:

    Portuguese U21 manager: "UEFA biassed in favour of Northern countries"

    Italy knocked out of WC2002 because of conspiracy, etc.
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    Post by Tarun Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:13 am

    Napoléon wrote:Apparently, Trezegol doesn't want to come back to French national team.
    If Domenech decides not to pick Trez then it's further proof that he wants to bring down the Int'l team...apart from all this slander
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    Post by bluenine Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:28 am

    I think Domenech has consistantly ignored Treze thru-out his tenure. Which is rather silly, coz France really miss a goal poacher and Treze is perfect for that role.

    TarunDang wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:Apparently, Trezegol doesn't want to come back to French national team.
    If Domenech decides not to pick Trez then it's further proof that he wants to bring down the Int'l team...apart from all this slander
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    Post by lampiao007 Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:18 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:Great they charge him, but

    why just him? he's not the only one making such acquisations without any backup.

    For example, recently:

    Portuguese U21 manager: "UEFA biassed in favour of Northern countries"

    Italy knocked out of WC2002 because of conspiracy, etc.

    He has since been sacked fro the job. Via SMS i must add.
    But in Couceiro's case, it was more him trying to defend is inability of coaching than anithing else. He did not left many friends in Portugal
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:22 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:

    Italy knocked out of WC2002 because of conspiracy, etc.

    They'll never go after the Italians : they've learned from 2002 and now have bought all the officials at UEFA *and* FIFA !

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:26 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:
    jonathan de guzman wrote:

    Italy knocked out of WC2002 because of conspiracy, etc.

    They'll never go after the Italians : they've learned from 2002 and now have bought all the officials at UEFA *and* FIFA !

    Whistle

    You can't possibly still be bitter about how Italy broke Dutch hearts at Euro2000 and with Hiddink recently.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:29 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    You can't possibly still be bitter about how Italy broke Dutch hearts at Euro2000 and with Hiddink recently.

    I have no problems with Italy over Euro2000 (I do with our own penalty takers though Wink), but I will not soon forget the Schwalbe against Australia.

    Not to mention the numerous scandels in Italian football, bribing officials, matches getting specific refs assigned etc. etc. : to me personally all scudettos have become worthless.

    Milan in the CL showed the true value and class of Serie A though Ale
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    Post by bluenine Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:03 pm

    Domenech seems to have pissed off even the mild mannered tinkerman Wink

    “Domenech has never won anything, neither with the Under-21 side nor French senior side and yet he still talks,” Ranieri concluded. “Who is he to poke his nose into our affairs?”
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    Post by Napoléon Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:46 pm

    bluenine wrote:Domenech seems to have pissed off even the mild mannered tinkerman Wink

    “Domenech has never won anything, neither with the Under-21 side nor French senior side and yet he still talks,” Ranieri concluded. “Who is he to poke his nose into our affairs?”

    He reached the world cup final...not bad at all.
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    Post by DeLux Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:23 pm

    Yeah, with Thuram, Zidane, Henry, Makelele, Vieira. When these players retire we'll see how good a manager Domenech is.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:25 pm

    The French in general and Domenech in particular can't digest the defeat. They can't digest that only because of the Clairefontaine generation French football was able to muster a flash in the pan. They can't digest that their celebrated thug single-handedly sabotaged their chance of glory. They can't digest that they have only a quarter of the history of Italian football, even if we count Marseille's Champions League 'win'.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:42 pm

    Domenech relishing chance to back up match-fixing claims

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    France coach Raymond Domenech, seen here in March 2007, has insisted that he was relishing the chance to back up his recent allegations of match-fixing in Italy before European football´s governing body UEFA.
    France coach Raymond Domenech, seen here in March 2007, has insisted that he was relishing the chance to back up his recent allegations of match-fixing in Italy before European football´s governing body UEFA.
    PARIS (AFP) - France coach Raymond Domenech insisted Thursday that he was relishing the chance to back up his recent allegations of match-fixing in Italy before European football's governing body UEFA.

    Domenech alluded last week to "a referee being bought" during a tie between France and Italy's under-21 sides in 1999 when he was coach of the French team.

    UEFA president Michel Platini has demanded that his countryman provide proof of his allegations or face sanctions.

    And Domenech said that he was looking forward to the opportunity.

    "UEFA have demanded an investigation and I have to respond, I'm going to write and will go before them with pleasure. I've even bought a tie (for the occasion). I don't have the date yet," Domenech told a press conference.

    "Out of respect it's only normal that I reserve what I have to say for those who have to study this dossier. I'm not a UEFA judge, the only thing I'm afraid of is losing a match, nothing else worries me."

    In the interview last week Domenech said: "It is not me who invented the refereeing sagas in Italy...There are arrangements made in Italian football."

    Platini insisted that 55-year-old Domenech would be charged with unsporting behaviour if he does not back up his allegations.

    France will travel to Italy for their second encounter with the 'Azzurri' in the Euro 2008 qualification stage on September 8, having won the first match 3-1 on home soil last year.

    France, who lost the World Cup final last year to the Italians, currently lead Group B of European qualifiers, two points ahead of Italy in second place with Scotland a further point adrift in third.
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    Post by Napoléon Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:16 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:The French in general and Domenech in particular can't digest the defeat. They can't digest that only because of the Clairefontaine generation French football was able to muster a flash in the pan. They can't digest that their celebrated thug single-handedly sabotaged their chance of glory. They can't digest that they have only a quarter of the history of Italian football, even if we count Marseille's Champions League 'win'.

    Please, stop amalgam. You denounce arrogance, but you are arrogant yourself.
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    Post by Deano Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:19 pm

    France are $h!t. When will everyone realise this. Ligue 1 is nothing other than Lyon and about 2/3 other teams like Marseille.

    Domenech is a knob...you might get annoyed Napoleon, but some of us will be pissed off by his comments. He's a twat.

    He was even spouting his mouth off about us signing Faubert too.

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