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    Post by Super Progress Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:03 am

    a rather boring game.of course couldnt expect much since both are still in pre season but it was still worse then i thought. anyway deserved win for sevilla and they should have added a goal or two. as for Real i defo saw some progress in the football as they combined better esp in centre but it was still a bit rusty and they didnt create chances enough. it was also clear that robino got a lot more free role and the team was higher on the pitch. but i think it will take atleast 5-10 games before it clicks or maybe longer. a key thing for us will be when ruud is fit since we then have a player upfront who can hold the ball.
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    Post by Mexicanbecks Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:09 am

    Sevilla 1-0 Real Madrid

    The Spanish Super Cup will be decided at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium

    Sevilla won the first leg of the Spanish Super Cup, but Real Madrid deserved a more favourable result. Schuster's team gave a good image in the second half of a game that was fought mainly in midfield. The Santiago Bernabéu will host the second leg in eight days.

    The first few minutes of the clash were filled with uncertainty as both teams tried to find their own space on the pitch. Sevilla were the first to have a chance on goal (3') with a good shot by Luis Fabiano that Iker Casillas managed to save. Guti acted as playmaker and helped his team find its own ground and gradually reach Palop's goal more frequently. Raúl was tackled inside the box on the 8-minute mark in a one-on-one against Sevilla's keeper, after receiving the ball from a deflection on a local defender.

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    Despite the impressive atmosphere at the Sánchez Pizjuán Stadium Real Madrid ke`t going, with Guti and Robinho controlling their team's attack in midfield and down the left wing, respectively. The Brazilian was the most dangerous man for Sevilla's defenders, particularly for Dani Alves, who wasn't too focused on the game in the opening minutes. In the 13th minute, Fabio Cannavaro had a good chance on goal from a rehearsed set piece by Guti, who, moments later, took part in the team's best play of the first half by coming close to scoring a goal with a volley from a cross by Ramos. Real Madrid continued having chances on goal, but Ramos tackled Duda inside the box in the 26th minute and a penalty was awarded to Sevilla; Luis Fabiano scored the opening goal from it.

    ||El Real Madrid cayó en el Sánchez Pizjuán (1-0) en un partido trabado||
    The Whites' next important chance of scoring came from another set piece. Guti sent the ball to the barrier, but he got hold of it again and had another try at scoring, but the ball grazed the far post. Sevilla had many chances on Casillas' goal before half time.

    Whites dominate second half
    Bernd Schuster's team continued playing along the same lines in the last 45 minutes, attacking down the wings with Robinho distributing their game at all times. Their first two chances in the second half again came from set pieces taken by Guti. Pepe came close to scoring from the first and Ramos had a good chance in the second.

    In order to get more chances, Schuster decided to make some changes. Baptista replaced Gago and proved dangerous as an attacking midfielder. Sevilla slowed down their game and Real Madrid continued attacking. The Whites played better in the second half despite having less chances, and Saviola -who replaced Balboa-, Baptista and Raúl shined in attack.


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    The last chances of the game were for Diarra -who created trouble for Sevilla's entire defence with a good shot- and Raúl. In the end, Sevilla won the game. Real Madrid will now have to come back from this defeat in the second leg at the Santiago Bernabéu next weekend.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:13 am

    Gotta love the website version.Very Happy
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    Post by golsud Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:44 am

    cheers

    Not a great result as Madriz (the fluke luck meisters) could remontar the result thanks to some flukey/lucky/ref help goals.

    Anyways any match that Mierdiz loses is a good one <Ale>
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    Post by Torrente Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:04 am

    I didn't get to see the game. I went to a bar that had Sky on it and the bartender couldn't find the game anywhere Rolling Eyes Did Sky actually show it?

    Was Schuster dumb enough to play Raul as a lone striker? affraid I'm starting to get worried here.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:56 am

    wasn't on sky
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:53 am

    Didn't see the game. Neither team played that well?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:58 am

    http://www.rojadirecta.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=22839

    brief highlights for torrente and ncfc
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:11 am

    Looks like Sevilla were pretty strong first half, and then shite second according to these, which allowed Madrid a few chances to get back into the game, which they couldn't take....fair result?
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    Post by Torrente Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:36 am

    I find it strange that Schuster didn't put Soldado in. Unfortunately, it looks like Schuster doesn't trust Soldado at all. I thought that Soldado was meant to start as our number 9 whenever Ruud was out, while Raul, Saviola, Higuain, and Baptista competed for the media punta position.

    Instead, Schuster chose to play Raul as a lone striker (which he's horrible at) and later chose to play with Raul-Saviola instead of putting Soldado in. I know it's quite early to determine if this is what Schuster thinks, but if he can't trust Soldado for the less important games like the Super Copa, will he trust him in the league?
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    Post by TM Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:05 am

    Just watched some highlights.

    The penalty was a bit harsh, Renato goes to shoot and his leg catches Ramos, he gets the shot off before falling over.

    In attack we look v poor, although we have the likes of Drenthe and other players yet to come in, it's a bit too late to accomdate players and build a XI, someone mentioned we need 5-10 games to gel together thats far too much and the likes of Barca and Sevilla will have left us behind.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:13 am

    sevilla will do fook all this season
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:16 am

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:sevilla will do fook all this season

    Still think they will finish above Atleti.
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    Post by Torrente Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:18 am

    NCFC wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:sevilla will do fook all this season

    Still think they will finish above Atleti.

    10th spot would be a massive failure for Sevilla though, despite finishing higher than Atletico Cool
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    Post by TM Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:21 am

    Torrente wrote:
    NCFC wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:sevilla will do fook all this season

    Still think they will finish above Atleti.

    10th spot would be a massive failure for Sevilla though, despite finishing higher than Atletico Cool

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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:26 am

    lol!

    Frank won't appreciate that!
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:42 am

    SHITE last season finished 7th, so a half decent season will see us top 4
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:46 am

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:SHITE last season finished 7th, so a half decent season will see us top 4

    I think the fourth spot will be pretty open, although I still think Sevilla will get it. So assuming that the top 3 are made up of Barca, Madrid and Valencia. In which ways do you see the current Atleti side to be stronger than the likes of Sevilla, Zaragoza and Villarreal.
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    Post by Calidad Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:19 pm

    1)Barca
    2)Valencia
    3)Madrid
    4)Atleti
    5)Villarreal
    6)Sevilla
    7)Zaragoza

    I think that's how it will finish.
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:21 pm

    Calidad wrote:1)Barca
    2)Valencia
    3)Madrid
    4)Atleti
    5)Villarreal
    6)Sevilla
    7)Zaragoza

    I think that's how it will finish.

    My top three exactly. I think fourth will be fought over by Zaragoza and Sevilla, with Atleti in sixth and then Villarreal seventh.
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    Post by TM Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:32 pm

    We'll win the Champions Leauge and finish Second Ale
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:35 pm

    TM wrote:We'll win the Champions Leauge and finish Second Ale

    To Barcelona or Valencia?
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    Post by Rosicky Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:36 pm

    Why does everyone think Sevilla will be $h!t this season?
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    Post by TM Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:39 pm

    NCFC wrote:
    TM wrote:We'll win the Champions Leauge and finish Second Ale

    To Barcelona or Valencia?

    Barca.


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    Post by Calidad Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:39 pm

    Rosicky wrote:Why does everyone think Sevilla will be $h!t this season?

    I think Sevilla overachieved last season (Kanoute & Alvez in particular). The only player in their side I expect to play even better this season will be Puerta who is class IMO. I just don't think they'll do half as well this season, but just a hunch. Villarreal & Atleti have also considerably strengthened.
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    Post by NCFC Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:50 pm

    Puerta is a quality player as you say Calidad. Alves was the big over achiever, but they will still be strong if he were to move away or drop in form. For me, Poulsen was also hugely important last season and they need another huge performance from him if they are to acheive. I fully expect them to make the knock out stages of the CL, they are still one of the best sides in Europe, its just that there are three at the least that are even stronger in La Liga!
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:56 pm

    NCFC wrote:Puerta is a quality player as you say Calidad. Alves was the big over achiever, but they will still be strong if he were to move away or drop in form. For me, Poulsen was also hugely important last season and they need another huge performance from him if they are to acheive. I fully expect them to make the knock out stages of the CL, they are still one of the best sides in Europe, its just that there are three at the least that are even stronger in La Liga!
    the key for them in CL will be poulsen imo. he is the stable part in their team. a new makelele and on par with masherano imo. their high tempo game will also help them in europe so i dont think they will fail there but can they keep up in la liga, i doubt it. zaragoza or villarreal will take it.
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    Post by fcb Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:57 pm

    Saw the first half, Sevilla deserved to win. They weren't great but Madrid were worse. Schuster showed up with some bollocks tactic of playing just 1 up front, and when that 1 is Raul, you're effectively playing with 10 men and no striker. He couldn't even round the keeper and finish a 1 v. 1


    And Sergio Ramos must have given every ref in the league a great blowjob, because the amount of dirty fouls by him that go uncarded are unbeliveable.
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    Post by TM Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:59 pm

    kas wrote:Saw the first half, Sevilla deserved to win. They weren't great but Madrid were worse. Schuster showed up with some bollocks tactic of playing just 1 up front, and when that 1 is Raul, you're effectively playing with 10 men and no striker. He couldn't even round the keeper and finish a 1 v. 1


    And Sergio Ramos must have given every ref in the league a great blowjob, because the amount of dirty fouls by him that go uncarded are unbeliveable.

    Yeah thats why the ref gave the PK against him Doh
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    Post by Torrente Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:01 pm

    TM wrote:
    kas wrote:Saw the first half, Sevilla deserved to win. They weren't great but Madrid were worse. Schuster showed up with some bollocks tactic of playing just 1 up front, and when that 1 is Raul, you're effectively playing with 10 men and no striker. He couldn't even round the keeper and finish a 1 v. 1


    And Sergio Ramos must have given every ref in the league a great blowjob, because the amount of dirty fouls by him that go uncarded are unbeliveable.

    Yeah thats why the ref gave the PK against him Doh

    Not to mention a "dodgy" PK.

    But from what I read, Ramos was $h!t yesterday. Apparently he almost got into a fight with Robinho as well, after Robinho told him to wake up.

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