Scholes, Fabregas, Lampard, Gerrard

1)Gerrard (this season he will recapture his POTY award)
2)Scholes
3)Flump
4)Fab

COTR wrote:1)Gerrard (this season he will recapture his POTY award)
2)Scholes
3)Flump
4)Fab

At least Ronaldo deserved it when he won it

Parks lives wrote:

anyone else want to LOL for no reason ????

Its really hard to tell when Chelsea have only faced week midfields with their new 442 formation. Chelsea fans have already mentioned that Lampard has been the wrong side on useless (thank you Hansen) in general play but his goal has saved him the criticism he deserves. If Chelsea continue to play Lampard in a 442 I think the team will struggle defensively and offensively.
They will struggle offensively because he cannot play short passing football and therefore messes up many of the attacks. They will struggle defensively because he gives the ball away when his makes yet another bad long ball or when he inevitably gets caught in possession.
One great thing for Lampard is that he has wingers and a striker in Drogba who will fight for every longball so they will still keep many of the bad balls in play for him.

I personally still don't trust Gerrard in CM and he still hasn't impressed me for a while. Though he does seem more comfortable there than before, his partnership with Alonso does not look so solid. If Gerrard plays CM I would always play Mascherano who has more physical qualities than Alonso.

Scholes looks to be continuing his form from last season and looks as composed as ever. His partnership with Hargreaves should work instantly. Carrick looks very weak and should be dropped as soon as Hargreaves is ready.

Cesc is vital to our passing game, however he does seem a bit weaker than last year. It maybe because he was ill towards the end of pre-season and/or because he is playing with Flamini who is just a workhorse and not a particularly solid one at that. Once Gilberto or one of Denilson and Diaby get back he may have more influence.

At first I voted for Cesc because he is entirely necessary to the way we play, however I would now change it to Scholes.

IMO Arteta should be on the list and he would get my vote.

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

anyone else want to LOL for no reason ????

And again

Tough call...I would have gone for Kuyt but he is not there....Seriously, it has to be Scholes the only English player of the last 10 year that could rival with his continental counterparts

Gary Cooper is a legend

You know perfectly well Gerrard didn't deserve it that year, despite his 8 goals vs Total Network Solutions and the like.

Parks lives wrote:
A real rival with Berbatov for best player outside the top 4.

Apparently, it will be Santa Cruz by the way things are going. I'll be laughing for months for sure if it happens though.

Cue "the Paraguayan sensation" headlines soon.

COTR wrote:1)Gerrard (this season he will recapture his POTY award)
2)Scholes
3)Flump
4)Fab

did u see his second half display vs reading? he was just everywhere and was superb!

Agooner wrote:

COTR wrote:1)Gerrard (this season he will recapture his POTY award)
2)Scholes
3)Flump
4)Fab

did u see his second half display vs reading? he was just everywhere and was superb!

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not


however anything uselful the flump ever does I simply erase from my memory

I am not being sarcastic. he was really good, was very very impressed by him. maybe some chelsea fans would tell u more about his performance.

Agooner wrote:

COTR wrote:1)Gerrard (this season he will recapture his POTY award)
2)Scholes
3)Flump
4)Fab

did u see his second half display vs reading? he was just everywhere and was superb!

With 10 men for 20 mins. Lets see him in a 442 against a solid upper-midtable team.

Agooner probably misses defending Henry, so switching over to Lampard, another player who gets a lot of stick on this board, is an act of compensation.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like he played well. I'm sure if he scores the winner on Sunday that you might not be able to instantly 'erase the memory' COTR

scholes

manu without scholes is nothing worth, the most imporant player for manu

Deisler wrote:scholes

manu without scholes is nothing worth, the most imporant player for manu

Not entirely accurate, eventually Scholes will retire, as did Cantona, Keane, Becks leaving etc...

The team then has to change its style to accomodate a new player, which i feel is why they have bought Hargreaves, he will allow Carrick to focus on retaining the ball.

Deisler wrote:scholes

manu without scholes is nothing worth, the most imporant player for manu

without scholes while he was blinded man u actually recovered their EPL form after the barren few years of horrid football

Can Lrd and co confirm the validity of this ???

I even know you know that's rubbish.

Just Ruud being replaced by Saha and Keane and Scholes out of the team come with a different way of playing.

Instead of a rigid 4-3-3 we returned to an attacking 4-4-2.

Well there can be reasons for it i guess, but how he played last year he was not at that level in the previous 2-3 years i would say.

At the beginning of the season he got that eye injury, he was dreadful, but playing next to Smith is not easy i guess.

You might as well have asked which team do you support, and got a similar response!

bluenine wrote:You might as well have asked which team do you support, and got a similar response!

So who do you think?

L.r.d wrote:

bluenine wrote:You might as well have asked which team do you support, and got a similar response!

So who do you think?

fabregas

COTR wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

anyone else want to LOL for no reason ????

And another:




How do you like them apples?



The answer to the question is 'whoever's team wins the important trophies this season'. That's how history works - wait for an event to happen, then earmark heroes. For all humanity's attempts to turn this dynamic around, it won't happen.

But probably Lampard. Gets Chelsea out of holes quite often, has a good (but not stunning) record in the big games.

Agooner wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

bluenine wrote:You might as well have asked which team do you support, and got a similar response!

So who do you think?

fabregas

Agooner only said this because he can't spell the names of the players from clubs other than Arsenal...

Football Genius wrote:Scholes is without a doubt my favourite player in the world.

He for me is a footballing genius, his vision is incredible, passing usually spot on, has a fabulous shot, and is a real winner.

Only really in the last sort of 5 years has he really shone through for me, prior to that he was a striker and then a second striker, but he has excelled in midfield as a playmaker

I doubt he'll have the most impact out of the 4, but he will definately be the unsung hero whilst the other 3 will be grabbing all the headlines, but i'd watch Scholes all day when hes on song.

Off subject like always... Would you say the Scholes and Gerrard would be the axis to building a great England midfield from 2002 on?

They could of been before..

a) Lampard came along
b) Gerrard wanted to be an all action midfielder

Brian2468 wrote:

Football Genius wrote:Scholes is without a doubt my favourite player in the world.

He for me is a footballing genius, his vision is incredible, passing usually spot on, has a fabulous shot, and is a real winner.

Only really in the last sort of 5 years has he really shone through for me, prior to that he was a striker and then a second striker, but he has excelled in midfield as a playmaker

I doubt he'll have the most impact out of the 4, but he will definately be the unsung hero whilst the other 3 will be grabbing all the headlines, but i'd watch Scholes all day when hes on song.

Off subject like always... Would you say the Scholes and Gerrard would be the axis to building a great England midfield from 2002 on?

I think they are better suited now than back in 2002 when together they forged that unbeaten partnership where Gerrard would sit and Scholes would venture forward. I think now you could have Scholes as a deep lying play maker, with Gerrard bombing up and down the pitch.

Naturally against better opposition they may come unstuck, but against the vast majority of opponents this would work very well, especially if we use 'proper' wingers to stretch the park through the centre.