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    Scholes, Fabregas, Lampard, Gerrard

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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:32 pm

    Which central midfielder will have the greatest impact for there team this season? (not who is the best player).




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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:34 pm

    Remove Fabregas and Scholes out of this and we have a truly interesting thread!
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    Post by Batman Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:39 pm

    no Essien?
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:40 pm

    I was going with the attacking midfielders.
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:42 pm

    Arteta ok
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:42 pm

    Difficult to say really, it depends what criteria you judge by. Fabregas and Gerrard are probably the most integral to how their teams play. Lampard contributes the most in terms of goals, which can't just be dismissed because he is a less-capable footballer than the rest, and Scholes is just class. I'm sitting on the fence for this one, I can't decide.
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    Post by Batman Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:43 pm

    I think Lampard and Gerrard will do more attacking than Scholes and Fabregas because of the roles they play in the team.

    At this moment i would say Lampard but he could have a problem if Ballack is back in the team.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:48 pm

    Using Giggs (1-2 years older than Scholes) as an example I do worry that either this season or next season Scholes will start to become a lot less consistent, which is natural being 33/34.

    Gerrard and Lampard despite the flak are big players for both there clubs. With Cesc if he was able to get his shooting sorted he could really make a difference for Arsenal, hard to tell at this stage though.
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:51 pm

    Scholes is without a doubt my favourite player in the world.

    He for me is a footballing genius, his vision is incredible, passing usually spot on, has a fabulous shot, and is a real winner.

    Only really in the last sort of 5 years has he really shone through for me, prior to that he was a striker and then a second striker, but he has excelled in midfield as a playmaker ok

    I doubt he'll have the most impact out of the 4, but he will definately be the unsung hero whilst the other 3 will be grabbing all the headlines, but i'd watch Scholes all day when hes on song.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:52 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Gerrard and Lampard despite the flak are big players for both there clubs. With Cesc if he was able to get his shooting sorted he could really make a difference for Arsenal, hard to tell at this stage though.

    Good finish from him last night. Hopefully he won't go virtually a whole season without scoring again this time around.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:55 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:Arteta ok
    agreed.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:56 pm

    Arteta was faboulous on Tuesday.

    A real rival with Berbatov for best player outside the top 4.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:59 pm

    Fabregas and Gerrard.

    Fab - will add more goals to his game and will lead us to CL glory.

    Gerrard - this will be his season.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:02 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Arteta was faboulous on Tuesday.

    A real rival with Berbatov for best player outside the top 4.

    Martins is better than Berbatov.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:04 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Yes I'm bored.

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    Post by Tweesus Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:10 pm

    When you look at Man Utd, their most important players are Ronaldo, followed by Scholes, Rooney and Rio IMO.

    When you look at Liverpool, their most important player is Gerrard. By miles!

    When you look at Chelsea, Lampard's only real importance is getting a few goals - some of them do contribute to Chelsea's points total though.

    At Arsenal I'd say Cesc and RVP are the key players.

    So, all in all Gerrard>>Cesc>>Scholes>>Lampard
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:25 pm

    Gerrard break confirmed.



    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12016_2665386,00.html

    last season it was metatarsals, now hairlinefractures seem the new hype...
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:26 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:Gerrard break confirmed.
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12016_2665386,00.html

    last season it was metatarsals, now hairlinefractures seem the new hype...

    So he'll be out for 6 weeks too?
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:27 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    jonathan de guzman wrote:Gerrard break confirmed.
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12016_2665386,00.html

    last season it was metatarsals, now hairlinefractures seem the new hype...

    So he'll be out for 6 weeks too?
    No it isn't as bad as Rooney's. He can play v Chelski, but thereafter he needs 1-2 weeks rest (prob. 1 for a guy like him), so he'll miss the match v Germany
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:27 pm

    He is apparently fit to play against Chelsea, but they will try to rest him for the England game from what I've heard.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:40 pm

    Whats the betting that even though he's last in the votes Lampard will score more than the other 3, even after penalties have been taken out? (he's the only one of the 4 who takes them).
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:42 pm

    He almost certainly will be the top scorer out of the four. That is why I didn't want to be dismissive towards him. The other three are crucial to how their teams play whereas he isn't, but his goal record can't be ignored because it is impressive.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:44 pm

    He does finish as well as most strikers, fair play to him that goal last night was excellently taken.

    If only he could do all that and do the work of a playmaker as well.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:45 pm

    So who is better, Gerrard with a broken toe, or Lampard with a broken toe?


    We'll find out soon!
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:46 pm

    I reckon they'll both be useless on Sunday and still do enough in flashes to get rave reviews from the media.
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    Post by COTR Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:46 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:So who is better, Gerrard with a broken toe, or Lampard with a broken toe?


    We'll find out soon!

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    Post by golsud Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:46 pm

    Xavi with a broken leg is better.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:48 pm

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    no ballack in the poll of attacking midfielders I see blut Razz

    Ballack will move to us (Werder Bremen) in the winter. He and Frings will be united at the club also, and we will win the CL.


    *sigh* How great it would be if we could afford him.
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    Post by Football Genius Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:54 pm

    Tweedle wrote:When you look at Man Utd, their most important players are Ronaldo, followed by Scholes, Rooney and Rio IMO.

    When you look at Liverpool, their most important player is Gerrard. By miles!

    When you look at Chelsea, Lampard's only real importance is getting a few goals - some of them do contribute to Chelsea's points total though.

    At Arsenal I'd say Cesc and RVP are the key players.

    So, all in all Gerrard>>Cesc>>Scholes>>Lampard

    Not strictly true, but understand what you are saying. Carragher keeps the defence together so is as indespensible along with Reina. And in order to let Gerrard drive forward we do need a player who can hold the space in behind, and although neither Alonso or Masch have nailed down this position, they are vital to allow Gerrard to be our most important player.
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