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    Post by Football Genius Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:24 pm

    There are very few 'official fees' released. And the vast majority of quoted actual fees are guestimates and are usually well out.

    That is according to a sports lawyer from a premiership club.

    So lets not bicker over a fee that could well be very different to the one above.
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:26 pm

    Twit. I love that insult. Three cheers to Glyn Hensen for bringing it back into fashion
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:26 pm

    Football Genius wrote:There are very few 'official fees' released. And the vast majority of quoted actual fees are guestimates and are usually well out.

    That is according to a sports lawyer from a premiership club.

    So lets not bicker over a fee that could well be very different to the one above.

    No, let's use our positions of mutual ignorance to enable us to bicker obsessively and indefinitely. Otherwise Hysen and Tweedshire wouldn't have anything to say to one another...
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:27 pm

    Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:The next N'Zogbia?

    In order to become the "next" someone, doesnt that someone actually have to have done something worthy, other than score a lucky punted goal and have Alan "Pundit of the millenium" Shearer hyping him up (NO bias there at all) ?

    Exactly, you can't have the "next Zog", he's only 21 and is STILL the "next Ginola". ok


    @ Manchester fans

    It's amazing how much stock you lot put in reserve games, countless players look good at that level but fail at in the premier league. So please don't compare your youngsters to established top level players. You don't see me comparing LuaLua to bloody Van Persie do you? Laughing
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:29 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Whilst you're on youtube LRD can you find that vid of Rossi nutmegging Taylor and scoring?

    It wasn't a nutmeg Parks. Taylor played a dodgy pass to the keeper and Rossi incepted it. A bad fuckup by a very young Taylor, but not a reflection on Rossi's talent in any way.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:30 pm

    It would be interesting to see how much all these teams have spent on these young players.

    As for City:

    Richards - Free
    Johnson - Free
    Ireland - Free
    Onuoha - Free
    Sturridge - Free
    Miller - Free
    Logan - Free
    Schmeicel - Free
    Bianchi - £8.8m
    Bojinov - £6m
    Corluka - £7m
    Fernandes - £2.8m
    Garrido - £1.5m
    Hart - £600k
    Mills - £300k

    Total - £27m

    Not bad considering we have already sold SWP and Barton (who cost us nothing) for a combined fee of £26.8m.
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    Post by Lard Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:31 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Whilst you're on youtube LRD can you find that vid of Rossi nutmegging Taylor and scoring?

    Cant find it with the full incident. Just the goal and Taylor's face after it. His face said that was incredible, he will be a future world star, we have nobody like him at Newcastle in training thats for sure Shocked Ale
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:31 pm

    So a net expenditure of 200,000 pounds.


    Puts Wenger to shame...
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:34 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:It would be interesting to see how much all these teams have spent on these young players.

    As for City:

    Richards - Free
    Johnson - Free
    Ireland - Free
    Onuoha - Free
    Sturridge - Free
    Miller - Free
    Logan - Free
    Schmeicel - Free
    Bianchi - £8.8m
    Bojinov - £6m
    Corluka - £7m
    Fernandes - £2.8m
    Garrido - £1.5m
    Hart - £600k
    Mills - £300k

    Total - £27m

    Not bad considering we have already sold SWP and Barton (who cost us nothing) for a combined fee of £26.8m.

    Most fruitful academy in the league currently no doubt. Boro's is good too, however out of all the youngsters coming through, they have nothing to compare with the real obvious World Class talent that is Richards.

    He is the archetypal modern footballer. There is no obvious weakness to his game, and I reckon so long as he keeps his feet on the ground he can become the first genuine World Class fullback this country has ever produced.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:35 pm

    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:So a net expenditure of 200,000 pounds.


    Puts Wenger to shame...

    So... when Arsenal sell Anelka for £23m it's because Real are stupid and the Arsenal directors made the decision over Wenger's head...

    when Chelsea pay £22m for SWP and then play him about 20 times in 2 seasons it's down to City's business acumen?
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:40 pm

    Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:

    He is the archetypal modern footballer. There is no obvious weakness to his game, and I reckon so long as he keeps his feet on the ground he can become the first genuine World Class fullback this country has ever produced.

    You make me sick.

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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:47 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:

    He is the archetypal modern footballer. There is no obvious weakness to his game, and I reckon so long as he keeps his feet on the ground he can become the first genuine World Class fullback this country has ever produced.

    You make me sick.

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    Even you must know Neville is a very good, hugely consistent and probably massively underrated fullback, but he isnt a great one from a footballing point of view. Technically he's pretty average.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:50 pm

    He's amazing.

    Plus Micah will go through a bad patch soon, like all young players.
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:56 pm

    Parks lives wrote:He's amazing.

    Plus Micah will go through a bad patch soon, like all young players.

    He certainly will go through a bad patch. But just from the potential- there isnt really a weakness to his game which is what seperates him from the other young players
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    Post by Batman Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:22 pm

    Manchester United XI - 2012?

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    Foster(29)

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    Rafael(22) . . . . . . Pique(25) . . . . . . . Evans(24) . . . . . . Fabio(22)

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    Ronaldo(27) . . . . Fletcher(28.) . . . Anderson(24) . . . . Nani(26) .

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    Rooney(27) . . . Tevez(28.)


    • I would hope that most of these players are still at Man Utd in 5 years time, especially the front 6.

    • I do have my concerns about the back 5. Pique and Evans have got the talent but how long will they have to wait to get into the team (Rio + Vidic), will they be willing to wait?

    • To be a keeper for a top 4 club then you have to be very good, how good is Foster? I have a feeling Craig Gordon could be the next Man Utd GK.

    • The twins will need time to adapt but i have high hopes for them, especially Fabio.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:39 pm

    Richards is the next Thuram. what a shame that Bale isn't also English Sad
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:44 pm

    Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:Twit. I love that insult. Three cheers to Glyn Hensen for bringing it back into fashion

    You're such an ABT Razz
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    Post by fcb Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:21 pm

    A defence with an average age below 25 is asking for trouble. You need experienced heads at the back, and defenders never reach their peak until 27-28.

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).
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    Post by Rosicky Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:23 pm

    kas wrote:

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).

    Very Happy

    I think this may anger some united fans Smile
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:26 pm

    kas i think anderson and nani will end up in the bracket too, the mancs laugh now about arsenal having to sell big name players but it'll always be a problem with foreign players that at some stage they'll fancy spain or italy for a challenge and these 3 portuguese will be no exception, as will tevez
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:27 pm

    kas wrote:A defence with an average age below 25 is asking for trouble. You need experienced heads at the back, and defenders never reach their peak until 27-28.

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).

    scratch But these are supermen kas, didn't you know. Out of the front 6 i can only see Rooney still being there in 5 years, maybe Nani and Fletcher aswell. Ronaldo and Tevez are certain to leave at some point though, to Spain probably.
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    Post by Lard Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:30 pm

    Fletcher wont be here this time next year, let alone in 5 years. They say Ronaldo will leave every year starting back in 2004 ffs Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Lard Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:33 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    kas wrote:

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).

    Very Happy

    I think this may anger some united fans Smile

    Indeed because it's an insulting comment. Is la liga bigger than the prem now nope. Are barca or madrid bigger than man u nope. So how does this comment come about? I think Ronaldo will move on when hes 28 or so. But thats due to needing a change after so many years, different league different country. But bigger things...impossible Biggrin
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    Post by fcb Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:35 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    kas wrote:

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).

    Very Happy

    I think this may anger some united fans Smile


    Haha, it actually came out a bit wrong. When I initially wrote it, they would probably interpret it to be "Ronaldo will be the one moving to smaller things, since it obviously doesn't get bigger than Man. Utd", etc. Then I clarified it, but it came out a mess.

    Anyway, Ronaldo to Barça in 1-2 years time ok
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:35 pm

    L.r.d wrote: Are barca or madrid bigger than man u nope.
    possibly not in the eys of man ure fans but in the eyes of players most certainly, especially latin american/southern european players
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:36 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:
    kas wrote:

    As for the front 6 staying at Man. Utd, don't think there's much chance of that. Fletcher and Ronaldo are the two most certain to move on at some point, one to smaller things (Fletcher) and one to bigger things (Ronaldo).

    Very Happy

    I think this may anger some united fans Smile

    Indeed because it's an insulting comment. Is la liga bigger than the prem now nope. Are barca or madrid bigger than man u nope. So how does this comment come about? I think Ronaldo will move on when hes 28 or so. But thats due to needing a change after so many years, different league different country. But bigger things...impossible Biggrin

    Real and Barca have a glamour and reputation that Man U lack, it has nothing to do with size. I'm sure Ronaldo will get his move to one of those two within 5 years.
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    Post by fcb Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:37 pm

    He might even move to Italy. Serie A is on the rebound and Juve/Milan/Inter can be attractive propositions.
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    Post by Lard Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:42 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    L.r.d wrote: Are barca or madrid bigger than man u nope.
    possibly not in the eys of man ure fans but in the eyes of players most certainly, especially latin american/southern european players

    To Ronaldo would they be? No because he is here now and is happy with everything. Should he go to Madrid where they have a new manager every week and there president is a clown and there is a new team to play with every year? lol! . To a south american/latin who is going to move to one then yes. Because obviously the language and culture is more like there own. Are they bigger than man utd in most peoples eyes? I don't think so anymore.

    @ Kimbo im sure 2 years ago you and people like you said Ronaldo would be off in 5 years. So that's in 2-3 years time. Or every year that goes by he stays will you say in 5 years within 5 years. Garbage. He will be here till he is at least 26.
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    Post by Batman Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:45 pm

    If Ronaldo is happy here, enjoying his football and winning things then i can't see him moving anytime soon.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:46 pm

    lrd poss not amongst english players anymore, poss even northern europeans but amongst s europeans of which cR is one RM & Barca are miles ahead, IF one of those had a genuine interest, eg if ronnie went to Milan then they'd get him kidding yourself otherwise is just foolish

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