UEFA Cup round 1

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gUgPkJ76x8

Ha ha ha

That´s the spirit.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:1 Spain------ 14.312 12.437 15.642 19.000 3.750 65.141 8/ 8
2 England---- 11.250 15.571 14.428 16.625 3.500 61.374 8/ 8
3 Italy-------- 8.875 14.000 15.357 11.928 3.250 53.410 8/ 8
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4 France----- 13.500 11.428 10.812 10.000 2.214 47.954 7/ 7
5 Romania---- 4.333 5.500 16.833 11.333 1.800 39.799 3/ 5
6 Germany--- 4.714 10.571 10.437 9.500 2.785 38.007 7/ 7
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7 Russia------ 5.875 10.000 10.000 6.625 3.000 35.500 4/ 4
8 Netherlands 5.416 12.000 7.583 8.214 2.000 35.213 6/ 6
9 Portugal--- 10.250 8.166 5.500 8.083 1.928 33.927 7/ 7

Are these the latest as of today?

yep the guy who does them is very fast & reliable. within half an hour of the last match played he has the ranking updated.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2008.html

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:1 Spain------ 14.312 12.437 15.642 19.000 3.750 65.141 8/ 8
2 England---- 11.250 15.571 14.428 16.625 3.500 61.374 8/ 8
3 Italy-------- 8.875 14.000 15.357 11.928 3.250 53.410 8/ 8
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4 France----- 13.500 11.428 10.812 10.000 2.214 47.954 7/ 7
5 Romania---- 4.333 5.500 16.833 11.333 1.800 39.799 3/ 5
6 Germany--- 4.714 10.571 10.437 9.500 2.785 38.007 7/ 7
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7 Russia------ 5.875 10.000 10.000 6.625 3.000 35.500 4/ 4
8 Netherlands 5.416 12.000 7.583 8.214 2.000 35.213 6/ 6
9 Portugal--- 10.250 8.166 5.500 8.083 1.928 33.927 7/ 7

Are these the latest as of today?

yep the guy who does them is very fast & reliable. within half an hour of the last match played he has the ranking updated.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2008.html

So there's a huge "showing up" bonus in the CL, we need *loads* of extra wins in the Uefa-cup to make up for that

....we've really been shafted by the Uefa-cup draw

Axeslammer wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:1 Spain------ 14.312 12.437 15.642 19.000 3.750 65.141 8/ 8
2 England---- 11.250 15.571 14.428 16.625 3.500 61.374 8/ 8
3 Italy-------- 8.875 14.000 15.357 11.928 3.250 53.410 8/ 8
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4 France----- 13.500 11.428 10.812 10.000 2.214 47.954 7/ 7
5 Romania---- 4.333 5.500 16.833 11.333 1.800 39.799 3/ 5
6 Germany--- 4.714 10.571 10.437 9.500 2.785 38.007 7/ 7
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7 Russia------ 5.875 10.000 10.000 6.625 3.000 35.500 4/ 4
8 Netherlands 5.416 12.000 7.583 8.214 2.000 35.213 6/ 6
9 Portugal--- 10.250 8.166 5.500 8.083 1.928 33.927 7/ 7

Are these the latest as of today?

yep the guy who does them is very fast & reliable. within half an hour of the last match played he has the ranking updated.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2008.html

So there's a huge "showing up" bonus in the CL, we need *loads* of extra wins in the Uefa-cup to make up for that

....we've really been shafted by the Uefa-cup draw

Don't think we'l able to catch up with Germany. Romania could be doable, but we also have to watch the Russians.

lampiao007 wrote:God, as soon as we go back to 4-5 teams, the better
6 defeats, 1 draw
I bet Braga it's going to give 200% against us this weekend.

Yeah, I think this was the worst week ever in european competitions.
We just can´t have more that 3/4 teams at best as we do not have the depth in our league to have more, the weaklings just blow our rating really bad.

Porto Liverpool 1-1
Milan Benfica 2-1
Sporting Man United 0-1

Belenenses Bayern 1-0
Leverkusen Leiria 3-1
Paços de Ferreira AZ 1-0
Hammarby Braga 2-1

The 3 bigs results are bad but it was against top opposition.
Belenenses was an ok result, it was Bayern after all.
Leiria shouldn´t even be there, it is too weak a team.
Paços playing in europe for the first time after a super season by their standards...and going out in style.
Even Braga losing to Hammarby???
There should be a rule that only a team but the 3 big should go. This will be for sure the worst season ever and we will take many years to go up in the ranking again.
Bye Bye CL spots

Protheus wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:God, as soon as we go back to 4-5 teams, the better
6 defeats, 1 draw
I bet Braga it's going to give 200% against us this weekend.

Yeah, I think this was the worst week ever in european competitions.
We just can´t have more that 3/4 teams at best as we do not have the depth in our league to have more, the weaklings just blow our rating really bad.

Porto Liverpool 1-1
Milan Benfica 2-1
Sporting Man United 0-1

Belenenses Bayern 1-0
Leverkusen Leiria 3-1
Paços de Ferreira AZ 1-0
Hammarby Braga 2-1

The 3 bigs results are bad but it was against top opposition.
Belenenses was an ok result, it was Bayern after all.
Leiria shouldn´t even be there, it is too weak a team.
Paços playing in europe for the first time after a super season by their standards...and going out in style.
Even Braga losing to Hammarby???
There should be a rule that only a team but the 3 big should go. This will be for sure the worst season ever and we will take many years to go up in the ranking again.
Bye Bye CL spots

6 defeats and 1 draw and you've gotten as many points as Holland have with 4 victories a draw and 1 defeat....

So nothing is lost for Portugal, you just can't do it on the next matchday too.

More troubling is also that you're gonna lose a good year (03/04) next year while Ukraine is having a good year so far, you might lose out on 9th place

btw, there was apparently some minor trouble from Twente ultras outside Getafe's stadium after the game. Don't think it was much else besides some vociferous protests though.

cska sofia sold all the original tickets for the game with toulouse on thursday, they now sell the allocation the away fans have not taken up, so it will be around 22,000 in the stadium.i got one of the last 2 tickets available in varna on monday, so will be there and will post my view of the game on friday.

Klose and Podolski are out injured for Bayern. Toni is now the only semi-fit striker. Bad timing. Guess Wagner will see some minutes in Lisbon and (hopefully) Toni Kroos as well.

UEFA Cup

October 2
Panathinaikos 3 - 0 Petrzalka

October 4
Rapid Bucuresti 2 - 2 Nurnberg
Anorthosis 1 - 1 Tottenham H.
Lokomotiv Moscow 2 - 0 FC Midtjylland
18:00 Erciyesspor ? - ? Atletico Madrid
18:00 Helsingborg ? - ? SC Heerenveen
18:15 Hamburger SV ? - ? Litex Lovech
19:00 AaB Aalborg ? - ? Sampdoria
19:00 CSKA Sofia ? - ? Toulouse
19:00 Dnipro D'petrovsk ? - ? Aberdeen
19:00 Elfsborg ? - ? Dinamo Bucuresti
19:00 Hacken ? - ? Spartak Moscow
19:00 OB Odense ? - ? Sparta Prague
19:00 Valerenga Oslo ? - ? Austria Vienna
19:30 Ajax Amsterdam ? - ? Dinamo Zagreb
19:30 Basel ? - ? FK Sarajevo
19:45 BATE Borisov ? - ? Villarreal
20:00 Metalist Kharkiv ? - ? Everton
20:00 Panionios ? - ? Sochaux
20:00 Standard Liege ? - ? Zenit St. Petersburg
20:00 Zurich ? - ? Empoli
20:15 FC Copenhagen ? - ? Lens
20:30 AIK Stockholm ? - ? Hapoel Tel Aviv
20:30 Belenenses ? - ? Bayern Munich
20:30 Club Brugge ? - ? Brann Bergen
20:30 Galatasaray ? - ? Sion
20:30 SV Salzburg ? - ? AEK Athens
20:45 FC Twente Enschede ? - ? Getafe
20:45 Palermo ? - ? Mlada Boleslav
20:45 Rapid Vienna ? - ? Anderlecht
20:45 Red Star Belgrade ? - ? Groclin Dyskobolia
20:45 Rennes ? - ? Lokomotiv Sofia
21:00 Blackburn R. ? - ? Larisa
21:00 Bolton W. ? - ? Rabotnicki
21:00 Bordeaux ? - ? Tampere United
21:00 Braga ? - ? Hammarby
21:00 Fiorentina ? - ? FC Groningen
21:00 Zaragoza ? - ? Aris Saloniki
21:30 AZ Alkmaar ? - ? Pacos Ferreira
22:15 Uniao Leiria ? - ? Bayer Leverkusen

when is't next round draw??????

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:when is't next round draw??????

9th October 2007, let's just make sure Atletico are in it tonight.

Aupa Atleti

Hooray, Nürnberg reached the Groupe Stage and kicked out Rapid Bukarest!!!

Thank God they aren't such a disgrace like Bremen was last night.

Hans Meyer

Erciyespor 0 - Atletico 2 (Aguero, Jurado)

Anorthosis Famagusta 1-1 Tottenham FT (2-7 on aggregate)

Tottenham should have won, but Defoe's finishing was poor and Bent barely contributed at all. Keane scored after good work from Bale. Boateng didn't do much when he was on the pitch either. Not a very impressive performance from Spurs though, they played quite a strong team against a poor side and should have won comfortably.

So far...

UEFA Cup

October 2
Panathinaikos 3 - 0 Petrzalka

October 4
Rapid Bucuresti 2 - 2 Nurnberg
Anorthosis 1 - 1 Tottenham H.
Lokomotiv Moscow 2 - 0 FC Midtjylland

chrissicross wrote:

Thank God they aren't such a disgrace like Bremen

Nothing new here then.

Heerenveen 4-0 down at Helsingborg, they're going out for sure (after winning 5-3 at home).

Less points for the Dutch.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Anorthosis Famagusta 1-1 Tottenham FT (2-7 on aggregate)

Tottenham should have won, but Defoe's finishing was poor and Bent barely contributed at all. Keane scored after good work from Bale. Boateng didn't do much when he was on the pitch either. Not a very impressive performance from Spurs though, they played quite a strong team against a poor side and should have won comfortably.

Pretty much spot on - Absolute disgrace of a performance. I wish I had taken the time out to have a wank wearing a glove made of broken glass instead of watching that on a portable TV.

Besides Martin Jol, I wonder if any other mug of a fan has been sat there doing f@ck all for the last few hours not knowing we had an early kick off?

We are going to get royally rogered (not by the one on EMB) by Liverpool.

Another 2 goals for Aguero tonight (was subbed off at HT). Pleased for him, after a tough first season at Atleti.

So far...

UEFA Cup

October 2
Panathinaikos 3 - 0 Petrzalka

October 4
Rapid Bucuresti 2 - 2 Nurnberg
Anorthosis 1 - 1 Tottenham H.
Lokomotiv Moscow 2 - 0 FC Midtjylland
Erciyesspor 0 - 5 Atletico Madrid
Helsingborg 5 - 1 SC Heerenveen

Did Madrid got 2 pens?

I hope that Galatasaray sort themselves out from their last game against Sion. 3-2 down on aggregate. Hoping that they can win 2/3-0.

ds atletico goals one deserved pen, and 4 goals from open play and we could have had 5 more with a better final ball

Frank
Good to see Forlan doing well , by the way what role is Aguero playing at the moment is he the SS or WF or AMC (Kaka) for AM?

Some current scores:

FT Rapid Bucuresti 2 - 2 Nurnberg

FT Anorthosis 1 - 1 Tottenham H.

FT Lokomotiv Moscow 2 - 0 FC Midtjylland

FT Erciyesspor 0 - 5 Atletico Madrid

FT Helsingborg 5 - 1 SC Heerenveen

85' Hamburger SV 3 - 1 Litex Lovech

70' Zurich 1 - 0 Empoli

HT AaB Aalborg 0 - 0 Sampdoria

HT CSKA Sofia 0 - 0 Toulouse

HT Dnipro D'petrovsk 0 - 1 Aberdeen

HT Elfsborg 0 - 1 Dinamo Bucuresti

HT Hacken 0 - 1 Spartak Moscow

HT OB Odense 0 - 0 Sparta Prague

HT Valerenga Oslo 0 - 1 Austria Vienna

matalist karkov vs everton is what i will watch this evening poised at 1-1 should be a cracker

channel 5 (uk) 7:45

0-0 at HT for Doria . We are on our way out at the moment.

DS really he is playing as an out and out striker with forlan dropping off a bit more although there is a lot of switching which is good and keeps the defenders on their toes. Both are doing superbly, i don't expect any english to understand but we are so much better without torres and with these 2, its unbelievable even allowing for other improvements in our squad, they get on well, which i don't think torres and kun ever did either.