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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:37 pm

    Terry faces a ban for grabbing ref's card

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    England captain John Terry is facing censure from the FA after attempting to snatch the red card from referee Mike Dean's hand during Chelsea's stormy encounter with Manchester United on Sunday.

    Dean has included the actions of Terry as well as a number of other Chelsea players and staff in the report he has sent to Soho Square.


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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:44 pm

    he'll defo get banned. was there a suspended sentance in place after his run in with poll at WHL?
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:46 pm

    Highly disrespectful activity there from the England captain. 'No no, you can't send our player off, don't you know who I am?!?!?!'


    Absolute tosser, and a massively overrated player. Should have been sent off himself...
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:46 pm

    Pretty sure there was.

    To me, it's pretty clear that Terry was disgusted with Mikel's tackle and wanted to give the red to him personally. Razz
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    Post by S4P Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:49 pm

    Maybe he was trying to give the red card to Rooney seen as the ref was never going to do it himself Razz
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:52 pm

    That would be $h!t news for Chelsea if they give him a ban, what kind of length do you think he could face ? we play chelsea in 3 games time so i hope he misses our game.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:03 pm

    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:Highly disrespectful activity there from the England captain. 'No no, you can't send our player off, don't you know who I am?!?!?!'


    Absolute tosser, and a massively overrated player. Should have been sent off himself...

    I have said all along t'confounded fool is UNWORTHY of t'Captains arm-band...if NOT Beckham pass it to T'Red Beast (Rooney) says i...!!!
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:04 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:That would be $h!t news for Chelsea if they give him a ban, what kind of length do you think he could face ? we play chelsea in 3 games time so i hope he misses our game.

    9 months is a fair and reasonable ban - will send out the right message too! ok
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:08 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:Highly disrespectful activity there from the England captain. 'No no, you can't send our player off, don't you know who I am?!?!?!'


    Absolute tosser, and a massively overrated player. Should have been sent off himself...

    I have said all along t'confounded fool is UNWORTHY of t'Captains arm-band...if NOT Beckham pass it to T'Red Beast (Rooney) says i...!!!


    Terry isn't even worth picking as first choice for England, let alone as captain.

    But of course, he's from London, he looks a bit like Terry Butcher, and he has a perceived 'grit n determination*' to his game. The fact that the only reason he has to make so many last ditch tackles is because he's slow and has dodgy positioning seems to escape most people...



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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:09 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:That would be $h!t news for Chelsea if they give him a ban, what kind of length do you think he could face ? we play chelsea in 3 games time so i hope he misses our game.

    9 months is a fair and reasonable ban - will send out the right message too! ok


    Sounds about right. I mean, Ferdinand got 8 months for missing a drugs test, whereas Terry has insulted and degraded the authority of referees time and time again.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:10 pm

    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:Highly disrespectful activity there from the England captain. 'No no, you can't send our player off, don't you know who I am?!?!?!'


    Absolute tosser, and a massively overrated player. Should have been sent off himself...

    I have said all along t'confounded fool is UNWORTHY of t'Captains arm-band...if NOT Beckham pass it to T'Red Beast (Rooney) says i...!!!


    Terry isn't even worth picking as first choice for England, let alone as captain.

    But of course, he's from London, he looks a bit like Terry Butcher, and he has a perceived 'grit n determination*' to his game. The fact that the only reason he has to make so many last ditch tackles is because he's slow and has dodgy positioning seems to escape most people...



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    But, not you an i g'd Sir! ok
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:11 pm

    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:That would be $h!t news for Chelsea if they give him a ban, what kind of length do you think he could face ? we play chelsea in 3 games time so i hope he misses our game.

    9 months is a fair and reasonable ban - will send out the right message too! ok


    Sounds about right. I mean, Ferdinand got 8 months for missing a drugs test, whereas Terry has insulted and degraded the authority of referees time and time again.

    Not to mention bringing t'EPL into disrepute!!! Mad
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    Post by S4P Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:20 pm

    Absolutely. Having your driver deliberately drive you away from the drug testing squad is nowhere near as bad as trying to take a red card away from the ref. Terry should be given a 2 year ban and be forced to apologise to Dean for his outrageous protests following the dismissal of Mikel and allowing Rooney to stay on the park.
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    Post by Lard Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:20 pm

    Doubt he will get banned to be honest. Mikel is unlikely to win his appeal since they cannot reduce a red to a yellow. It was worth a yellow. Also before he showed him the red card, Mikel grabbed his hands to try and stop him showing it. He molests the refs all the time it's ridiculous, he even pushed a few before.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:28 pm

    S4P wrote:Absolutely. Having your driver deliberately drive you away from the drug testing squad is nowhere near as bad as trying to take a red card away from the ref.

    I know you're being sarcastic, but it isn't anywhere near as bad. Either through stupidity or conspiracy, Ferdinand missed a drugs test which he took a matter of days later.

    Terry should be given a 2 year ban and be forced to apologise to Dean for his outrageous protests following the dismissal of Mikel and allowing Rooney to stay on the park.

    This is bollocks. Terry's attempt to grab the red card out of the referee's hand happened before Rooney had even been booked, let alone before the tackle on Cole where he could (and probably should) have got a red card. So the Rooney issue is irrelevant, because Terry couldn't have been influenced (or excused) by something that hadn't yet happened.


    Try again. Your captain is a disgrace. He's not even the best defender at Chelsea, let alone the best in England (as so many would have us believe).
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    Post by S4P Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:33 pm

    Ayman Zawahiri wrote:
    S4P wrote:Absolutely. Having your driver deliberately drive you away from the drug testing squad is nowhere near as bad as trying to take a red card away from the ref.

    I know you're being sarcastic, but it isn't anywhere near as bad. Either through stupidity or conspiracy, Ferdinand missed a drugs test which he took a matter of days later.

    Ferdinand took the test some 48 hours after he was supposed. I'm not saying he definitely took any drugs, but there was enough time for whatever was in there to be gone. The fact he was being driven to and from the club by a Manchester United driver at the time (due to being banned from driving) also made it look very suspicious.

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    S4P wrote:Terry should be given a 2 year ban and be forced to apologise to Dean for his outrageous protests following the dismissal of Mikel and allowing Rooney to stay on the park.

    This is bollocks. Terry's attempt to grab the red card out of the referee's hand happened before Rooney had even been booked, let alone before the tackle on Cole where he could (and probably should) have got a red card. So the Rooney issue is irrelevant, because Terry couldn't have been influenced (or excused) by something that hadn't yet happened.

    Try again. Your captain is a disgrace. He's not even the best defender at Chelsea, let alone the best in England (as so many would have us believe).

    I was being sarcastic. Joe Cole should have been sent off, but Rooney should have been too (as is the case in almost every Man United match he plays). It's why he should never be Man Utd or England captain.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:41 pm

    Oh we agree on that, making Rooney captain of the English national side is as ridiculous as making Terry captain.

    For one thing, Rooney hasn't performed consistently for England for 2 1/2 years, and shouldn't even be assured of a starting spot...
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    Post by Cesc Soler Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:44 pm

    I don't think he will be banned, maybe a fine. He is England captain afterall.

    I remember Emmanuel Petit getting a four game ban for doing the same thing though.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:46 pm

    Didn't something like this happen in one of the youth tournaments this summer? I think a Portuguese player stole the cards or restrained the referee to prevent him sending another player off. Obviously it didn't work.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:47 pm

    Rooney for England Captain and Man Utd vice Captain...(Ronaldo = Man Utd Captain)
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:51 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:Rooney for England Captain and Man Utd vice Captain...(Ronaldo = Man Utd Captain)

    Ronaldo won't be the next Man United captain.

    It'll be between Rio and Rooney. I think Hargreaves will have more chance than Ronaldo.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:52 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:Rooney for England Captain and Man Utd vice Captain...(Ronaldo = Man Utd Captain)

    Ronaldo won't be the next Man United captain.

    It'll be between Rio and Rooney. I think Hargreaves will have more chance than Ronaldo.

    The most talented and or inspirational layer should be Captain see: Cantana, Robbo, Becks(England).


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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:53 pm

    Terry might have done some backstabbing and be a bit of a wanker trying to grab the card but i cant believe some people are saying h is overrated as a player and not the best English defender, seems a bit ridiculous to me cos the guy is a quality centre back.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:53 pm

    Becks wasn't the most talented.

    Also how do you explain Keane being our best ever captain?
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:54 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Becks wasn't the most talented.

    Also how do you explain Keane being our best ever captain?

    BOTH the above were 'inspirational' - notice i said talented or inspirational....Ronaldo = BOTH!
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:02 pm

    I thought this was a serious incident when it happened, nothing was made of it but you can't do that, it was in the heat of the moment though I suppose.
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    Post by COTR Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:11 pm

    political correctness gone mad

    he slightly touched the card then realised what he was doing and stopped

    It was more hilarious than serious

    hopefully the FA ban the real culprit

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    Post by Lard Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:20 pm

    COTR wrote:political correctness gone mad

    he slightly touched the card then realised what he was doing and stopped

    It was more hilarious than serious

    hopefully the FA ban the real culprit

    Mike Dean

    For what? He thought it was a red so made the decision. You cant ban people for mistakes like this. At first it looked two footed and wreckless, the way Evra flew in the air and the man u players ran to him probably confirmed that in his mind.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:26 pm

    The FA have rejected Chelsea's appeal to overturn Mikel's red card. He will be banned for three matches.
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    Post by COTR Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:26 pm

    L r d wrote:
    COTR wrote:political correctness gone mad

    he slightly touched the card then realised what he was doing and stopped

    It was more hilarious than serious

    hopefully the FA ban the real culprit

    Mike Dean

    For what? He thought it was a red so made the decision.
    ie he fucked up on a major occasion. the second big four match to be ruined by sheer incompetence already this season

    let's not forget the fergie time or saha dive issues either Laughing


    back on topic though. I found terry's actions more funny than threatening but it would set a dangerous precedent if they didn't ban him

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