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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:14 am

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    The England skipper said: "Manchester United are probably playing the best football they can play at the moment. They've had very few injuries so far.

    "Whereas we know as a team we've got another level to go to. We need to take the game to teams and then no-one can live with us. We must go on a run of games and keep winning.

    "We must keep the pressure up. Christmas is a difficult period. United have got tough games. We must just keep winning and keep on like we know we're capable of."

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    Maureen come out with this as well in his interview with Sky, obvious mind games?

    Firstly we've suffered injuries to Park, Giggs and Solskjaer. Secondly who's to say we can't play better, we're still missing loads of chances even though we are scoring alot of goals.

    Also in Maureen's interview he was banging on about incorrect decisions going our way, erm pot, kettle, black.



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    Post by Cesc Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:19 am

    I was going to mention Mourinho's interview from last night, it was definetely mind games.

    Mentioning the decisions was a bit petty and the luck with injuries and suspensions. He also seemed to suggest that when Utd play at Stamford Bridge the result will be a foregone conclusion.

    He was right with fact the league is not won in December.

    I expect Terry's comments he is the captain and has every right to say what he has said.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:21 am

    I really think away from home we are more dangerous than at home, because Chelsea can't sit in front of goal for 45 minutes like they did at Old Trafford.

    I wouldn't be at all suprised if we got a draw.
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:22 am

    You also had Scholes and Rooney's comeback from injury interrupted for no good reason due to a Dutch referee completely breaking with convention regarding red cards and friendlies.

    So that's Rooney, Scholes, Solskjaer, Park and Giggs. So almost your entire attack have either been injured or had fitness troubles so far this season.


    John Terry's getting desperate. He's got to account for the fact that Man U actually made money on their summer transfers whereas Chelsea bought another 6 players, yet somehow Man U have produced the greater consistency.
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:22 am

    When have Chelsea ever done anything else other than get loads of 1-0 results, and win in a scrappy fashion. Why will it suddenly change, why does he claim they havent got started, when this is all they have ever done.
    I don't really get it, it is a bit like when england kept saying we don't want to peak to early, ended up going home before they ever played well.
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:23 am

    L r d wrote:
    I don't really get it, it is a bit like when england kept saying we don't want to peak to early, ended up going home before they ever played well.


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    Post by Cesc Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:24 am

    santagoingmarching wrote:You also had Scholes and Rooney's comeback from injury interrupted for no good reason due to a Dutch referee completely breaking with convention regarding red cards and friendlies.
    Fair enough the red cards were extremely harsh and they should have not been caried over to the domestic season.

    But surely the English FA are the real ones to blame here.
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    Post by Batman Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:26 am

    All Man Utd have to do is match Chelsea results in the second half of the season.

    Mourinho and Terry are worried.

    hopefully SAF can make them more worried by bringing in same good players in Jan to improve our squad.
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:26 am

    Well, whoever you want to blame, blame them. Fucking ludicrous decision. That's three red cards in a year for Rooney, all of which were highly questionable (though the more I watch the Carvalho's testicles one, the more it looks deliberate)...
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:29 am

    santagoingmarching wrote:Well, whoever you want to blame, blame them. Fucking ludicrous decision. That's three red cards in a year for Rooney, all of which were highly questionable (though the more I watch the Carvalho's testicles one, the more it looks deliberate)...

    I kinda think that, the red cards worked in our favour in the end.
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    Post by Cesc Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:32 am

    L r d wrote:
    santagoingmarching wrote:Well, whoever you want to blame, blame them. Fucking ludicrous decision. That's three red cards in a year for Rooney, all of which were highly questionable (though the more I watch the Carvalho's testicles one, the more it looks deliberate)...

    I kinda think that, the red cards worked in our favour in the end.
    Which ones? - Portugal?

    Rooney missed the start of the season and on his comeback match vs Arsenal, he looked out of sorts. It took him a few games to get back to form. It gave him a few weeks break though so I see your point
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:45 am

    No the ones v porto. Rooney would of been rusty i think anyway, instead of maybe dropping points with him, we won all the matches, got in a good position, and everything was easier from there.
    Plus he would of played every game, and been really needing a rest right now, same maybe for scholes.
    I don't see anyway in which we would have more points than we do, and finished top of the cl group. So everything worked out good, the decisions were a disgrace though.
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    Post by Rez Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:04 pm

    I think Terry is saying now Robben is in the team, he will win us alot of freekicks, so we will score even more corners and deflected free kicks.

    Chelsea can only get better, but if say we win the rest of our game (which I know wont happen) no matter how well Chelsea play, it wont make a difference.

    Were not playing at our maximum, Rooney isnt playing to his level, Saha and Ronaldo are missing chances and Carrick hasnt quite shown his true quality.

    As for injuries, apart from Cole they havent really had any, whos to say terry, Essien and Drogba wont get injured for long periods.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:08 pm

    Rez wrote:
    As for injuries, apart from Cole they havent really had any, whos to say terry, Essien and Drogba wont get injured for long periods.

    They won't. They are on specialised drugs, something I've long suspected.
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    Post by Mistletoe. Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:16 pm

    I'm stunned. Of course everyone expected Terry and Mourinho to say that the championship race is over, United have it in the bag, and if things turn a little sour for Chelsea regarding injuries, they concentrate their efforts in consolidating 2nd place. Then, obviously very sneakily, they talk about a long way to go, and the race still being very open. Terry must have put Mourinho up to this, he was never that sneaky at Porto.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:18 pm

    Mistletoe. wrote:I'm stunned. Of course everyone expected Terry and Mourinho to say that the championship race is over, United have it in the bag, and if things turn a little sour for Chelsea regarding injuries, they concentrate their efforts in consolidating 2nd place. Then, obviously very sneakily, they talk about a long way to go, and the race still being very open. Terry must have put Mourinho up to this, he was never that sneaky at Porto.

    Hehe, your brilliant in seeming like you are above everything.

    I have no problem with them saying they can close the gap and they expect to go all the way.

    However saying only Chelsea can get better, we have been lucky with injuries and we keep getting dodgy decisions is bollocks.
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    Post by Saintsar Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:22 pm

    ParktheHeraldAngelsSing wrote:
    Mistletoe. wrote:I'm stunned. Of course everyone expected Terry and Mourinho to say that the championship race is over, United have it in the bag, and if things turn a little sour for Chelsea regarding injuries, they concentrate their efforts in consolidating 2nd place. Then, obviously very sneakily, they talk about a long way to go, and the race still being very open. Terry must have put Mourinho up to this, he was never that sneaky at Porto.

    Hehe, your brilliant in seeming like you are above everything.

    I have no problem with them saying they can close the gap and they expect to go all the way.

    However saying only Chelsea can get better, we have been lucky with injuries and we keep getting dodgy decisions is bollocks.

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    Of course the title race is still open, but to say that Man U can't improve is a joke. Scholes and Giggs have been inconsistent so far, as has Rooney. That's three very good players who may (or may not) be more consistent in the second half of the season.

    As to refereeing decisions - I've seen more ludicrous decisions go in Chelsea's favour than Man U's this season, though both have had some very questionnable ones both for and against. I guess that referees simply aren't that good...
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:30 pm

    he is does have a point about man utd peaking. i mean they are playing some of their best in the last couple of months. and chelsea are a stronger team then man utd but they cant compete in the cl and the prem. all man utd has to do is keep up with chelsea in terms of results untill cl begins again and the title is yours imo. so allthough you have played really well untill now these next two month will decide the league.
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:53 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:he is does have a point about man utd peaking. i mean they are playing some of their best in the last couple of months. and chelsea are a stronger team then man utd but they cant compete in the cl and the prem. all man utd has to do is keep up with chelsea in terms of results untill cl begins again and the title is yours imo. so allthough you have played really well untill now these next two month will decide the league.

    get to fuck, playing better than them, does not mean peaking early, there is as much to come from us as there is them. They have never played well, why will it change?
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:55 pm

    im not saying they will suddenly win by beautiful football but they will start to do it more convincing and they are very hard to beat. and i dont think there is as much to come from you guys as there is to them.man utd have played good football but that might stop in a period and when that happens will they get results like chelsea have gotten the last couple of months.and when you remember that there is a huge gap in squads so if man utd suddenly get ferdinand,scholes and ronalo injuried i dont think wes brown,o'shea/giggs and parks(ok enough) can pick up. now i know man utd will get players but they will have to get used to the club and chelsea just doesnt have this problem because they are already ready for it.

    oh yea i disagree that they have never played well. it has more to do with the fact that mourinho is hoping that ballack and sheva will transform the team if he waits long enough. this might happen but their best chance of playing well is with robben and maybe joe cole.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:01 pm

    chelsea have been the one that have gotten off to a good start over the last two seasons and have gone one to win the title and no one was saying they peak early.

    but now tha man Utd has none it its some find of fluke and its done to them play at a level the keep mantain Bollocks if you ask me from what i've seen from them they can even get better as can chelsea i might add.
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:07 pm

    Messiah wrote:chelsea have been the one that have gotten off to a good start over the last two seasons and have gone one to win the title and no one was saying they peak early.

    but now tha man Utd has none it its some find of fluke and its done to them play at a level the keep mantain Bollocks if you ask me from what i've seen from them they can even get better as can chelsea i might add.

    I don't really understand it either Messiah. It's like it is a miracle man utd are doing well, it's got to end. After the first two games, many said they were against poor teams, and Man Utd will struggle to play that well, and wont be anywhere near as consistent as Chelsea, now they have proved that wrong, peaked to early. Never heard such crap in my life. Man Utd have simply played much better than Chelsea. That can continue, that can change, But nothing to do with peaking early.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:26 pm

    Terry: "I want to prove I'm as good as Rio, play Lampard and Ballack in front of me."

    Maureen: "Are you INSANE?"
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    Post by S4P Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:28 pm

    This reminds me of what Ferguson did to both Keegan and Wenger.

    Yet it was acceptable back then. Mourinho starts it, and people (ironically United fans) begin whining

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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:30 pm

    He never lied though.
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    Post by S4P Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:34 pm

    ParktheHeraldAngelsSing wrote:He never lied though.

    He said the same things that Mourinho has said this season, such as "the pressure's on Newcastle being at the top. We can still catch them." etc.

    Tell me, what is Jose lying about? Maybe he is going a bit overboard by saying "Only Chelsea can get better", but in a straight contest between the top 2, do you think United can improve much more this season? Personally, I can't see it happening, whereas I can see Chelsea playing much better, come February/March.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:38 pm

    Of course you see that. We're still not clinical enough in my eyes, we create loads of chances more than anyone by a long way and could be scoring alot more.
    We also need more alternatives in midfield and obviously cover.

    You're serious injuries are Cech and Joe Cole. We have missed Park and Ole Solskjaer, plus Giggs and Neville have missed 4-5 games each.

    As for incorrect decisions thats just bollocks as we discussed yesterday.
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    Post by Hardrada Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:39 pm

    Messiah wrote:chelsea have been the one that have gotten off to a good start over the last two seasons and have gone one to win the title and no one was saying they peak early.

    :doh:

    04/05 we were chasing Arsenal from behind. Only last season were we ahead from the start.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:47 pm

    King Herod-rada wrote:
    Messiah wrote:chelsea have been the one that have gotten off to a good start over the last two seasons and have gone one to win the title and no one was saying they peak early.

    Doh

    04/05 we were chasing Arsenal from behind. Only last season were we ahead from the start.
    You were on top after 15-odd games, then you pulled away.

    I swear the turning point was when Arsenal lost their 49-game unbeaten streak... 11 games in.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:52 pm

    Someone tell me what the big fucking deal is here? All they've done is stated the obvious, they've said nothing wrong. Why has this thread got so many replies??? This place is like the fucking twighlight zone sometimes! Grr


    "Manchester United are probably playing the best football they can play at the moment."

    True

    "They've had very few injuries so far."

    True

    "Whereas we know as a team we've got another level to go to. We need to take the game to teams and then no-one can live with us. We must go on a run of games and keep winning."

    True

    "We must keep the pressure up. Christmas is a difficult period. United have got tough games. We must just keep winning and keep on like we know we're capable of."

    True

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