UEFA euro 2008 qualfication

And we f'cked georgia.
Sure, you don't care about it
But still, if Ukraine lose to France today, we're in 4th place in this damned group...

after 30'
Malta - Norway 0:2

Turkey- Bosnia- Herzegovina 0:0

at the moment Norwy is through

Sweden - Latvia 1:1
Spain - N. Ireland 0:0

HT
Malta - Norway 0:3
Turkey- Bosnia- Herzegovina 1:0

Turkey in the driving seat again.

Fucking hell Gerrads passing o_0 been shocking today.

Final standing UEFA-coefficient:

Greece 2,167
Netherlands 2,417
Croatia 2,409
Italy 2,364
Czech Rep 2,333
Sweden 2,273
Romania 2,25
Germany 2,25
Portugal 2,192
Spain 2,182
Poland 2,167
France 2,091
Turkey 1,958
Russia 1,958

So, while being inofficial, the pots will be:

pot 1: Austria, Switzerland, Greece, Netherlands
pot 2:Croatia, Italy, Czech Republic, Sweden
pot 3: Romania, Germany, Portugal, Spain
pot 4: Poland, France, Turkey, Russia

Pot 3 looks the toughest, in pot 2 and 4 there is only one big name team. So any group of death will contain Italy and France.

Btw, Andrei Arshavin got a straight red card against Andorra, so by normal procedure he should be suspended at Russia's first games at the Euros.

Something I forgot to mention:
Greece win in Hungary was irrelevant to the Euros, but it means Greece will be seeded at the World Cup Qualification draw this weekend. (England will be in pot 2 by one point)

How the f@ck is Holland in pot 1

This system absolutely sucks.

Raifael wrote:How the f@ck is Holland in pot 1

This system absolutely sucks.

ranking is based on points /match during last EC & WC qualification (in which we won 10 & drew 2), if it was for beauty of play we wouldn't be anyway near the top. Marco = ideal catenneccio manager. Should teleport him to a few decades ago. Never did Holand score so little on average a match as in this qualification.

Anyway, he'll be gone next season. Marco will be the new Ajax manager (despite the fans not wanting him), risky pick by Jaakkke

jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:

Raifael wrote:How the f@ck is Holland in pot 1

This system absolutely sucks.

Anyway, he'll be gone next season. Marco will be the new Ajax manager (despite the fans not wanting him), risky pick by Jaakkke

I know most Ajax fans see him a Ten Cate II

But he is Ajax through and though , all the great Ajax coaches were former Forwards (Michels , Cruijff and van Gaal) when van Gaal came for the 1st time he was unknown. San Marco should have been a club coach first.

Raifael wrote:

jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:

Raifael wrote:How the f@ck is Holland in pot 1

This system absolutely sucks.

Anyway, he'll be gone next season. Marco will be the new Ajax manager (despite the fans not wanting him), risky pick by Jaakkke

I know most Ajax fans see him a Ten Cate II

But he is Ajax through and though , all the great Ajax coaches were former Forwards (Michels , Cruijff and van Gaal) when van Gaal came for the 1st time he was unknown. San Marco should have been a club coach first.

Well van Gaal was a great club manager & a shite international manager maybe the same goes for Marco, but I don't think so.

Van Gaal was NOT a forward. Van Gaal was a defender / (defensive) midfielder. I remember watching that ugly bastard. Always moaning to refs...

Don't think those Ajax fans see him as Ten Cate II, they rate him incapable (as clear in the way they ridicule his line-ups for Holland and potential Ajax line-ups; they never did that in that way with ten cate).

No british teams qualified for the euro..despite all the players playing in the best league in the world!!

English league is maybe a little bit responsable of that failure.If there's no doubt physically all the british teams are ful of athletic,strong players well the level of technicity at the high level seem very poor!

not even able to be in top 2 in a group (british teams)...we told you.

Arnaud loves Catherine wrote:No british teams qualified for the euro..despite all the players playing in the best league in the world!!

Maybe this could make people reconsider the "best league in the world" stuff

Arnaud loves Catherine wrote:No british teams qualified for the euro..despite all the players playing in the best league in the world!!

English league is maybe a little bit responsable of that failure.If there's no doubt physically all the british teams are ful of athletic,strong players well the level of technicity at the high level seem very poor!

not even able to be in top 2 in a group (british teams)...we told you.

People will look to blame the league and such. But for me it's nonsense. You say it's proof it's not the best league in the world, others say to many foreign players in the league. For me both arguments are not true at all.

England have technically good players, but they also have players who play with technically amazing players, but they themselves are average technically. The biggest examples are Lampard and Gerrard. Put two average tecnically players together and no surprise you have a team with no ideas and no balance.

I would like to congratulate Slaven Bilic on his team's performance and also his refreshingly frank post match comments. In a game where many England fans 'assumed' a win let alone a draw(though many will deny it I'm sure of it) was inevitable, Croatia played them off the park and gave them a real footballing lesson in every sense such as technique, mentalilty, tactics and even in fitness.

How many of the England players last night play regularly for their countries? At the end of the game the three strikers are not even first choices at Spurs and Liverpool. How can they be expected to play ay this level when they ''20'' minutes of Premier League football ?
It was a farce, saying that Crouch along Beckham were decent.

Richards may be supremely tallented, but he is also a huge liability. He goes bombing forwards leaving us fully exposed at the back and whilst his pace can get him out of trouble against smaller teams, he was really shown up yesterday. Obviously the lad has a bright future ahead of him.

Felt sorry for Carson for his obvious links with my club, but it was a massive ask but there is still no denying the blunder he made.
Now I'm not a keeper for my local team but I always hear my coach shouting out for our keepers to get behind the ball espcially when the ball is dipping and bouncing infront of you. It felt similar to how Carson conceded againist Cannavaro(Juve) 2 years ago in the CL.

Gerrard, Cole, Lampard, Campbell........too many to mention were simply a disgrace to the jersey it must be said. Anyway at least they'll go back to their £100000 a week wages, that must be comforting for them.

Lastly Wembley.............FFS for £800 million you'd expect pretty much the best land latest equiqed stadia. Or at least something like the Milluneium Stadium in Cardiff which is like a furnace when cup finals were played and I've not even mentioned the stupid bloody arch. How much did that thing cost? Why a roof wasn't put in place I do not know. Still not a reason to blame for last nights tabacle.

Though I've fairly slaughtered England in the above, it's a massive shame for not one of Ireland, England, Scotland and N.Ireland not to be involved.
As an Irish lad, it's been a pretty miserable time for ourselves but I see not much of a difference in Ireland and England, except yous had a lifeline at the end. Who would have thought at the start of the qualifiers N.Ireland and Scotland were the only teams from the 'home' nations who deservedly should have gone to the Euros next year.

Some mod should unsticky this and let it drop to its death.