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    Post by The Easter Bunny Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:10 pm

    http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/11/06/the_joy_of_six_terrible_manage.html

    1) Jim Fallon, Dumbarton 1995-96

    Dumbarton started the 1995-96 Scottish First Division season well,
    winning their first two matches. An hour before their third fixture,
    against Dunfermline, they appointed Fallon as manager (strangely his
    assistant, Alastair McLeod, was the brother of his predecessor, Murdo).
    They lost that game 4-0, and it was downhill from there. In fact,
    though Fallon was in charge for 34 of the 36 games that season, his
    team won more points from the other two. They finished with 11, 25
    fewer than the next worst team. As any reasonable person would expect,
    the board acted immediately - offering Fallon a new contract. "I feel
    that it was an unfair playing field for us as we were up against it
    financially," he moped of the dismal season. "The aim now will be to
    stabilise the club and make a determined effort to get back up."
    Fallon's determined effort the following season amounted to one win
    from 12 games, eight of which - including his last five - were lost. He
    left in November. In all, Boghead enjoyed only one home win in Fallon's
    14 months in charge and his overall league record reads: Played: 46.
    Won: 2. Drawn: 5. Lost: 39. Simon Burnton

    2) Johnny Cochrane, Reading 1939

    A decidedly average player, Cochrane is fondly remembered as a
    manager at St Mirren, where he spent 12 years and won the Scottish Cup
    in 1926. He then moved to Sunderland where he spent 11 years, winning
    the league in 1936 and the FA Cup a year later, and remains perhaps the
    club's greatest ever tactician. So when he applied for the Reading job
    in March 1939, the board couldn't believe their luck. He arrived on
    March 31, signing a three-year-contract on a jaw-dropping £1,000-a-year
    salary, and the club prepared for certain success. But they reckoned
    without Cochrane's alarmingly relaxed ways. One player described life
    under the maverick boss thus: "Just before a game this man wearing a
    bowler hat, smoking a cigar and drinking a whisky would pop his head
    round the dressing-room door and ask: 'Who are we playing today?'" He
    was sacked after just 14 days, having won one and lost one of four
    games in charge - though he missed one of those, allegedly with a bout
    of influenza. The same influenza that meant he missed several training
    sessions and was by all accounts largely restricted, the poor lamb, to
    the bar at Reading's Great Western Hotel. That September war broke out,
    and Cochrane never worked in football again. SB

    3) Hristo Stoichkov, Bulgaria 2004-07

    Representing the managerial sub-genre of
    great-players-terrible-coaches (see also Bryan Robson, Lothar Matthäus
    et al) is the former Ballon d'Or winner. "I do not believe in tactics,"
    he says, encouragingly for a coach. Even so, a 1-1 draw against Malta
    apart, his off-field antics were more calamitous than his team's
    performances. He got a four-match touchline ban for reacting to defeat
    against Sweden by screaming abuse at everyone from the referee to the
    then Uefa president Lennart Johansson. His man management was so bad
    that he lost two captains to sudden international retirement after
    arguments. He also fell out with the whole of Romania, accusing them of
    fixing a game against the Netherlands and calling them a nation of
    "mamaliga lovers", (mamaliga
    being a dish made from cornmeal, similar to polenta). A Romanian TV
    channel promptly dispatched a reporter, carrying a plate of the
    delicacy, to follow Stoichkov around until he tried some. In April this
    year he abruptly quit to take over at La Liga side Celta Vigo,
    prompting outrage among Bulgarian fans who felt he had abused his
    position to advertise his services to Europe's top clubs. He left the
    Spanish side in October, by which time they were 11th in the Segunda,
    claiming that he was struggling to live without his parents. SB

    4) David Platt, Sampdoria 1998-99

    Azeglio Vicini, president of the Italian Coaches' Association,
    threatened to resign upon hearing of Platt's appointment on a
    three-year, £20,000-a-week contract which he described as "an insult to
    all Italian coaches", adding: "He's not even qualified to coach the
    reserve side." Indeed, Platt's lack of coaching qualifications and
    Italy's love of random regulations meant he could never even sit on his
    team's bench and was forced to work under the title of "supervisor"
    while Giorgio Veneri, who had no experience above Serie C level, was
    named manager. "To all intents and purposes, he is our coach," insisted
    the club president, Enrico Mantovani. Some people welcomed the
    appointment, Gianluca Vialli hailing "a visionary decision" and calling
    Platt "the future of football coaching". Perhaps, but it was a very
    short-term future. Platt resigned after 48 days and six games, having
    dropped the team's one good player, the Argentinian Ariel Ortega,
    signed Lee Sharpe on loan, earned three points and taken his team from
    13th (mid-table) to 17th (second bottom). By the end of that season
    Samp were in Serie B for the first time since 1982. SB

    5) Franck Sauzée, Hibernian December 2001-February 2002

    Alex McLeish's Hibernian had been beginning to splutter, so when he
    grabbed the Rangers job with both hands, it was clear his successor
    would be left with a rebuilding job on his hands. Perhaps not the
    greatest time to ask your best player to hang up his boots and embark
    on a rookie managerial career, then, and even the man himself -
    much-loved French defender Franck Sauzée - had doubts: "Sometimes you
    see players with great experience who aren't good managers. I may be
    the worst manager you've ever seen in Scotland, you know."

    He had that damn straight, though he didn't start too badly;
    while two losses and two draws weren't great, the second point came
    after a last-minute equaliser in the Edinburgh derby. But the wheels
    really came off at the turn of the year: Hibs drew three and lost four
    in the league, including four-goal shellackings by Aberdeen and
    Motherwell; needed a replay to get past Second Division Stranraer in
    the Scottish Cup only to then ship another four in the next round at
    Ibrox; and lost the semi-final of the League Cup to First Division Ayr.
    After a tedious 1-1 draw at home to Dunfermline left Hibs second bottom
    with only a terrible St Johnstone side saving their utter
    embarrassment, the die was cast: after failing to win any of his 12
    league games in charge, Sauzée was replaced by Bobby Williamson, who
    immediately posted back-to-back 3-0 victories. Hibs eased away from
    relegation bother, but nobody remembers the workaday Williamson with
    much affection at Easter Road - unlike Sauzée, who is still a legend at
    the club despite this utter debacle. Scott Murray

    6) Tommy Docherty, Manchester United 1973-77

    While Docherty led to relegation a team who six years previously had
    been champions of Europe - a feat incidentally bettered in spectacular
    fashion in 1987 by another Scottish managerial disaster zone, Billy
    McNeill, who took 1982 European champions Aston Villa and
    Manchester City down in the same season - he did take them immediately
    back up after a romp of a Second Division campaign. And two seasons
    later won Manchester United's first FA Cup for 14 years. So why is he
    on our list? Simply because he sued Willie Morgan for libel after the
    former United captain claimed on Granada TV that the United boss was
    the "worst manager there has ever been" - and lost. (Docherty was
    alleged to have demanded a £1,000 bribe to play George Best in a
    friendly, had duplicitously placed Denis Law on the transfer list
    despite promising not to and was eventually sacked for cuckolding the
    physio.) Anyone who has a problem with this selection can tell it to
    the judge. SM
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    Post by Deano Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:12 pm

    Glenn Roeder...
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:18 pm

    A worst manager list that doesnt include Zaccheroni?
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:35 pm

    1) Bernd Schuster
    2) Marco van Basten
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    Post by Lordanger Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:06 pm

    SOUNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by DeLux Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:20 am

    I can't comment on the Stoichkov's man-management in the Bulgarian national team, but he wasn't that bad for us. He had us playing well before he abruptly left.
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    Post by EMP Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:17 am

    Ruud Gullit doesn't appear to be a great coach/manager and nor does Gianluca Vialli.
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    Post by Fey Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:51 am

    EMP wrote:Ruud Gullit doesn't appear to be a great coach/manager and nor does Gianluca Vialli.

    Excellent call my friend! <Ale>
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    Post by A & K Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:09 am

    It's simple, players who wants to be manager need to get a license to learn the whole system. Maybe some players who were great in the past and who seemed intelligent enough to manage failed because they only use the knowledge their saw about their own coaches. Unfortunately, what they didn't know is all the tactics coaches have to prepare while their players are resting of sleeping. A good coach has to work extra to learn things about his team next opponents or to find out which player plays the best at which position, etc, etc. I remember Jacquet saying that he used to work all the time, and that he didn't sleep much at all.
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    Post by fcb Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:47 am

    Yeah, that's why I like this requirement of managers requiring a license, and hate it when clubs like Newcastle (Roeder), Boro (Southgate), Chelsea (Grant) etc. try to apply for exemptions or use other "creative" ways to bypass it.
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    Post by StevieG Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:29 pm

    quique sanchez flores
    bryan robson
    sammy lee
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    Post by DeLux Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:39 pm

    StevieG wrote:quique sanchez flores
    bryan robson
    sammy lee

    Hala Koeman! Laughing
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:40 pm

    StevieG wrote:quique sanchez flores
    he did v well at getafe, many a manager has one diffcult period, doesn't automatically make him a bad manager. i think koeman could come closer, in contrast one decent-ish job at PSV doesn't make him good manager either
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    Post by debaser Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:23 pm

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    Post by Calidad Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:57 pm

    Don't remember Sauzee being that bad. Williamson wasn't much better anyway. Didn't help that our squad was very ordinary back then as well.

    Sauzee is still highly regarded, because he was a fantastic defender for us. Probably one of the best to grace our club for sometime.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:13 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:It's simple, players who wants to be manager need to get a license to learn the whole system. Maybe some players who were great in the past and who seemed intelligent enough to manage failed because they only use the knowledge their saw about their own coaches. Unfortunately, what they didn't know is all the tactics coaches have to prepare while their players are resting of sleeping. A good coach has to work extra to learn things about his team next opponents or to find out which player plays the best at which position, etc, etc. I remember Jacquet saying that he used to work all the time, and that he didn't sleep much at all.

    I spent a good 15 seconds swatting your avatar Laugh
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    Post by Since 1888 Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:53 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    StevieG wrote:quique sanchez flores
    he did v well at getafe, many a manager has one diffcult period, doesn't automatically make him a bad manager. i think koeman could come closer, in contrast one decent-ish job at PSV doesn't make him good manager either

    He did very good at Ajax also. Last coach to win them the national title.
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    Post by robert Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:38 pm

    crouching punty wrote:
    4) David Platt, Sampdoria 1998-99

    Azeglio Vicini, president of the Italian Coaches' Association,
    threatened to resign upon hearing of Platt's appointment on a
    three-year, £20,000-a-week contract which he described as "an insult to
    all Italian coaches", adding: "He's not even qualified to coach the
    reserve side." Indeed, Platt's lack of coaching qualifications and
    Italy's love of random regulations meant he could never even sit on his
    team's bench and was forced to work under the title of "supervisor"
    while Giorgio Veneri, who had no experience above Serie C level, was
    named manager. "To all intents and purposes, he is our coach," insisted
    the club president, Enrico Mantovani. Some people welcomed the
    appointment, Gianluca Vialli hailing "a visionary decision" and calling
    Platt "the future of football coaching". Perhaps, but it was a very
    short-term future. Platt resigned after 48 days and six games, having
    dropped the team's one good player, the Argentinian Ariel Ortega,
    signed Lee Sharpe on loan,
    Shocked earned three points and taken his team from
    13th (mid-table) to 17th (second bottom). By the end of that season
    Samp were in Serie B for the first time since 1982. SB

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    Post by Tweesus Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:37 pm

    Carlton Palmer!
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    Post by fcb Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:52 am

    EMP wrote:Ruud Gullit doesn't appear to be a great coach/manager and nor does Gianluca Vialli.

    Rumours are Gullit will take over at LA Galaxy. Wonder what Beckham and Donovan think of that Laughing
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    Post by EMP Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:34 am

    kas wrote:
    EMP wrote:Ruud Gullit doesn't appear to be a great coach/manager and nor does Gianluca Vialli.

    Rumours are Gullit will take over at LA Galaxy. Wonder what Beckham and Donovan think of that Laughing

    Runours are tat it was the idea of Beckham's management company.

    @ Stevie:
    Quique wasn't a bad coach even at Valencia. He kept us in the hunt until last couple of matches last sdeason with a train wreck of injuries and outright hostility of then technical director. He lost plot a bit this season, but massively unfair to label him a bad coach because of spell at Valencia; he wasn't.

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