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    Post by TM Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:38 pm

    Drogba CR Kaka Messi Robinho
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    Post by shazlx Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:40 pm

    El Gaffer™ wrote:Messi, Drogba, Kaka', Zlatan, Totti.

    I figured Ronaldo would get enough votes...
    and Messi/Kaka wont...
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    Post by bluenine Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:42 pm

    In that order??

    TM wrote:Drogba CR Kaka Messi Robinho
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    Post by fcb Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:53 pm

    1. Kaka
    2. Messi
    3. Ronaldo
    4. Riquelme
    5. Ibrahimovic
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:58 pm

    Assume its in the order written bluey.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:00 pm

    1. C.Ronaldo
    2. Messi
    3. Drogba
    4. Zlatan
    5. Kaka
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    Post by Since 1888 Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:02 pm

    Kaka
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:23 pm

    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:25 pm

    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:25 pm

    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.

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    Post by Tweesus Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:27 pm

    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.

    Too true. On the one side, Messi has got 25+ goals from a second forward position whilst on the other side Mutu has got 13 goals as a forward.

    Trés tough
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:40 pm

    El Gaffer™️ wrote:Messi, Drogba, Kaka', Zlatan, Totti.

    I figured Ronaldo would get enough votes...

    What kind of logic is that, if you reckon he should be top 5 vote for him! Biggrin

    I am going on the last whole season not just from 07 because that is not correct for me. Tempted to do a todo/gigliati and add rossi and rooney since there 07 is up there with anyone's but i wont.

    1. Ronaldo - If anyone has a season as good as his in the next few years then i cant wait to see it. He himself will take awhile to equal that.

    2. Kaka

    3. Ibra

    4. rooney - cant help myself Biggrin

    5. drogba.

    Would have included messi as num 2, but as kas says these things go over years, and Messi wasnt great in 2004. <Ale>
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    Post by robert Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:40 pm

    Ronaldo
    Ibrahimovic
    Kaka
    Totti
    Messi
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    Post by TM Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:43 pm

    bluenine wrote:In that order??

    TM wrote:Drogba CR Kaka Messi Robinho

    Yes. 1-5
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    Post by Bashmachkin Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:03 pm

    Where are these stats on Messi and Mutu from Tweeds? I have that Messi scored 17 goals in total last season, with 12 so far this season, compared to Mutu with 16 last season and 7 this, both in all club competitions. Im struggling to find a breakdown which shows 2007 isolated from the first half of last season. Its worth pointing out that Mutu has also scored six goals in 2007 alone for Romania, in their Euro qualifying campaign. And that Fiorentina, without their 15 point deduction last term, would have finished a comfortable third in Serie A, two points behind Roma. Plus I dont think Mutu really plays any further forward than Messi - hes a second striker in the same vein, playing behind Toni last season then Pazzini.
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    Post by bluenine Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:09 pm

    Tweedy is just biased against anything Serie A.

    While I haven't put Mutu in my top 5, I can totally understand why Gigli has put him - its as justified as anyone's list. Mutu was named the best player in Serie A last season, above Ibra, Totti, Kaka, etc. And he hasn't done too badly this season either... apart from the goals, Mutu also regularily has among the highest assists in Serie A. And has been a key reason for Romania's qualification.

    Also, Mutu plays as the support striker not as the main striker as tweedy seems to think. If only tweedy had seen a few games before judging someone elses choice... Laughing

    Merry ChristBash-machkin wrote:Where are these stats on Messi and Mutu from Tweeds? I have that Messi scored 17 goals in total last season, with 12 so far this season, compared to Mutu with 16 last season and 7 this, both in all club competitions. Im struggling to find a breakdown which shows 2007 isolated from the first half of last season. Its worth pointing out that Mutu has also scored six goals in 2007 alone for Romania, in their Euro qualifying campaign. And that Fiorentina, without their 15 point deduction last term, would have finished a comfortable third in Serie A, two points behind Roma. Plus I dont think Mutu really plays any further forward than Messi - hes a second striker in the same vein, playing behind Toni last season then Pazzini.
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    Post by S4P Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:24 pm

    1. DDA Drogba
    2. C Ronaldo
    3. Kaka
    4. Messi
    5. Ibra
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:47 pm

    Merry ChristBash-machkin wrote:Where are these stats on Messi and Mutu from Tweeds? I have that Messi scored 17 goals in total last season, with 12 so far this season, compared to Mutu with 16 last season and 7 this, both in all club competitions. Im struggling to find a breakdown which shows 2007 isolated from the first half of last season. Its worth pointing out that Mutu has also scored six goals in 2007 alone for Romania, in their Euro qualifying campaign. And that Fiorentina, without their 15 point deduction last term, would have finished a comfortable third in Serie A, two points behind Roma. Plus I dont think Mutu really plays any further forward than Messi - hes a second striker in the same vein, playing behind Toni last season then Pazzini.

    Mutu is undoubtedly a good player., certainly in the top 20 for this calendar year.

    I was being sarcasitic of course though. I thought the idea here was to put aside personal bias and include who you truly felt deserved the award - else I wouldn't have included Ibrah at least, and probably not Messi; at least so high.

    And Cesc would definately have been in there; hell its almost justifiable.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:53 pm

    bluenine wrote:Tweedy is just biased against anything Serie A.



    [quote="Tweesus of Nazareth"]1. C. Ronaldo
    2. Messi
    3. Kaka
    4. Zlatan
    5. Drogba

    I count two Serie Aians in there.

    bluenine wrote:
    1. Ibrahimovic
    2. Messi
    3. Kaka
    4. C Ronaldo
    5. Totti

    Who exactly is being biased here?

    Also, Mutu plays as the support striker not as the main striker as tweedy seems to think. If only tweedy had seen a few games before judging someone elses choice... Laughing

    Messi is more of a support forward I guess. What I meant was that Mutu plays 'up front' in the classical sense.

    And I have seen a few games - a few games, each of which he and the majority of the team have been shite in, losing two and drawing one (luckily as well).

    And its not as though I haven't seen him many times before either - he's a very good player but hardly 'the 2nd best player in the year this calendar year'
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:21 pm

    1 Drogba
    2 Kaka
    3 Messi
    4 Ronaldo
    5 Pirlo
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:25 pm

    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.
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    Post by Liverpool 0 - 1 Man U Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:38 pm

    2007 Only:

    1. C. Ronaldo
    2. Ibra
    3. Drogba
    4. Messi
    5. Kaka
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:39 pm

    1. Messi
    2. Ronaldo
    3. Drogba
    4. Kaka
    5. Rooney

    Won't vote for Totti because of Pierre.
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    Post by Gigliati Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:42 pm

    So what exactly is your problem here? Its my vote, isn't it? Like people already pointed out your statistics are wrong. Mutu was the best player of Serie A last season, so why is it so wrong to vote for him?

    Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:
    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.

    Too true. On the one side, Messi has got 25+ goals from a second forward position whilst on the other side Mutu has got 13 goals as a forward.

    Trés tough
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:01 pm

    Gigliati wrote:Like people already pointed out your statistics are wrong.

    Where?

    Mutu was the best player of Serie A last season

    You don't think Mutu or Ibrahemovic were better?

    This isn't a Serie A top 5 anyway. You honestly think evenhandedly that he was the 2nd beat player in the world for the calendar year?
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:06 pm

    Gigliati wrote:So what exactly is your problem here? Its my vote, isn't it? Like people already pointed out your statistics are wrong. Mutu was the best player of Serie A last season, so why is it so wrong to vote for him?

    Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:
    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.

    Too true. On the one side, Messi has got 25+ goals from a second forward position whilst on the other side Mutu has got 13 goals as a forward.

    Trés tough

    Question Totti, Materazzi and Ibra were all beter
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    Post by bluenine Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:06 pm

    Actually Gigli is right, Mutu won the award for the best player of Serie A 2006-07 season, surprisingly over Ibra and Totti.

    Agooner wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:So what exactly is your problem here? Its my vote, isn't it? Like people already pointed out your statistics are wrong. Mutu was the best player of Serie A last season, so why is it so wrong to vote for him?

    Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:
    Merry Krimbo wrote:
    jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
    Gigliati wrote:1. Ibra
    2. Mutu
    3. Eissen
    4. Totti
    5. Riquelme

    couldn't decide between Riquelme & robinho for 5th. Riquelme is my 6th
    I couldn't decide between Messi and Mutu for that 2nd spot. It was atough decision.

    Too true. On the one side, Messi has got 25+ goals from a second forward position whilst on the other side Mutu has got 13 goals as a forward.

    Trés tough

    Question Totti, Materazzi and Ibra were all beter
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    Post by Deano Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:08 pm

    1)Francesco Totti
    2)Cristiano Ronaldo
    3)Carlos Tevez
    4)Kaka
    5)Luca Toni
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    Post by bluenine Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:06 pm

    Closet Giallorossi Razz

    West Ham Snowman wrote:1)Francesco Totti
    2)Cristiano Ronaldo
    3)Carlos Tevez
    4)Kaka
    5)Luca Toni
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    Post by Deano Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:09 pm

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