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    Who will win the UEFA Cup

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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:31 am

    Ok so before the start of the season most people tipped Bayern to win the cup, but now we know which teams from the Champs will be joining the competition (plus Bayern's form hasnt been so good of late) who are people tipping to win the comp?
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:34 am

    Bayern Munich 7/2 Rangers 25/1 Galatasaray 100/1
    Ath Madrid 8/1 PSV Eindhoven 25/1 FC Zurich 100/1
    Tottenham 10/1 Sporting Lisbon 28/1 SC Braga 100/1
    Everton 10/1 Bayer Leverkusen 33/1 Nurnberg 125/1
    Villarreal 12/1 Panathinaikos 33/1 Anderlecht 125/1
    Hamburg 14/1 Marseille 40/1 Panionios 150/1
    Fiorentina 14/1 AEK Athens 50/1 Helsingborgs 150/1
    Werder Bremen 16/1 Zenit 50/1 Rennes 200/1
    Bordeaux 20/1 Basel 66/1 Aris Thessaloniki 200/1
    Getafe 20/1 Bolton 66/1 Mlada Boleslav 250/1
    AZ Alkmaar 20/1 Rosenborg 80/1 Dynamo Zagreb 400/1
    Spartak Moscow 25/1 Slavia Prague 80/1 SK Brann 500/1
    Benfica 25/1 Aberdeen 1000/1

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    Bayern are still the clear favourites but there are plenty of good outside bets.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:23 am

    1. Bayern
    2. Fiorentina
    3. Athletico
    4. Spurs
    5. Villareal

    Thats my ranking of the top favs
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    Post by StevieG Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:45 am

    i actually think spurs will tbh.
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    Post by Riviera Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:39 am

    Would be awesome if a spanish team won again, let's say athletico madrid
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    Post by Luso Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:57 am

    bluenine wrote:1. Bayern
    2. Fiorentina
    3. Athletico
    4. Spurs
    5. Villareal

    Thats my ranking of the top favs

    Everton is ahead of Fior...
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    Post by Luso Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:02 am

    Atlético Madrid, with the talent they have in offense will make any defence worried. I've seen they put up some poor defensive displays however and that could become a problem.

    Bayern has the most pressure on them to win no doubt, I don't know if they'll win, but they definitly have the right pieces.

    I'm guessing at least one of the 'favorites' will go out earlier than expected... so basically in the next round.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:36 am

    bluenine wrote:3. Athletico
    aaaaaggggghhhhhhh There's no effing H in it
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:38 am

    Villarreal
    Werder
    PSV
    Munchen
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    Post by golsud Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:57 am

    I'd like Atleti to win it. They haven't won anything for many years, their fans deserve it! It would be great that Atleti win a trophy and Madriz win f@ck all as well <Ale>
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    Post by bluenine Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:30 am

    Not in my list! Wink

    Luso wrote:
    bluenine wrote:1. Bayern
    2. Fiorentina
    3. Athletico
    4. Spurs
    5. Villareal

    Thats my ranking of the top favs

    Everton is ahead of Fior...
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    Post by bluenine Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:31 am

    I know, my bad. Was too sleepy when I wrote that...

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    bluenine wrote:3. Athletico
    aaaaaggggghhhhhhh There's no effing H in it
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:07 am

    Not sure I fancy Bayern.

    I quite honestly fancy one of Atletico or Villarreal.

    And of course we can't forget the strongest team by a fair distance, Fiorentina Ale
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:57 am

    we wont win it our defence is too bad
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    Post by briz Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:07 pm

    Benfica at 25/1?.......Must be worth an each way bet at that price!
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:09 pm

    I can't work out how Everton, with virtually no European experience can have such good odds! I mean look at them in comparison to PSV! If Everton draw PSV, they'll be out, I guarantee it. I expect them to maybe make the last 16, but not get beyond that.

    Experience is vital in the knockouts.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:12 pm

    Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:I can't work out how Everton, with virtually no European experience can have such good odds! I mean look at them in comparison to PSV! If Everton draw PSV, they'll be out, I guarantee it. I expect them to maybe make the last 16, but not get beyond that.

    Experience is vital in the knockouts.
    yet you think atletico may win it, our squad in general has pretty limited european experience
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    Post by Jaime Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:32 pm

    GETAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Luso Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:25 pm

    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:
    Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:I can't work out how Everton, with virtually no European experience can have such good odds! I mean look at them in comparison to PSV! If Everton draw PSV, they'll be out, I guarantee it. I expect them to maybe make the last 16, but not get beyond that.

    Experience is vital in the knockouts.
    yet you think atletico may win it, our squad in general has pretty limited european experience

    You do have Maniche, Simão and Reyes. Maxi being an Argie international has got to have what it takes.

    Still that defence...
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:29 pm

    I'm not too optimistic actually. Even if we play the great football we showed at the beginning of the season it might not be enough. The team still needs more experience in Europe and in knockout stages.

    You should also not forget about Bremen (definitely) and Hamburg (maybe).

    If Werder get their injured players back and sort out their defense they would have just the right mix to go very far.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:35 pm

    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:
    bluenine wrote:3. Athletico
    aaaaaggggghhhhhhh There's no effing H in it

    You sir, kicking up a fuss over someone's spelling lol!
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:36 pm

    Simao, Maniche, Reyes, Raul Garcia (Osasuna last year), Luis Garcia, Forlan, Mista, Motta

    Everton (to demonstrate the flaw in tweeds' argument)
    Gravesen, Howard, Stubbs, Pienaar, Arteta, Phil Neville, Nuno Valente, Wessels, Yakubu, Yobo, Cahill

    and our defence is sh¡t
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:38 pm

    Ade wrote:
    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:
    bluenine wrote:3. Athletico
    aaaaaggggghhhhhhh There's no effing H in it

    You sir, kicking up a fuss over someone's spelling lol!
    my spelling isn't bad its just my bloody typing.
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    Post by Luso Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:40 pm

    If Sporting can get Derlei back, have Djaló find some kind of decent form or find an OK striker, and bring in a LB I think our chances of going far will increase dramatically.

    Our midfield is good, if limited in numbers. Adrien Silva has finally broken into the squad however and I'm expecting good things from him just like when Moutinho came into the team.

    Although Rui Patrício has great talent I think it may simply be too early for him to be keeping goal at this high a level. He's definitly learning from it, and if he does well it'll help build his character, but for now he may just be too much of a liability as oppossed to Stojkovic.

    Sporting was unlucky not to progress in the CL, so I believe they have the quality - they just need to apply themselves.

    Comparing our chances with those of the clubs closest to us, I don't see Rangers being more likely than us of winning and I'd fancy our chances against PSV as we have a good record against the Dutch.

    I'd like to avoid the Spanish and Fior as we have extremely bad luck against the Italians.... they don't deserve to progress but do (Udinese etc.).
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    Post by Luso Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:48 pm

    Forgot about Luis Garcia and wasn't too sure about how much playing time Forlan had gotten with Man Utd... but he did play for Villarreal which I blanked on.

    Still, they're all midfield and forward players.

    Sporting: Moutinho, Liedson, Polga, Derlei (if we can get him back soon) - then there's the E. Euorpeans but I'm not entirerly sure how much they've played but I know they have: Stojkovic, Izmailov, Vukcevic, Purovic. I believe Izmailov has the most out of the eastern group.

    In an ideal situation Purovic won't be playing.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:29 am

    Luso wrote:Forgot about Luis Garcia and wasn't too sure about how much playing time Forlan had gotten with Man Utd... but he did play for Villarreal which I blanked on.
    i forgot seitaradis myself, one defender, and he's sh¡te anyway.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:13 pm

    Ramos for the Hat-trick !
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:17 pm

    in your dreams
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    Post by Effenberg Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:56 pm

    Bayern's road to the quarters looks pretty easy. Let's hope it is.
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    Post by Puro Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:08 pm

    This UEFA Cup looks loaded doesn't it! It helps a lot that an Italian team appears to be somewhat focused in this tourney. <Ale>

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