HomeToni Kroos wrote:i watched the game, real is playing very attractive
why cant bayern play like you, maybe with klinsi
Because they don't have Robben, Drenthe & RVN
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Real Madrid vs. Roma Discussion Thread
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Because they don't have Robben, Drenthe & RVN
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BoBo Vieri wrote:BM wrote:I've said it, Madrid deserved much more out of the game, but to say Roma were a disgrace is a disgrace in itself.
We made a plan to attack, it backfired. We played more cautiously and won. How are we a disgrace?
I just watched this game now. I felt Madrid deserved a draw but Roma definitely improved on their league form.
A draw would have been fair but the truth is Roma have a very slender lead going into the return leg. And if we aren't capable of beating them convincingly at home then we deserve to go out.
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La Liga Loca's comments on the game...very funny as usual 
"It was a great game between two attacking sides and I think the second leg is very open. It could be even better than this one", was what Bernd Schuster should have said after Real Madrid's 2-1 defeat to Roma, on Tuesday night, a match where El Pais felt that his side "lacked the fertility of other days".
But instead, Bernado decided to switch to his default misery-guts mode and jabbed the finger of footballing blame firmly in the direction of Herr Herbert Fandel, Tuesday's man in the middle.
"He doesn't deserve to be a countryman of mine", blasted Bernd. "He was a homer...he blew almost all of the time in favour of Roma", continued the moustachioed moaner as he added Germany to Catalunya in the short list of places where he feels referees have it in for him.
Of course, Real Madrid's myopic manager is happily overlooking Raul's outrageous dive that brought a yellow for Di Rossi and Robben's outrageous dive that brought a dangerous free kick for the visitors.
And not to mention the fact that Diarra was a gnat's duvet away from being sent off for two yellows, something even Marca feel would have been a fair call.
Looking ahead though and AS' Tomas Roncero is very,very excited about the prospect of the second leg at the Bernabeu, in Wednesday's post partido piece.
"There will be 85,000 throats ripped with emotion,when, in the 90th minute, Real Madrid go through to the quarters, while a tearful Sergio Ramos applauds from the stands (watching) the heroes of the 5th March and...the greatest club of all time".
The man is either utterly insane or desperately needs to get laid. La Liga Loca-ettes. It's time to do your duty.
Marca's very own loon, Roberto Gomez, tells his readers about his lovely day out in Rome. But more importantly, he tells his readers about all the very, very important people he met as he merrily went about his day.
The highlight for the raving-mad Roberto was "finding himself with the prestigious cardiologist, doctor Gomez-Angulom, who came over from Malaga especially to see the game".
Baring in mind that Gomez' recent columns have consisted of glowing tributes to his favourite restaurant, repeated claims to the greatness of Florentino Perez and a plug for some flats that his construction magnate mate is trying to flog, La Liga Loca suspects Gomez is looking for a spot of surgery on the cheap. Possibly to have his head removed from his ***.
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TM wrote:Roma full-back Cicinho is furious at being left out of yesterday’s match with Real Madrid, and has demanded a transfer from the club, according to Il Messagero.
The Brazilian only signed for the Giallorossi in the summer from Real, however he has featured sparingly in the Italian capital.
He has made just six starts in Serie A, and was left out of the recent weekend defeat to Juventus.
Cicinho was made to believe that this was because he was set to play against his former employers in the Champions League last 16 first leg clash at the Stadio Olimpico last night.
However the 27-year-old was again snubbed, and upon learning of his omission, he is believed to have immediately demanded that he be transfer listed.
Roma agreed to the player’s proposal and said that he would be sold in the summer.
Cicinho had been looking forward to this game for several weeks, and had done a number of interviews in the Italian and Spanish press in recent days.
He is becoming really annoying, was he this childish at Madrid?
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BM wrote:TM wrote:Roma full-back Cicinho is furious at being left out of yesterday’s match with Real Madrid, and has demanded a transfer from the club, according to Il Messagero.
The Brazilian only signed for the Giallorossi in the summer from Real, however he has featured sparingly in the Italian capital.
He has made just six starts in Serie A, and was left out of the recent weekend defeat to Juventus.
Cicinho was made to believe that this was because he was set to play against his former employers in the Champions League last 16 first leg clash at the Stadio Olimpico last night.
However the 27-year-old was again snubbed, and upon learning of his omission, he is believed to have immediately demanded that he be transfer listed.
Roma agreed to the player’s proposal and said that he would be sold in the summer.
Cicinho had been looking forward to this game for several weeks, and had done a number of interviews in the Italian and Spanish press in recent days.
He is becoming really annoying, was he this childish at Madrid?
Even more so! Which is why were happy to let him f*ck off to Roma. Don't worry, he will get more annoying and then you'll see what I'm talking about.
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Do you guy's think Robinho was missed? Just looking at some CL stats, and he's scored 4 goals and made 3 assists. Possibly the best stats in the CL thus far.
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Calidad wrote:Do you guy's think Robinho was missed? Just looking at some CL stats, and he's scored 4 goals and made 3 assists. Possibly the best stats in the CL thus far.
Hell yes, they were murdering the wings and they really could have used Robinho. I just know he is going to murder us at the Bernabeu.
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Calidad wrote:Do you guy's think Robinho was missed? Just looking at some CL stats, and he's scored 4 goals and made 3 assists. Possibly the best stats in the CL thus far.
Definitely. Robben caused a lot of problems and he is still not 100% match fit. Robinho has been our most dyanmic attacking player this season. I think we will play both of them in the Bernabeu and hopefully that will be a key to unlocking Roma, who will no doubt sit back and try to counter.
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I'm looking forward to the second leg already!
Having beaten such a good Real Madrid in the 1st leg feels like having managed to shag a top class hottie on a lucky night. In which case you just have to enjoy the feeling, dont call her, and wait until next time you see her (2nd leg), which is when she could probably realise you were not that fit and the dream could be over… However if you play smart and act cool you may be able to fool her a 2nd time, which is when she gives up and you can call the shots. Forza Roma!
Having beaten such a good Real Madrid in the 1st leg feels like having managed to shag a top class hottie on a lucky night. In which case you just have to enjoy the feeling, dont call her, and wait until next time you see her (2nd leg), which is when she could probably realise you were not that fit and the dream could be over… However if you play smart and act cool you may be able to fool her a 2nd time, which is when she gives up and you can call the shots. Forza Roma!
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Do you really feel that Real are that much better then Roma? i had roma as the team i least wanted to meet in last 16 allthough i have been a little disapointed by roma i think they shouldnt be far from each other in terms of quality. on their first 11 i think roma can match most teams allthough i think they will be even better next year or year after that when aquilani gets matured. rossi-aquilani will great but i think they have to hold on to mancini and get someone of similar quality on the other flank.il piccolo Coccodrillo wrote:I'm looking forward to the second leg already!
Having beaten such a good Real Madrid in the 1st leg feels like having managed to shag a top class hottie on a lucky night. In which case you just have to enjoy the feeling, dont call her, and wait until next time you see her (2nd leg), which is when she could probably realise you were not that fit and the dream could be over… However if you play smart and act cool you may be able to fool her a 2nd time, which is when she gives up and you can call the shots. Forza Roma!
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supermadrid wrote:Do you really feel that Real are that much better then Roma? i had roma as the team i least wanted to meet in last 16 allthough i have been a little disapointed by roma i think they shouldnt be far from each other in terms of quality. on their first 11 i think roma can match most teams allthough i think they will be even better next year or year after that when aquilani gets matured. rossi-aquilani will great but i think they have to hold on to mancini and get someone of similar quality on the other flank.il piccolo Coccodrillo wrote:I'm looking forward to the second leg already!
Having beaten such a good Real Madrid in the 1st leg feels like having managed to shag a top class hottie on a lucky night. In which case you just have to enjoy the feeling, dont call her, and wait until next time you see her (2nd leg), which is when she could probably realise you were not that fit and the dream could be over… However if you play smart and act cool you may be able to fool her a 2nd time, which is when she gives up and you can call the shots. Forza Roma!
I'm talking about the particular night, I feel we were genuinely lucky to come away with the win.
I agree with what you've said.
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Cassetti is out for 3 weeks and Panucci is only a 50/50. Cicinho looks like he will get a start against his old team but I have a feeling Spalla will do everything he can to not play him in the match.
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Re: Real Madrid vs. Roma Discussion Thread
by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:50 pm
il piccolo Coccodrillo wrote:Cassetti is out for 3 weeks and Panucci is only a 50/50. Cicinho looks like he will get a start against his old team but I have a feeling Spalla will do everything he can to not play him in the match.
Cicinho, IMO, has done well for you when has come on.
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Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:il piccolo Coccodrillo wrote:Cassetti is out for 3 weeks and Panucci is only a 50/50. Cicinho looks like he will get a start against his old team but I have a feeling Spalla will do everything he can to not play him in the match.
Cicinho, IMO, has done well for you when has come on.
At RM? Yes, very much so. I don't trust him at RB and neither does Spalletti.
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Real Madrid have been dealt a potentially huge blow ahead of next week’s Champions League last 16 second leg, as Ruud Van Nistelrooy is set to miss out due to injury.
Madrid are currently in the midst of a dreadful run of form, having lost three of their last four La Liga matches.
They welcome Roma to the Santiago Bernabeu hoping to overturn a 2-1 deficit from the first leg in the Eternal City.
Marca says that Van Nistelrooy ankle injury will almost definitely rule him out of the game, adding to Madrid’s lengthy injury list.
Meanwhile Fabio Cannavaro has given his view ahead of the game, and he has some words of praise for Roma.
“I hope Roma’s chances of eliminating us are very bad,” he told Radio Deejay.
“Certainly Luciano Spalletti’s side proved in the first leg they are a great team, attentive and who let Real play, but still had their scoring opportunities and made the most of them.
“Playing the second leg on home turf is always an advantage. As for a prediction, I would be more than happy with a 1-0 scoreline.”
Bye Bye CL?
Madrid are currently in the midst of a dreadful run of form, having lost three of their last four La Liga matches.
They welcome Roma to the Santiago Bernabeu hoping to overturn a 2-1 deficit from the first leg in the Eternal City.
Marca says that Van Nistelrooy ankle injury will almost definitely rule him out of the game, adding to Madrid’s lengthy injury list.
Meanwhile Fabio Cannavaro has given his view ahead of the game, and he has some words of praise for Roma.
“I hope Roma’s chances of eliminating us are very bad,” he told Radio Deejay.
“Certainly Luciano Spalletti’s side proved in the first leg they are a great team, attentive and who let Real play, but still had their scoring opportunities and made the most of them.
“Playing the second leg on home turf is always an advantage. As for a prediction, I would be more than happy with a 1-0 scoreline.”
Bye Bye CL?
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Cicinho was AWESOME. He was involved in all 4 goals yesterday, he should ALWAYS play as a RM instead of a Fullback.
Pizarro has picked up an injury so it looks like Aquilani will get to start alongside De Rossi on Wednesday.
Totti scored a cracker and looks to be back in form and Vucinic has been excellent as a wide player, I'd start him in Madrid.
Pizarro has picked up an injury so it looks like Aquilani will get to start alongside De Rossi on Wednesday.
Totti scored a cracker and looks to be back in form and Vucinic has been excellent as a wide player, I'd start him in Madrid.
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Ruud, Ramos and Guti all out for the game it seems.
The Defence:
Torres Cannavaro Pepe Heinze
It's a pretty solid back line, Mancini vs Torres will be an interesting battle, i wasnt too impressed by Torres at the week end, and Mancini is a class player, this battle will be crucial in the outcome of the tie.
Otherthan that it wil be Totti upfront on his own, so the defence should be able to cope. With Pepe back we have some aerial threat in the opposition box aswell to counter the Roma attack.
The Midfield.
Double Pivote or the Triple Pivote?
In Rome the triple Pivote out muscled and outran the Roma midfield in their back yard, and when you taking into consideration Roma's midfield is packed with 5/6 players, that was quite an achievement.
Guti not being able to play is a blow, his ability to make defence splitting passes would be key. Although our best chances came from wing play in the first leg, Bernd may opt with Robinho and Drenthe/Robben on the wings, the latter is doubtful after being on the receiving end of a horrific challenge.
Robinho Vs Cicinho could also be a key battle with Cicinho unable to track back regardless if he plays right back or right midfield, leaving open spaces for Robinho to run into
Upfront:
Dilemma's dilemmas! Baptista managed to net 50 goals for Sevilla playing realtively upfront, but doesnt prefer that role, his physical presence will ruffle Mexes' feathers
Raul always springs into action in the CL, and got a goal at the weekend so confidence will be high, theres always Saviola and Soldado neither who has impressed the coach.
Probable team:
------------------Casillas
Torres------Cannavaro----Pepe----Heinze
Drenthe-------Gago------Diarra------Robinho
----------------------Raul
--------------------Baptista
One thing to keep in mind.
Soldado came on to score a vital goal in the CL a while ago
The Defence:
Torres Cannavaro Pepe Heinze
It's a pretty solid back line, Mancini vs Torres will be an interesting battle, i wasnt too impressed by Torres at the week end, and Mancini is a class player, this battle will be crucial in the outcome of the tie.
Otherthan that it wil be Totti upfront on his own, so the defence should be able to cope. With Pepe back we have some aerial threat in the opposition box aswell to counter the Roma attack.
The Midfield.
Double Pivote or the Triple Pivote?
In Rome the triple Pivote out muscled and outran the Roma midfield in their back yard, and when you taking into consideration Roma's midfield is packed with 5/6 players, that was quite an achievement.
Guti not being able to play is a blow, his ability to make defence splitting passes would be key. Although our best chances came from wing play in the first leg, Bernd may opt with Robinho and Drenthe/Robben on the wings, the latter is doubtful after being on the receiving end of a horrific challenge.
Robinho Vs Cicinho could also be a key battle with Cicinho unable to track back regardless if he plays right back or right midfield, leaving open spaces for Robinho to run into
Upfront:
Dilemma's dilemmas! Baptista managed to net 50 goals for Sevilla playing realtively upfront, but doesnt prefer that role, his physical presence will ruffle Mexes' feathers
Raul always springs into action in the CL, and got a goal at the weekend so confidence will be high, theres always Saviola and Soldado neither who has impressed the coach.
Probable team:
------------------Casillas
Torres------Cannavaro----Pepe----Heinze
Drenthe-------Gago------Diarra------Robinho
----------------------Raul
--------------------Baptista
One thing to keep in mind.
Soldado came on to score a vital goal in the CL a while ago
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After today's training session Spalletti released the squad list for Wednesday's match:
1 GIANLUCA CURCI
2 CHRISTIAN PANUCCI
3 CICERO JOAO DE CEZARE (CICINHO)
4 JUAN SILVEIRA DOS SANTOS
5 PHILIPPE MEXES
7 DAVID MARCELO CORTES PIZARRO
8 ALBERTO AQUILANI
9 MIRKO VUCINIC
10 FRANCESCO TOTTI
11 RODRIGO FERRANTE TADDEI
14 LUDOVIC GIULY
15 VITORINO GABRIEL PACHECO ANTUNES
16 DANIELE DE ROSSI
18 MAURO ESPOSITO
20 SIMONE PERROTTA
21 MATTEO FERRARI
22 MAX TONETTO
25 CARLO ZOTTI
27 JULIO SERGIO BERTAGNOLI
30 MANCINI ALESSANDRO FAIOLHE AMANTINO
32 DONIEBER ALEXANDER MARANGON (DONI)
33 MATTEO BRIGHI
I must admit that I'm disappointed to see Pizarro's name on there. I was hoping what ever bump he had would keep him in Roma. Him making the trip will most likely conclude in him being in the starting eleven. Hopefully Spalletti sees what everyone else sees (Inter included) that Alberto is an extraordinary talent that needs to play at every instance.
My starting line up would be:
----------------Doni-----------------
Panucci---Mexes---Juan---Tonetto
---------De Rossi---Aquilani--------
---Mancini---Perrotta---Vucinic---
---------------Totti-----------------
The probable Starting Line up will be:
----------------Doni-----------------
Panucci---Mexes---Juan---Tonetto
---------De Rossi---Pizarro--------
---Taddei---Perrotta---Mancini---
---------------Totti-----------------
Spalletti doesn't leave much to experimentation, luckily Taddei and Perrotta have come into much better form the last couple of weeks.
1 GIANLUCA CURCI
2 CHRISTIAN PANUCCI
3 CICERO JOAO DE CEZARE (CICINHO)
4 JUAN SILVEIRA DOS SANTOS
5 PHILIPPE MEXES
7 DAVID MARCELO CORTES PIZARRO
8 ALBERTO AQUILANI
9 MIRKO VUCINIC
10 FRANCESCO TOTTI
11 RODRIGO FERRANTE TADDEI
14 LUDOVIC GIULY
15 VITORINO GABRIEL PACHECO ANTUNES
16 DANIELE DE ROSSI
18 MAURO ESPOSITO
20 SIMONE PERROTTA
21 MATTEO FERRARI
22 MAX TONETTO
25 CARLO ZOTTI
27 JULIO SERGIO BERTAGNOLI
30 MANCINI ALESSANDRO FAIOLHE AMANTINO
32 DONIEBER ALEXANDER MARANGON (DONI)
33 MATTEO BRIGHI
I must admit that I'm disappointed to see Pizarro's name on there. I was hoping what ever bump he had would keep him in Roma. Him making the trip will most likely conclude in him being in the starting eleven. Hopefully Spalletti sees what everyone else sees (Inter included) that Alberto is an extraordinary talent that needs to play at every instance.
My starting line up would be:
----------------Doni-----------------
Panucci---Mexes---Juan---Tonetto
---------De Rossi---Aquilani--------
---Mancini---Perrotta---Vucinic---
---------------Totti-----------------
The probable Starting Line up will be:
----------------Doni-----------------
Panucci---Mexes---Juan---Tonetto
---------De Rossi---Pizarro--------
---Taddei---Perrotta---Mancini---
---------------Totti-----------------
Spalletti doesn't leave much to experimentation, luckily Taddei and Perrotta have come into much better form the last couple of weeks.
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Robben KO 
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TM wrote:Robben KO
So is Van Nistelrooy. So this means that we'll be missing out on:
Robben, RVN, Saviola, Metzelder, Ramos (suspension), and Sneijder
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Torrente wrote:TM wrote:Robben KO
So is Van Nistelrooy. So this means that we'll be missing out on:
Robben, RVN, Saviola, Metzelder, Ramos (suspension), and Sneijder
Time to leave it to Robinho and Drenthe
....who to go for as captain of my FF team : Raul or Robinho ?
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Torrente wrote:TM wrote:Robben KO
So is Van Nistelrooy. So this means that we'll be missing out on:
Robben, RVN, Saviola, Metzelder, Ramos (suspension), and Sneijder
wow seems a good chance Real Madrid will be going out. I read some comments from Madrid fans talking about the midfield and attack, but that defence will be the problem. Pepe is just back from awhile out, Heinze is very dodgy, Torres is still young and makes mistakes. Casillas has to be on top form tonight.
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L r d wrote:Torrente wrote:TM wrote:Robben KO
So is Van Nistelrooy. So this means that we'll be missing out on:
Robben, RVN, Saviola, Metzelder, Ramos (suspension), and Sneijder
wow seems a good chance Real Madrid will be going out. I read some comments from Madrid fans talking about the midfield and attack, but that defence will be the problem. Pepe is just back from awhile out, Heinze is very dodgy, Torres is still young and makes mistakes. Casillas has to be on top form tonight.
Actually, the defense is what I'm least worried about.
Pepe/Heinze/Cannararo all work very well together. Torres could be a liability, but at least in defensive work he tends to be quite sound. Heinze and Pepe are not match-fit, but both have shown a great ability to start playing well immediately after coming back from injury.
The problem with our midfield is that Guti is already quite inconsistent, and to add on he's just coming back from injury. Raul is not a real number 9 and our right wing is bound to experience some problems. We'll probably see either Guti or Bapstista play there as "fake" RW, and Torres isn't good enough offensively to cause problems.
For this reason I'd prefer if Drenthe plays RW and we leave Diarra on the bench, so we actually manage to stretch Roma in the wings. However, I think Schuster is more likely to play the trivote with Diarra/Gago/Guti, and this could cause us some problems. We should really go all out attack against Roma.
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CONVOCATORIA:
Porteros: Casillas y Dudek.
Defensas: Cannavaro, Marcelo, Pepe, Salgado, Heinze y Torres.
Centrocampistas: Diarra, Guti, Gago, Baptista, Drenthe y Balboa.
Delanteros: Higuaín, Robinho, Soldado y Raúl.
No convocados: Metzelder, Van Nistelrooy, Robben y Sneijder por lesión; Codina y Saviola por decisión técnica, y Sergio Ramos por sanción.
Porteros: Casillas y Dudek.
Defensas: Cannavaro, Marcelo, Pepe, Salgado, Heinze y Torres.
Centrocampistas: Diarra, Guti, Gago, Baptista, Drenthe y Balboa.
Delanteros: Higuaín, Robinho, Soldado y Raúl.
No convocados: Metzelder, Van Nistelrooy, Robben y Sneijder por lesión; Codina y Saviola por decisión técnica, y Sergio Ramos por sanción.
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Lineup predicted by Marca:
---------------------Casillas
Torres-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
-----------Guti-----Gago-----Diarra
----------------Raul-----------------Robinho
--------------------J. Baptista
---------------------Casillas
Torres-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
-----------Guti-----Gago-----Diarra
----------------Raul-----------------Robinho
--------------------J. Baptista
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Revista Predicted:
-------------------Casillas
Torres------Cannavaro----Pepe----Heinze
------------Diarra---Gago----Baptista
----------Robinho---Raul-----Guti
Marca one looks more likely...
-------------------Casillas
Torres------Cannavaro----Pepe----Heinze
------------Diarra---Gago----Baptista
----------Robinho---Raul-----Guti
Marca one looks more likely...
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No Dutchies? That spells disaster...
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AcciDrenthe wrote:No Dutchies? That spells disaster...
Indeed, the Clueless Schuster still refuses to play Drenthe
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If robinho plays bad we could well be going out. there is alot of pressure on him to deliver and hopefully it wont get to him since he is prob still a bit rusty.Jaime wrote:Lineup predicted by Marca:
---------------------Casillas
Torres-----Cannavaro-----Pepe-----Heinze
-----------Guti-----Gago-----Diarra
----------------Raul-----------------Robinho
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