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    Post by L.r.d Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:27 am

    I saw just now on another forum people debating this subject. The majority seem to think Adebayor is nowhere near Drogba.
    Are they really that far apart?

    They both took a year or so to settle in the premier league, Drogba's initial bad start doesn't seem to cloud anyone's judgement, but lots still see Adebayor as this clumsy big guy who misses numerous chances.

    Adebayor is just 23 i am not sure where Drogba was when he was 23, he is strong, quick, skillful, good on the ball and now scored often. Drogba is very similar apart from heading i am not sure where the huge differences are.

    I would prefer Adebayor in my team and this season he has been the best striker in the premiership. <Ale>
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:29 am

    Was having this very argument last night while watching MOTD.

    Drogba is the better, more proven forward with a more complete and consistent game.

    Adebayor has been better this season, but we've no idea if it'll last because to my knowledge he's never had one like it before.

    I think Drogba is streaks ahead, but I'd probably sign Adebayor simply due to the age issue.
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    Post by S4P Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:25 am

    Don't think Adebayor can do the lone striker role as well as Drogba. Then again I don't think any striker in the world can. Wouldn't swap Adebayor for Drogs but I think that Adebayor is a phenomenal player, certainly one of Wenger's better moves was letting Henry go.
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    Post by S4P Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:27 am

    L r d wrote:Drogba is very similar apart from heading i am not sure where the huge differences are

    Only main difference is holding the ball up. While Adebayor can hold the ball up, I don't think he can use it to his own advantage (i.e. then go beyond the defender with sheer power like Drogba can).
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:17 am

    Emmanuel Adebayor 2007/2008

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    League: 20(1) - 15 Goals
    Champions League: 3(2) - 0 Goals
    FA Cup: 1 - 2 Goals
    League Cup: (1) - 1 Goal

    TOTAL: 24(4) - 18 Goals

    Honestly I have to admit that I have been proven wrong at how good a footballer Adebayor can be. Personally I thought he would be a good squad rotation player and nothing more for Arsenal. At the moment he is probably one of the first names on the teamsheet, it shows a huge improvement from last year when his game showed many inconsistencies. He still needs to work on some areas of his game but his first touch and movement is now much better. Drogba is the complete striker at the moment, but at 23 you can see already that Adebayor will be there in a few seasons time. It took Drogba two seasons in England to become the monster he is today.

    Despite his amazing domestic form, his European record is not the best. Infact he hasn't even registered a single Champions League goal at Arsenal. To be considered as one of the best, you have to do it on that stage.

    AC Milan would be a great start. <Ale>
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    Post by Hlebagone Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:24 am

    I agree with what S4P said - Drogba is the better lone player as he is able to hold the ball up far better on his own. That said, Adebayor is faster which gives him another dimension. Its easy to see why defenders like Vidic think hes one of the most difficult players to finish against.
    If Adebayor keeps up this seasons form, and scores in the knockout stages of the champions league, then ill probably rate them equal. But not yet.
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    Post by Batman Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:29 am

    Adebayor has played really well when Wenger has played 4-5-1 this season.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:30 am

    L r d wrote:I saw just now on another forum people debating this subject. The majority seem to think Adebayor is nowhere near Drogba.
    Are they really that far apart?

    They both took a year or so to settle in the premier league, Drogba's initial bad start doesn't seem to cloud anyone's judgement, but lots still see Adebayor as this clumsy big guy who misses numerous chances.

    Adebayor is just 23 i am not sure where Drogba was when he was 23, he is strong, quick, skillful, good on the ball and now scored often. Drogba is very similar apart from heading i am not sure where the huge differences are.

    I would prefer Adebayor in my team and this season he has been the best striker in the premiership. <Ale>

    Because there wasn't one.

    4 mins into English football and he embarrasses Keane before setting up the winner against the best club in the Premiership era.

    He got most assists in the Prem during his 1st season i think scratch

    Adebayor will go on to be a much better player but Drogba is slightly ahead right now.
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    Post by Hlebagone Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:32 am

    Batman wrote:Adebayor has played really well when Wenger has played 4-5-1 this season.

    Yeh, but i dont think Adebayor would be as effective in Chelseas 4-5-1/4-3-3 system as there are far more long balls in the air to deal with and Drogba needs to provide more lay offs. With our 4-5-1, Adebayor spends a lot of the time running in the channels and then playing the ball off, which he is better at.
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    Post by Batman Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:34 am

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Batman wrote:Adebayor has played really well when Wenger has played 4-5-1 this season.

    Yeh, but i dont think Adebayor would be as effective in Chelseas 4-5-1/4-3-3 system as there are far more long balls in the air to deal with and Drogba needs to provide more lay offs. With our 4-5-1, Adebayor spends a lot of the time running in the channels and then playing the ball off, which he is better at.

    So how do you think Drogba would do in the Arsenal system?
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    Post by Hlebagone Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:35 am

    Batman wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Batman wrote:Adebayor has played really well when Wenger has played 4-5-1 this season.

    Yeh, but i dont think Adebayor would be as effective in Chelseas 4-5-1/4-3-3 system as there are far more long balls in the air to deal with and Drogba needs to provide more lay offs. With our 4-5-1, Adebayor spends a lot of the time running in the channels and then playing the ball off, which he is better at.

    So how do you think Drogba would do in the Arsenal system?

    I'm sure he'd manage Laughing
    He's easily a good enogh footbalkl to be able to fit in, but not qite as tailored to our style of player than Adebayor is.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:31 pm

    Lets see what Adebayor does for the rest of 2007-08 and 2008-09.
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    Post by Torrente Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:41 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r d wrote:I saw just now on another forum people debating this subject. The majority seem to think Adebayor is nowhere near Drogba.
    Are they really that far apart?

    They both took a year or so to settle in the premier league, Drogba's initial bad start doesn't seem to cloud anyone's judgement, but lots still see Adebayor as this clumsy big guy who misses numerous chances.

    Adebayor is just 23 i am not sure where Drogba was when he was 23, he is strong, quick, skillful, good on the ball and now scored often. Drogba is very similar apart from heading i am not sure where the huge differences are.

    I would prefer Adebayor in my team and this season he has been the best striker in the premiership. <Ale>

    Because there wasn't one.

    4 mins into English football and he embarrasses Keane before setting up the winner against the best club in the Premiership era.

    He got most assists in the Prem during his 1st season i think scratch

    Adebayor will go on to be a much better player but Drogba is slightly ahead right now.

    I would agree with Pierre here that Drogbas so called "bad start" was greatly exaggerated. He always looked like a class player despite his initial lack of composure in front of goal. Lampard owed a big percentage of his goals to Drogba's work.

    I think that one reason why people were so quick to jump in Drogba's back was because of his cheating behavior. He did some disgraceful stuff in his first season which got people to focus on his bad finishing and disregard his virtues.
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    Post by S4P Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:42 pm

    Pierre & Torrente have hit the nail on the head. Ale
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    Post by Luis Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:52 pm

    Adebayor could just be a one season wonder. Mind you Drogba wasn't brilliant in his first season or so and came alive in his second.

    For me though, Ade has been the best striker in the league this season, he must be a nightmare to play against.
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    Post by The Bulk Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:02 pm

    Gordon Strachan was interested in Adebayor when he was 19. He brought him over to Southampton but thought he was too arrogant, if I remember correctly, and therefore didn't sign him.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/3083937.stm

    I love his style of play. He's a fantastic player. Would a strike force comprised of Adebayor and Drogba be successful, or are they too similar to successfully integrate together? I would like to see it!

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    Post by Cesc Soler Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:09 pm

    Interesting you say that as West Ham were on the verge of signing him during the Summer of 2005. They agreed a fee as well as personal terms with the player. However Monaco pulled the plug at the last minute.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/4738791.stm

    Both players are very dominant in the attacking area of the pitch, so I' not sure how they would work together. You never know though ...
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    Post by Romford Pele Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:36 pm

    18 in 24 is a ridiculous goal scoring record!
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    Post by L.r.d Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:42 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r d wrote:I saw just now on another forum people debating this subject. The majority seem to think Adebayor is nowhere near Drogba.
    Are they really that far apart?

    They both took a year or so to settle in the premier league, Drogba's initial bad start doesn't seem to cloud anyone's judgement, but lots still see Adebayor as this clumsy big guy who misses numerous chances.

    Adebayor is just 23 i am not sure where Drogba was when he was 23, he is strong, quick, skillful, good on the ball and now scored often. Drogba is very similar apart from heading i am not sure where the huge differences are.

    I would prefer Adebayor in my team and this season he has been the best striker in the premiership. <Ale>

    Because there wasn't one.

    4 mins into English football and he embarrasses Keane before setting up the winner against the best club in the Premiership era.


    See you say there wasnt a bad start, and then use his first game where he was horrific, didn't look like he could control a ball, and his assist if i remember rightly was more his bad control than anything to prove this. It's just bizarre your logic sometimes. I remember it because i saw marseille v newcastle and expected that drogba to turn up, but he certainly was nothing like that. Keane was playing cb and djemba djemba p neville in midfield it was hardly a class side anyway.

    His first season wasnt a disaster but he wasnt great by any means. And the majority of people didn't rate him after it, and pundits and co thought he had been a flop. Yet these same people now forget that season. This is more my point.
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    Post by Black Magic Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:55 pm

    http://www.megavideo.com/?v=JZLFJ8X9

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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:38 pm

    I said last year after seeing Ade play his first couple of games, that he is much like Crouch except with pace.
    He seemed to get shrugged off the ball alot and while he had some very good games, he also went missing in many as well.
    But clearly he has learned and stepped up his game.

    This season he hasn't suprised me he is doing well, but what has suprised me is his goal tally this season. It has been sensational.
    He is also using himself more effectively in regards to his size and strength as well.

    Comparing him to Drogba is a fair point.
    He has more pace and is probably more athletic than Drogba but he still has some doing to be better than Drogba, who has many trophys under his belt.
    Their is no doubt he can be better and with his age and under Wenger he could go on to be one of the best in the world.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:40 pm

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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:51 pm

    Adebayor's movement is shit - he makes some really retarded runs.

    He is good at pretty much everything else and his stats are great even when he is a bit half-arsed.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:03 pm

    he's a rich man's Kenwyne Jones and a poor man's Drogba. Top 10 in the league but miles from the top 5 and certainly not world class.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:17 pm

    Maxi Rodríglenn wrote:he's a rich man's Kenwyne Jones and a poor man's Drogba. Top 10 in the league but miles from the top 5 and certainly not world class.

    If you mean in the EPL - bollocks.

    If you mean in the world - not that far off.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:25 pm

    he's not in the same league as Drogba, Rooney, Torres, Van Persie and Manucho, He's in the B group with the likes of Defoe, Berbatov, Saha, Tevez and Beattie.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:46 am

    If we're doing a top five... (which we are, damn you !!!!)

    1/2/3 = Torres, Rooney and Drogba
    4 = RVP
    5 = Adebayor.

    IMO.

    Tevez has been very impressive this season though.
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:22 am

    Tevez puts in three and a half impressive seasons for three different clubs, and somehow doesn't make the top 5.

    Van Persie puts in one good season in 6 or 7 attempts, all for the same club, and somehow makes the top 5.


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    Post by Tweesus Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:30 am

    lol!

    Tevez only played well for West Ham for the last 10 games.

    He did well at Utd but he was hardly top 5 of the EPL quality. Its only this season he's combined his work rate with effectiveness.

    Don't just look at RVP's goals - its his assists that count as well.


    ---------------pld------scd-----asst
    06-07---------22-------11------7
    07/08---------15-------7-------3
    08/09---------28-------11------10
    09/10---------11--------7-------7

    If you don't think that's top 5 of the EPL quality then you're an idiot.
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:39 am

    Tweesus wrote:lol!

    Tevez only played well for West Ham for the last 10 games.

    And kept them in the league. Van Persie has never achieved ANYTHING of note for Arsenal. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever.

    He did well at Utd but he was hardly top 5 of the EPL quality.

    Did he not win two league titles and a CL title as a key part of that team?

    Tell me, how many EPL titles has Van Persie helped his side to? Any? Any other trophies? Any other achievements of note?

    Its only this season he's combined his work rate with effectiveness.

    Simply. Not. True.

    Don't just look at RVP's goals - its his assists that count as well.


    ---------------pld------scd-----asst
    06-07---------22-------11------7
    07/08---------15-------7-------3
    08/09---------28-------11------10
    09/10---------11--------7-------7

    If you don't think that's top 5 of the EPL quality then you're an idiot.

    If I don't think getting double figures for assists in only one season, and barely making double figures for goals in two seasons, and being injured half the time, and never winning anything of any importance to anybody isn't top 5 quality then I'm a what, Tweeds?

    Has Van Persie ever finished top scorer, or close to top scorer? No.

    Has Van Persie ever finished top assister, or close to top assister? No.

    Has Van Persie ever lead his team to, well, anything? No.

    Has Van Persie won anything in this league? No.

    Does Van Persie score the vast majority of his goals against the likes of Charlton, Bolton, Blackburn, Fulham, and shit sides in Europe? Oh yes.

    Does Van Persie only score against the big sides in games Arsenal lose? Oh yes.

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