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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:21 pm

    This should be a cracking game.

    Gazzetta gave a probable call-up list for the friendly a couple of days ago.

    Portieri: Buffon, Amelia, Curci (in preallarme Sereni).

    Difensori: Panucci, Cannavaro, Materazzi, Zambrotta, Oddo, Bonera, Barzagli, Grosso (Dossena, Gamberini).

    Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Pirlo, Gattuso, De Rossi, Perrotta (Mauri, Aquilani).

    Attaccanti: Quagliarella, Di Natale, Toni, Iaquinta, Borriello, Cassano (Lucarelli, Del Piero).

    I'd be happy with this apart from Grosso and not too sure about Borriello either.
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    Post by Deano Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:33 pm

    Cassano cheers

    I'm waiting for Palombo to get his chance...
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    Post by Juligen Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:47 am

    Do you have the date? I will def want to see this. Lets go Italy cheers cheers
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    Post by DS Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:52 am

    Come on Portugal , does Nani starts or something and Veloso? Or it is going to be full X1.
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    Post by bluenine Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:51 am

    Don't ya think its time Donadoni should give some youngsters a chance?? I think it will be really sad if the following do not make the line-up: Chiellini, Gamberini, Pasqual, Aquilani, & Rosina.

    BoBo Vieri wrote:This should be a cracking game.

    Gazzetta gave a probable call-up list for the friendly a couple of days ago.

    Portieri: Buffon, Amelia, Curci (in preallarme Sereni).

    Difensori: Panucci, Cannavaro, Materazzi, Zambrotta, Oddo, Bonera, Barzagli, Grosso (Dossena, Gamberini).

    Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Pirlo, Gattuso, De Rossi, Perrotta (Mauri, Aquilani).

    Attaccanti: Quagliarella, Di Natale, Toni, Iaquinta, Borriello, Cassano (Lucarelli, Del Piero).

    I'd be happy with this apart from Grosso and not too sure about Borriello either.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:08 pm

    its 6th February

    Apparantly Gattuso and buffon are out, while Zanetti has said he would refuse a call up if he were to get one.

    Pasqual should probably be in there instead of Grosso. Even Tonetto and Zauri are better options than Grosso IMO.

    Aquilani has just come back from injury, but he should still get the call.

    Chiellini is injured now isnt he?

    Not sure there is space for Gamberini and Rosina - now is not the time to start experimenting either.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:03 pm

    Does anyone know if Portugal has announced their squad? should be a good game.
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    Post by Tuga Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:59 am

    Nummer 14 wrote:Does anyone know if Portugal has announced their squad? should be a good game.

    GK: Ricardo, Quim, Rui Patricio

    DF: Fernando Meira, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Ribeiro, Bosingwa, Marco Caneira, Paulo Ferreira

    MF: Petit, Maniche, Raul Meireles, Deco, Ricardo Quaresma, Nani, Cristiano Ronaldo

    FW: Nuno Gomes, Makukula

    Most likely to start:
    Ricardo
    Bosingwa Meira Carvalho Ferreira
    Ronaldo Petit Deco Maniche Quaresma
    Makukula
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    Post by TM Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:01 am

    Tuga wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:Does anyone know if Portugal has announced their squad? should be a good game.

    GK: Ricardo, Quim, Rui Patricio

    DF: Fernando Meira, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Ribeiro, Bosingwa, Marco Caneira, Paulo Ferreira

    MF: Petit, Maniche, Raul Meireles, Deco, Ricardo Quaresma, Nani, Cristiano Ronaldo

    FW: Nuno Gomes, Makukula

    Most likely to start:
    Ricardo
    Bosingwa Meira Carvalho Ferreira
    Ronaldo Petit Deco Maniche Quaresma
    Makukula

    At last this kid is getting recognition, i saw him playing for Porto a few years ago and was impressed.
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    Post by Tuga Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:17 am

    Does anyone know if this is showing on any channel available in the UK?
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    Post by Calidad Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:10 pm

    Tuga wrote:Does anyone know if this is showing on any channel available in the UK?

    I'd be suprised if it's on Sky. Though I imagine Eurosport may show it live, or at least have highlights.
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    Post by Kroos Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:34 pm

    cracking game, cant wait for a good and long summary on ard^^
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:00 pm

    Tuga wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:Does anyone know if Portugal has announced their squad? should be a good game.

    GK: Ricardo, Quim, Rui Patricio

    DF: Fernando Meira, Ricardo Carvalho, Jorge Ribeiro, Bosingwa, Marco Caneira, Paulo Ferreira

    MF: Petit, Maniche, Raul Meireles, Deco, Ricardo Quaresma, Nani, Cristiano Ronaldo

    FW: Nuno Gomes, Makukula

    Most likely to start:
    Ricardo
    Bosingwa Meira Carvalho Ferreira
    Ronaldo Petit Deco Maniche Quaresma
    Makukula

    Simao injured?
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    Post by 3zycupid Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:05 pm

    Italy: Borriello gets Azzurri nod Sunday 3 February, 2008

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    Roberto Donadoni includes Marco Borriello in the squad for Italy’s friendly against Portugal, but leaves Antonio Cassano and Alex Del Piero at home.

    There had been rumours that Genoa hitman Borriello would receive his first senior call-up after netting his 12th Serie A goal this afternoon.

    As this is a friendly, Donadoni is trying to test out various different alternatives to his main squad, while Gianluigi Buffon and Gennaro Gattuso are injured.

    It was thought that it was the perfect opportunity to see Cassano and Del Piero back in the Nazionale following their strong form for Sampdoria and Juventus respectively, but they have once again been overlooked.

    Other returning figures are Marco Materazzi, former Udinese goalkeeper Morgan De Sanctis, Fiorentina’s Franco Semioli, Marco Cassetti and Alberto Aquilani of Roma.

    The Azzurri will come together at the Stadio Meazza in Milan for training on Monday afternoon and fly to Zurich for Wednesday’s match at the Letzigrund Stadium.

    Italy take on Portugal at 19.45 UK time and the referee will be Sascha Kever of Switzerland.

    Italy squad
    Goalkeepers: Amelia (Livorno), De Sanctis (Sevilla)

    Defenders: Barzagli (Palermo), Cannavaro (Real Madrid), Cassetti (Roma), Grosso (Lyon), Materazzi (Inter), Oddo (Milan), Zambrotta (Barcelona)

    Midfielders: Ambrosini (Milan), Aquilani (Roma), De Rossi (Roma), Perrotta (Roma), Pirlo (Milan), Semioli (Fiorentina)

    Forwards: Borriello (Genoa), Di Natale (Udinese), Palladino (Juventus), Quagliarella (Udinese), Toni (Bayern Munich).
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:14 pm

    wtf is Donadoni thinking?

    Cassetti? he's a joke amongst Roma fans! Grosso? Pasqual or Tonetto are simply better than that slow lanky piece of $h!t.

    Semioli i assume is a replacement for Camoranesi. Hes alrite, i guess but there are better options.

    I know Borriello has been in good form but he could be one of those one season wonders for midtable teams like we've seen in the past. Foolish mistake.

    Palladino? wtf? Cassano is miles better than him.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:33 am

    I think Cassetti is for the right, instead of Panucci.

    Semioli >> Camoranesi, so thats a good move!!

    Borriello, I agree.... looks just like a one season wonder, but then I doubt he will play much... Palladino, I am just happy Donadoni is giving chances to some of the youngsters. I would have liked to see a few more, specially Montolivo and Pasqual (instead of Grosso).

    BoBo Vieri wrote:wtf is Donadoni thinking?

    Cassetti? he's a joke amongst Roma fans! Grosso? Pasqual or Tonetto are simply better than that slow lanky piece of $h!t.

    Semioli i assume is a replacement for Camoranesi. Hes alrite, i guess but there are better options.

    I know Borriello has been in good form but he could be one of those one season wonders for midtable teams like we've seen in the past. Foolish mistake.

    Palladino? wtf? Cassano is miles better than him.
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    Post by lampiao007 Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:15 am

    Simao is injured, and so is N Gomes
    Hugo Almeida has been called to the squad.
    Should be fun Hugo and Makukula up front Smile (if they can get the service....)
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    Post by 3zycupid Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:58 pm

    Semioli has pulled out of Italy’s friendly match with Portugal due to an injury.
    Materazzi is also doubt for the match so Fiorentina’s Alessandro Gamberini has joined the squad.
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    Post by 3zycupid Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:20 pm

    Don: Why I snubbed star duo Monday 4 February, 2008

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    Roberto Donadoni has explained his decision to leave Antonio Cassano and Alessandro Del Piero out of his Italy squad to face Portugal.

    The world champions will have a slightly unexpected look as they play their first preparation game for Euro 2008 on Wednesday.

    Despite his revelatory form for Sampdoria and close relationship with Donadoni, Cassano has lost out to Genoa’s Marco Borriello.

    “I thought I’d try out some new players because this is one of the last opportunities,” Donadoni said.

    “Vincenzo Iaquinta? Del Piero? Cassano? Alberto Gilardino? I’d rather you asked me about Marco Borriello and Marco Cassetti.

    “The players that are left out shouldn’t be worrying, as they only need to be concerned if they are putting in poor performances – we have four months left.

    “Cassano is a player who I know best,” the former Livorno tactician continued. “He needs to be stimulated and call-ups don’t do that. He needs to grow more, so I am waiting expectantly.”

    Del Piero’s chances of making Euro 2008 his Azzurri swansong are up in the air after the Juventus talisman was again left out of the squad.

    “Scoring seven goals is not enough to make a player indispensable,” Donadoni maintained.

    “Del Piero knows very well what the situation is. Four months ahead of the European Championships nobody should feel excluded.

    “If I made my list definite for Austria then the players that were on it would go on holiday, instead I will follow all the games and collect information.”

    Donadoni concluded by responding to questioning over his decision to select Juve benchwarmer Raffale Palladino.

    “Find me another right-winger,” he declared. “Franco Semioli was called up for that reason. We don’t have many alternatives.”

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    Post by TheCrazy58 Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:39 pm

    can someone explain to me why the match is being played in Zurich? scratch
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    Post by Deano Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:22 pm

    Can Donadoni please give a proper explanation for leaving Cassano out...rather than wanting to talk about the inclusions of that clown Cassetti and that Red and Blue bastard!
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    Post by bluenine Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:25 pm

    I think he did the right thing... he is giving cassano the signal that he has to do more to merit a place... a few good months are not enuf, he has to show consistancy over a season before he gets a place.

    Knowing Cassano and his wild temperament, this is the right message to give him at this stage. I have no doubt that if Cassano continues to play like he is for the rest of the season, he will be a key part of Donadoni's plans. But if he starts to fade away, or lose his mind, then its best that he does not get a call for Euro2008.

    Full marks to Donadoni on that one.

    I am also satisfied on Donadoni's explanation for Palladino and Semioli. There are just not enuf good right wingers in Italy apart from these guys and the Donkey!

    Matthew Upson wrote:Can Donadoni please give a proper explanation for leaving Cassano out...rather than wanting to talk about the inclusions of that clown Cassetti and that Red and Blue bastard!
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    Post by bluenine Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:26 pm

    To get the players aclimatised.... this is where Italy play 2 of their group games, if I am not mistaken.

    TheCrazy58 wrote:can someone explain to me why the match is being played in Zurich? scratch
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    Post by Gigliati Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:25 am

    Semioli is injured and is ruled out. Yes, he is better than Camoranesi. I hope he travels for the Euro. Montolivo has been out of form in the last few months. Maybe he is not ready yet, but he still is the best alternative to Pirlo that Italy have.

    bluenine wrote:I think he did the right thing... he is giving cassano the signal that he has to do more to merit a place... a few good months are not enuf, he has to show consistancy over a season before he gets a place.

    Knowing Cassano and his wild temperament, this is the right message to give him at this stage. I have no doubt that if Cassano continues to play like he is for the rest of the season, he will be a key part of Donadoni's plans. But if he starts to fade away, or lose his mind, then its best that he does not get a call for Euro2008.

    Full marks to Donadoni on that one.

    I am also satisfied on Donadoni's explanation for Palladino and Semioli. There are just not enuf good right wingers in Italy apart from these guys and the Donkey!

    Matthew Upson wrote:Can Donadoni please give a proper explanation for leaving Cassano out...rather than wanting to talk about the inclusions of that clown Cassetti and that Red and Blue bastard!
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:56 am

    bluenine wrote:I think he did the right thing... he is giving cassano the signal that he has to do more to merit a place... a few good months are not enuf, he has to show consistancy over a season before he gets a place.

    Knowing Cassano and his wild temperament, this is the right message to give him at this stage. I have no doubt that if Cassano continues to play like he is for the rest of the season, he will be a key part of Donadoni's plans. But if he starts to fade away, or lose his mind, then its best that he does not get a call for Euro2008.

    Full marks to Donadoni on that one.

    I am also satisfied on Donadoni's explanation for Palladino and Semioli. There are just not enuf good right wingers in Italy apart from these guys and the Donkey!

    Matthew Upson wrote:Can Donadoni please give a proper explanation for leaving Cassano out...rather than wanting to talk about the inclusions of that clown Cassetti and that Red and Blue bastard!

    You're right about Cassano. Donadoni will make him work for that callup, but im sure if Cassano keeps it up, he'll get in the squad for the summer.

    Semioli is a decent call, better than Camoranesi. Not sure about Palladino though, he sits on the bench at Juve. Marchionni is an option too, he needs to show his Parma form though. He is very talented though.
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    Post by A & K Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:44 am

    bluenine wrote:To get the players aclimatised.... this is where Italy play 2 of their group games, if I am not mistaken.

    TheCrazy58 wrote:can someone explain to me why the match is being played in Zurich? scratch

    But know is bloody winter with minus temperatures in Switzerland, not the best way to prepare a game. Weather conditions would have been better in Portugal or Italy.

    Portugal have a golden generation of midfielders, ashame they don't have proper strikers.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:06 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:
    bluenine wrote:To get the players aclimatised.... this is where Italy play 2 of their group games, if I am not mistaken.

    TheCrazy58 wrote:can someone explain to me why the match is being played in Zurich? scratch

    But know is bloody winter with minus temperatures in Switzerland, not the best way to prepare a game. Weather conditions would have been better in Portugal or Italy.

    Quite. I suppose the Italian fans can make their way over the border. Is there a big Portugese community in Zurich?
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:45 pm

    Italy will p;ay 4-2-3-1 for this game.

    Amelia; Oddo, Cannavaro, Barzagli, Zambrotta; Pirlo, Ambrosini; Palladino, Perrotta, Di Natale; Toni.

    What do you guys think?

    Firstly, Palladino shouldn't be there. Donadoni recently said that he is the only right-winger in the country who he could select. But why is it imperative to select a right-winger? Why not play a more orthodox 4-4-1-1 or even a 3-5-2. Portugal play with wingers. We need to account for that. I think a 4-2-3-1 is not equipped to cope with that.

    Also, Perrotta will play behind Toni, while Di Natale and Palladino will supply him from out wide. Maybe Aquilani can fill in for Perotta because he passes much better than he.


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    Post by Deano Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:48 pm

    Don't take Perrotta out...but I question Palladino too, I don't know what Donadoni is thinking. I guess this is why he called up Semioli, who I personally rate.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:49 pm

    Matthew Upson wrote:Don't take Perrotta out...but I question Palladino too, I don't know what Donadoni is thinking. I guess this is why he called up Semioli, who I personally rate.

    Yeah he got injured...too bad.

    I wouldn't take Perrotta out normally, but don't you think we need a Cassano/Aquilani type player directly behind Toni?

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