Sack Schuster?

Is it time to get rid of the bumbling idiot in charge of Madrid?

Getafe's exploits this season show they hardly miss him, and Madrid are currently leading la liga purely because Barcelona in particular look disinterested this season.

Factor in the hissy fit after the game on the weekend (how NOT to make friends and influence people), the curtain falling on yet another hired mistake at the Bernabeu

Is it time to sack Schuster and bring in someone of the calibre of Gary Megson?

This is of course in no way a wind-up thread, eh Bernd

Get rid of the Clueless Coward !

Of course he should be sacked!

But the first one that needs to go is Mijatovic. This man is resonsible for useless players like Midget, Robben etc.

And then he signs a player for millions cause he played a good EC for the youth....lucky for him this is about Drenthe! And he is awesome

They desperately needed Ruud and Robben fit last night. Ruud from the start Robben from the bench. Robinhio and Raul had far too much to do.

Not sure who's fault it is they don't have a proper replacement for Ruud.

Move the Bernabéu to Fryslân and hire Foppe de Haan!

Not yet, but maybe at the end of the season.

I dont think he should be sacked..

Mijatovic has to go

Yes, sack him. Bring in Irureta

The thing with Real is that they're the biggest club in the world (let's be honest).

The biggest club in the world, then, should surely be able to compensate for an injured RVN. Real have no inspiring players bar Casillas (love this guy), Robinho and maybe Raul. I mean superstars who are actually incredible. The 2002 team was incredible. There was quality everywhere. In order to extricate themselves from the Galacticos policy, I fear they have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Surely, their ranks should be swelling with world class talent, not two frail Dutchmen and Pepe.

Schuster is an average coach, who doesn't seem to have the tactical marbles to win the big games. There have been moments when Real have been unstoppable this season, but few and far between.

I say Ja. Sack him at the end of the season, and bring in players fit to wear the Real Madrid shirt.

sacking a manager every season won't let their football get any better are will it guarantee them success in those so called big matches , but i hope they do.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:The thing with Real is that they're the biggest club in the world (let's be honest).

The biggest club in the world, then, should surely be able to compensate for an injured RVN. Real have no inspiring players bar Casillas (love this guy), Robinho and maybe Raul. I mean superstars who are actually incredible. The 2002 team was incredible. There was quality everywhere. In order to extricate themselves from the Galacticos policy, I fear they have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Surely, their ranks should be swelling with world class talent, not two frail Dutchmen and Pepe.

Schuster is an average coach, who doesn't seem to have the tactical marbles to win the big games. There have been moments when Real have been unstoppable this season, but few and far between.

I say Ja. Sack him at the end of the season, and bring in players fit to wear the Real Madrid shirt.

You're correct, but this will mean a new coach will come in with a new plan; new players which need time to gel together and so on, which has happened for the past seasons, and its not likely he's going to win the CL at the first attempt whilst playing beautiful football.

Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

Martin Jol to replace Schuster !

kas wrote:Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

He's on his way to Milan.

kas wrote:Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

Qualitatively, the football would not be worse than what we've seen the last 5 seasons and if he is willing to give Farsa the old



He will be welcome with open arms.

kas wrote:Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

Be careful what you wish for. He'd have as much money as he did at Chelsea in his first two seasons when he finished 1st both times and comfortably as well.

Parks lives wrote:

kas wrote:Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

Be careful what you wish for. He'd have as much money as he did at Chelsea in his first two seasons when he finished 1st both times and comfortably as well.

No problem

Madrid and Chelsea are different stories. One expects decent football, and has a crazy press. The other were so desperate that they'd take anything.

"If I play them in the Champions League, I want to go there and kill them - that's my message," Mourinho said.

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It would, at least, be high comedy if he ended up at Real Madrid!

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:The thing with Real is that they're the biggest club in the world (let's be honest).

The biggest club in the world, then, should surely be able to compensate for an injured RVN. Real have no inspiring players bar Casillas (love this guy), Robinho and maybe Raul. I mean superstars who are actually incredible. The 2002 team was incredible. There was quality everywhere. In order to extricate themselves from the Galacticos policy, I fear they have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Surely, their ranks should be swelling with world class talent, not two frail Dutchmen and Pepe.

Schuster is an average coach, who doesn't seem to have the tactical marbles to win the big games. There have been moments when Real have been unstoppable this season, but few and far between.

I say Ja. Sack him at the end of the season, and bring in players fit to wear the Real Madrid shirt.

The squad is badly built and this is all due to mijatovic. no other big club has such a useless player as diarra in their starting line up. i mean sissoko would do better because at least he broke plays up. and we have soldado who could be a fine reserve for ruud but untill i think january he had only gotten 33 mins of playing time! he has misused the squad and it took him ages to use drenthe correct.
Bring Valdano in to support shuster and watch the club rise again says I.

It would be crazy to fire Schuster now and I think he deserves till the end of next season at least to show his worth. Schuster has certainly made a lot of mistakes, something I've never been afraid of pointing out. But in the end we have a squad that is in dire need of improvement and on top of that 4 important players (Ramos, Robben, Ruud, Sneijder) couldn't play last night while two (Guti and Robinho) had just come back from injury.

If people here are acknowledging that the Madrid squad lacks quality and we had several injuries to with that, why should Schuster get slaughtered over last night? Indeed he has made the mistake of not rotating the squad enough, but having so many injured players for such a crucial game is certainly very unlucky.

If Schuster wins the league this season, then all is forgiven in my case. Next season will be the real judgment day for Schuster. I want to see what Schuster does if he gets a proper winger, fit CBs, and a creative midfielder that doesn't play well only once every six games (Guti).

However, I don't want to seem as if I'm just using injuries as an excuse. I say that in support of Schuster, but as a club, we had no excuse for going out last night. We spent a lot of money yet again this summer (and a lot of it was obviously mispent by Mijatobitch) and we obviously didn't buy wisely. We also played against an inferior rival that most top teams in Europe would have surely beaten.

And the players in the field just didn't turn up. Heinze and Cannavaro made amateur mistakes in both goals (and Casillas is also partly to blame for the second one), Pepe stupidly got red-carded, Baptista got his touch of a rapist back - kicking the ball about 5 meters too far whenever he got it, Guti missed every pass he attempted, etc.

The only players who were at least half-decent last night were Raul, Drenthe, and Gago. Everybody else was a complete embarassment.

I also dont think we should fire shuster. i think that had ramos/robben been fit and he didnt use diarra we would have gone through. this was a huge mistake along with not using soldado instead of baptista who was very bad as you said.
the thing is that we are playing the price for a coach that is still learning the trade in a big club. so he has to learn from these mistakes and he might become a really good coach. i know you were after guti but im sure that was this a copa he wouldnt have been allowed to play. guti had little to aim for which makes his type of passes hard.

The thing with Guti is that when he's bad, he's REALLY bad. I know that partly why he didn't have a good game had to do with the lack of mobility in attack and it was proven yet again that Raul is not an adequate number 9, despite all his efforts. But Guti gave the ball away like candy last night. I remember a play that happened after Pepe had just been red-carded. Guti gave the ball away in the final third TWICE within 10 seconds. He lazily passed the ball without even aiming. Not only that, but every free kick and corner he took were so casual you'd think he was in a practice session. He just floats the ball in so slowly that it looks like a slow-motion cross. Defenders have enough time to get a cup of coffee before the ball gets to them.

Guti is a "second-half" player. He's better coming off the bench when other players are tired so he can try some defense-splitting passes in the final 30 minutes. I want him to stay with us next season but we must get someone to start ahead of him.

So he shouldn't be offered a life time contract?

TM wrote:So he shouldn't be offered a life time contract?

I would be in favor for a life-time contract for him. He has Madrid in his blood and he deserves a reward for all those years of loyalty. He's also accepted being in the bench with a lot of grace over the years which shows his love for the club.

However, it's stupid to plan a season relying on Guti performing, which is what we've done for the past 2 seasons. If at 31 he's not a consistent performer then he will never be. It's a shame because when he feels like playing he can put up some sublime performances.

Torrente wrote:The thing with Guti is that when he's bad, he's REALLY bad. I know that partly why he didn't have a good game had to do with the lack of mobility in attack and it was proven yet again that Raul is not an adequate number 9, despite all his efforts. But Guti gave the ball away like candy last night. I remember a play that happened after Pepe had just been red-carded. Guti gave the ball away in the final third TWICE within 10 seconds. He lazily passed the ball without even aiming. Not only that, but every free kick and corner he took were so casual you'd think he was in a practice session. He just floats the ball in so slowly that it looks like a slow-motion cross. Defenders have enough time to get a cup of coffee before the ball gets to them.

Guti is a "second-half" player. He's better coming off the bench when other players are tired so he can try some defense-splitting passes in the final 30 minutes. I want him to stay with us next season but we must get someone to start ahead of him.

yeah that was very bad for him. too often he goes down with the team which i gues is why he is better coming in. currently we cant afford to have the likes of guti/raul/ruud(maybe) and def no diarra. one of them will be fine but then we have to make it up with other players and robben is never going to play 4-5 games in a row.

I'd fire Schuster because Valencia need a distraction from the soap opera at Mestalla.

Would be funny if Mourinho and Robben were reunited.

Jaime wrote:Would be funny if Mourinho and Robben were reunited.

It would be even funnier if Mourinho and Messi were united. Can't wait to see Messi asking Mourinho: "What was it you said about my acting?"

Jaime wrote:

kas wrote:Hopefully Mourinho is available this summer...you can take him

Qualitatively, the football would not be worse than what we've seen the last 5 seasons and if he is willing to give Farsa the old



He will be welcome with open arms.

Mourinho never loses against Barca when his team have 11 men on the pitch. So long as the Madrid players keep their discipline under check to keep the card happy refs at bay, you'd have a lot of fun against Barca