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    Post by EMP Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:47 pm

    Given that Capello won La Liga for Real Madrid last season, what does he have to deliver this season for Madrid fans to consider him a success? Assuming he stays in Madrid what will be expected of him next season? Do you think that he has delivered the attractive attacking football that he was appointed to bring back to te Bernabeu?
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:11 pm

    EMP wrote:Given that Capello won La Liga for Real Madrid last season, what does he have to deliver this season for Madrid fans to consider him a success? Assuming he stays in Madrid what will be expected of him next season? Do you think that he has delivered the attractive attacking football that he was appointed to bring back to te Bernabeu?
    For me he just has to win la liga allthough at the start of the season i was hoping to focus on team building which he has only just now finally gotten around too. next season he has to get the team more solid while still creative and for that he will surely need to get a player in.
    about the attractive football people have been saying that they just like capello which is not true imo. we have played more great games this season then last and he also improved that defensive part so he has done better then capello. he will without a doubt stay next season even if he doesnt bring a trophy because he is a favourite of Calderon which Capello wasnt.
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    Post by Torrente Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:52 pm

    I agree with just about everything Supermadrid said. I would also add that despite our numerous bad performances, we have generally played quite well against the big teams. Other achievements by Schuster would have been not playing Salgado anymore and the resurrection of Robinho and Raul (who I don't think had a good season with Capello despite some claims).

    Finally, if Schuster keeps along these lines, he would have shown that he learned something about what the fans want, unlike Capello. Our last game against Mallorca said it all. Despite all the horrible games we had with them throught the season, Capello still played with the Emerson/Diarra combo AND with Salgado as RB in the final and most important game of the season. He rectified this in the second half to some extent by putting in Guti for Emerson but he should have never started with these players in the first place. We had a horrendous first half in which Mallorca could have been up 3-0 by half time.

    This is what convinced me that Capello had to be fired despite our league win. Schuster on the other hand, is moving toward playing Gago instead of Diarra and Marcelo instead of Torres (who's had a very bad season) and he's given a lot more freedom to the fullbacks and wingers to attack.

    I want Schuster to stay on no matter what happens (even if we lose the league) but if he continues to get the team playing the way we have recently and with the same lineup, it will make the decision of keeping him a lot easier.
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    Post by EMP Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:00 pm

    Fair enough. It seems that he has become a better coach than he was at Levante. How good was he at Getafe? Do you think that Capello laid the foundations or is this pretty much Schuster's team? What input does he have into signing players?
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    Post by Ä Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:11 pm

    Jesus Christ, EMP

    you are as clearly anti-Schuster as you are clearly-anti-Pfister as well as clearly-anti-Vogts

    I can see a pattern, and I don't like it

    one bit
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:16 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:Jesus Christ, EMP

    you are as clearly anti-Schuster as you are clearly-anti-Pfister as well as clearly-anti-Vogts

    I can see a pattern, and I don't like it

    one bit

    lol!
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    Post by EMP Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:39 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:Jesus Christ, EMP

    you are as clearly anti-Schuster as you are clearly-anti-Pfister as well as clearly-anti-Vogts

    I can see a pattern, and I don't like it

    one bit

    I'm not anti-Pfister: I'm pro Shehata and pro Gyamfi who are far better coaches. Their results and achievements prove it. Shehata 2 Pfister 0 and Gyamfi 3 Pfister 0. Not arguable Otto. They are facts. Shehata has won the African Cup of Nations twice and Gyamfi thrice, but Pfister has lost more finals than either of them. <Ale>

    Not enamoured of Schuster after his poor performances with Levante, but as Madrid fans think he is doing a good job it seems that he has improved, so well done to him for that. However, at Getafe he inherited a sound squad from Quique Sanchez Flores and Laudrup inherited sound foundations from him, but Schuster has yet to win anything. Laudrup is doing an excellent job with less resources. Final of Copa del Rey - I really hope he beats us so Koeman gets the boot, something we need to progress and still in Europe. He had decent foundations to build on at Madrid and is doing a good job there.

    As for Vogts, well my opinions on his abilities as a coach are well known and I have seen nothing to cause me to change my mind.

    I think with luck I might just survive your disapproval though. <Ale>

    By the way your failure to comment on the achievements of Tony Baffoe in Germany clearly establish that you hate Germany and I refuse to talk to haters of the Germans. Wink
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    Post by EMP Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:14 pm

    For shame Otto: Tony Baffoe was discovered by Christoph Daum and you failed to comment on his contribution to German football on and off the pitch and for that matter the links that he is building between European and African football.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:59 pm

    Torrente wrote:I agree with just about everything Supermadrid said. I would also add that despite our numerous bad performances, we have generally played quite well against the big teams. Other achievements by Schuster would have been not playing Salgado anymore and the resurrection of Robinho and Raul (who I don't think had a good season with Capello despite some claims).

    Finally, if Schuster keeps along these lines, he would have shown that he learned something about what the fans want, unlike Capello. Our last game against Mallorca said it all. Despite all the horrible games we had with them throught the season, Capello still played with the Emerson/Diarra combo AND with Salgado as RB in the final and most important game of the season. He rectified this in the second half to some extent by putting in Guti for Emerson but he should have never started with these players in the first place. We had a horrendous first half in which Mallorca could have been up 3-0 by half time.

    This is what convinced me that Capello had to be fired despite our league win. Schuster on the other hand, is moving toward playing Gago instead of Diarra and Marcelo instead of Torres (who's had a very bad season) and he's given a lot more freedom to the fullbacks and wingers to attack.

    I want Schuster to stay on no matter what happens (even if we lose the league) but if he continues to get the team playing the way we have recently and with the same lineup, it will make the decision of keeping him a lot easier.
    Yeah this is what i want too. more then just winning another title which Capello might have done. Capello would prob have kept using Emerson-Diarra till this season. Shuster has realised the mistakes after some time though he has gotten it.

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