Roma vs. Man. United thread

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:Roma maybe mature and strong now but so are Manchester United. It’s funny last season no one gave Manchester United a chance to progress, so I will say Roma are favourites to go through should be a close game though.

There was a consensus going around that Roma had a better team and will progress (I think) more so after the 2:1 defeat in Rome. It was somewhat understandable back then such knee jerkiness occurred as Manchester United in the last 4 seasons have not had the best campaigns in the Champions League, but nevertheless seriously underrated.

Perhaps on this board. Roma were out of form, had key players unable to play and the majority of the squad lacked major CL experience. I don't see how anyone could see Roma as favourites, particularly the English media.

The English media of course had Manchester United as favourites, always nice to be nationalistic. My knowledge of Italian football in recent years is not as strong as some on here, so unless its ‘blind patriotism’ I don’t know. The Chivu & Mexes > Rio & Vidic comparisons was just crazy, and humorous to say the least.

Watching the Roma – Milan game, it’s fair to say Manchester United has to take one of possibly limited chances. Like against Lyon a goal is fundamental, can’t afford to settle the tie at Old Trafford. Not sure if Roma took the earlier game in Rome this season seriously but I can see Manchester United creating one or two chances.

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:Roma maybe mature and strong now but so are Manchester United. It’s funny last season no one gave Manchester United a chance to progress, so I will say Roma are favourites to go through should be a close game though.

There was a consensus going around that Roma had a better team and will progress (I think) more so after the 2:1 defeat in Rome. It was somewhat understandable back then such knee jerkiness occurred as Manchester United in the last 4 seasons have not had the best campaigns in the Champions League, but nevertheless seriously underrated.

Perhaps on this board. Roma were out of form, had key players unable to play and the majority of the squad lacked major CL experience. I don't see how anyone could see Roma as favourites, particularly the English media.

The English media of course had Manchester United as favourites, always nice to be nationalistic. My knowledge of Italian football in recent years is not as strong as some on here, so unless its ‘blind patriotism’ I don’t know. The Chivu & Mexes > Rio & Vidic comparisons was just crazy, and humorous to say the least.

Watching the Roma – Milan game, it’s fair to say Manchester United has to take one of possibly limited chances. Like against Lyon a goal is fundamental, can’t afford to settle the tie at Old Trafford. Not sure if Roma took the earlier game in Rome this season seriously but I can see Manchester United creating one or two chances.

Almost as crazy as the Ronaldo>Kaka comparison

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Raiphael wrote:Roma maybe mature and strong now but so are Manchester United. It’s funny last season no one gave Manchester United a chance to progress, so I will say Roma are favourites to go through should be a close game though.

There was a consensus going around that Roma had a better team and will progress (I think) more so after the 2:1 defeat in Rome. It was somewhat understandable back then such knee jerkiness occurred as Manchester United in the last 4 seasons have not had the best campaigns in the Champions League, but nevertheless seriously underrated.

Perhaps on this board. Roma were out of form, had key players unable to play and the majority of the squad lacked major CL experience. I don't see how anyone could see Roma as favourites, particularly the English media.

The English media of course had Manchester United as favourites, always nice to be nationalistic. My knowledge of Italian football in recent years is not as strong as some on here, so unless its ‘blind patriotism’ I don’t know. The Chivu & Mexes > Rio & Vidic comparisons was just crazy, and humorous to say the least.

Watching the Roma – Milan game, it’s fair to say Manchester United has to take one of possibly limited chances. Like against Lyon a goal is fundamental, can’t afford to settle the tie at Old Trafford. Not sure if Roma took the earlier game in Rome this season seriously but I can see Manchester United creating one or two chances.

Almost as crazy as the Ronaldo>Kaka comparison

Not this season

Tonetto>>>>>Evra
Juan and Mexes>>>>Ferdinand and Vidic
Panucci>>>>Brown
De Rossi>>>Hargreaves
Perotta=Anderson
Mancini=Ronaldo
Giuly=Giggs
Totti>>>>>>>Rooney

Utd have f@ck all chance

7-1 to Roma

Tweedle wrote:Tonetto>>>>>Evra
Juan and Mexes>>>>Ferdinand and Vidic
Panucci>>>>Brown
De Rossi>>>Hargreaves
Perotta=Anderson
Mancini=Ronaldo
Giuly>Giggs
Totti>Rooney

Utd have f@ck all chance

7-1 to Roma

The bold ones are actually correct.

shazlx wrote:

Tweedle wrote:
Giuly>Giggs

The bold ones are actually correct.

Don’t be silly.

Doni>VDS
Rio>Mexes
Vidic=Juan
Cicinho>Brown
Evra>Tonnetto
De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick
Ronaldo>Taddei
Manicini>Giggs
Tevez>Perotta
Totti>Rooney

-----------------Doni---------
Cincinho----Rio----Vidic----Evra
--------De Rossi-----Aquilani------
Ronaldo-------Tevez-------Mancini
---------------Totti------------------

Doni better than VDS

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Its a floored comparison, because United have stuffed them 7-0 which for me would suggest i'd take the whole United first team over Roma's.

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

yes that one is 110% spot on

neither was playing when manu won 7-1

Calidad wrote:Doni>VDS
Rio>Mexes
Vidic=Juan
Cicinho>Brown
Evra>Tonnetto
De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick
Ronaldo>Taddei
Manicini>Giggs
Tevez>Perotta
Totti>Rooney

-----------------Doni---------
Cincinho----Rio----Vidic----Evra
--------De Rossi-----Aquilani------
Ronaldo-------Tevez-------Mancini
---------------Totti------------------

well put agree with all of them. allthough i rate vidic higher then Juan who is best for his national team. the comparison also shows where Roma is weak imo with their right wing which doesnt hold the same weight that their left wing with Mancini does. also Perotta is a fine player but i still think they could do better. their CM with De Rossi-Aquilani will dominated Europe in the future without a doubt.

Calidad wrote:Doni>VDS
Rio>Mexes
Vidic=Juan
Cicinho>Brown
Evra>Tonnetto
De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick
Ronaldo>Taddei
Manicini>Giggs
Tevez>Perotta
Totti>Rooney

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

Don't be a douche, I never said "No good enough midfielders." Your midfielders good, not upto the standard of Daniele though.

Don't agree on the Totti-Rooney one guys. Sorry but i think people be underestimating the white pele a bit to much. Totti is class i always liked him as a player. But Rooney is just as good and one is getting older and better the other is going the other way. In these games Rooney has always raised his game, while Totti has gone missing a bit to much. I am not really worried facing Totti to be honest. But people will be worried facing Rooney.

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

Don't be a douche, I never said "No good enough midfielders." Your midfielders good, not upto the standard of Daniele though.

A midfield of players not up to his standard came to the party; he missed it and wasn’t served. Scored a goal, but Carrick scored 2

You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

Don't be a douche, I never said "No good enough midfielders." Your midfielders good, not upto the standard of Daniele though.

A midfield of players not up to his standard came to the party; he missed it and wasn’t served. Scored a goal, but Carrick scored 2

please tell me you're just trying to wind him up.

Your reasoning is terrible!

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

This game for me will be harsh, two good teams, both play attacking football, and one have to leave. I wanted United to get that overrated Barcelona so much. To see the look on Henry face when he gets kicked out it would be priceless.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

Don't be a douche, I never said "No good enough midfielders." Your midfielders good, not upto the standard of Daniele though.

A midfield of players not up to his standard came to the party; he missed it and wasn’t served. Scored a goal, but Carrick scored 2

please tell me you're just trying to wind him up.

Your reasoning is terrible!

De Rossi was missing in action. After the last 3 games between the two teams, I’m not overly concerned about him.

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

I love how you try and turn one 7-1 victory into years of MU domination over Roma. It was one game! In the 1-0 loss this season at OT the midfield battle was equal.

That is terrible reasoning anyway. Hasselbaink always scored against Man Utd, does that mean he was better than Man Utd's forwards?

Juligen wrote:This game for me will be harsh, two good teams, both play attacking football, and one have to leave. I wanted United to get that overrated Barcelona so much. To see the look on Henry face when he gets kicked out it would be priceless.

Well you can see that in the next round. And one thing good from a footballing sense that it will be the next round, is that Messi shall be back. So we can have a Ronaldo v Messi showdown!

Henry is a diva but i actually feel sorry for him

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So are you saying that Carrick>De Rossi or what? imo Romas CM partnership imo is more talented then Man utds but i have my doubts about whether they are as strong when it counts. here Man utd are better. if Roma rise to the occasion then they will have problems. it also depends on how both managers put the team because Pizzaro for some reason still is selected before Aquilani allthough that is changing.
Also dont know that Man utd will put out. Man utd cant allow to give roma to get shots from outside the area with De Rossi and esp Aquilani.

Supermadrid wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So are you saying that Carrick>De Rossi or what? imo Romas CM partnership imo is more talented then Man utds but i have my doubts about whether they are as strong when it counts. here Man utd are better. if Roma rise to the occasion then they will have problems. it also depends on how both managers put the team because Pizzaro for some reason still is selected before Aquilani allthough that is changing.
Also dont know that Man utd will put out. Man utd cant allow to give roma to get shots from outside the area with De Rossi and esp Aquilani.

I have not compared players; all I said was one turned up and had a good midfield display whilst the other did not. Please in no ways I’m comparing them. I don’t know much about Roma; it seems they have far better players. This was the case last season. To be fair I don’t care if De Rossi is 100 times better than any of the Manchester United midfielders, we see if he bothers to turn up in the game. This goes for the rest of the Roma team.

De Rossi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carrick