Roma vs. Man. United thread

the Bojan identity wrote:

Supermadrid wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So are you saying that Carrick>De Rossi or what? imo Romas CM partnership imo is more talented then Man utds but i have my doubts about whether they are as strong when it counts. here Man utd are better. if Roma rise to the occasion then they will have problems. it also depends on how both managers put the team because Pizzaro for some reason still is selected before Aquilani allthough that is changing.
Also dont know that Man utd will put out. Man utd cant allow to give roma to get shots from outside the area with De Rossi and esp Aquilani.

I have not compared players; all I said was one turned up and had a good midfield display whilst the other did not. Please in no ways I’m comparing them. I don’t know much about Roma; it seems they have far better players. This was the case last season. To be fair I don’t care if De Rossi is 100 times better than any of the Manchester United midfielders, we see if he bothers to turn up in the game. This goes for the rest of the Roma team.

Agree with you that if they dont show up it doesnt really matter. Roma imo has more talent in their first 11 then Inter but i think they lack the toughness that Man utd and Inter have for example. that is why i could also see Man utd overruning Romas midfield. if they had a really good motivator like Alex Fergueson/Mourinho they could be really good.

L r d wrote:Don't agree on the Totti-Rooney one guys. Sorry but i think people be underestimating the white pele a bit to much. Totti is class i always liked him as a player. But Rooney is just as good and one is getting older and better the other is going the other way. In these games Rooney has always raised his game, while Totti has gone missing a bit to much. I am not really worried facing Totti to be honest. But people will be worried facing Rooney.

In a way this is true and they are hard to compare as Totti is more refined whereas Rooney is more explosive. In most positions I would take Rooney over Totti including the one they seem to be playing currently (leading the line, unorthodox target man) As a SS or a playmaker I would take Totti.

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So then surely you should be saying Kaka>Ronaldo? Kaka turned up last season, whereas Ronaldo didnt.

L r d wrote: Well you can see that in the next round. And one thing good from a footballing sense that it will be the next round, is that Messi shall be back. So we can have a Ronaldo v Messi showdown!

Henry is a diva but i actually feel sorry for him

He left because he thought that he was too good for Arsenal, he forgot that he failed in Italy and maybe it was Arsenal formation and style that helped him to play his best football. But I do feel a little bit sorry for him.

The Gallas video is priceless

the Bojan identity wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Calidad wrote:De Rossi>Hargreaves
Aquilani>Carrick

What about Scholes?

is Aquilani>>>>>>Scholes?

Hell yes.

De Rossi >>>>>>> Any Man Utd midfielder

Lies, lies and slander. We see how he does with his team, was missing in the last 3 games between the two teams. Unlike Carrick or Fletcher

3 Games do not show the worth of a man!

Against the team you have said have no good enough midfielders at his level, it does.

Don't be a douche, I never said "No good enough midfielders." Your midfielders good, not upto the standard of Daniele though.

A midfield of players not up to his standard came to the party; he missed it and wasn’t served. Scored a goal, but Carrick scored 2

please tell me you're just trying to wind him up.

Your reasoning is terrible!

De Rossi was missing in action. After the last 3 games between the two teams, I’m not overly concerned about him.

There were far worse players than De Rossi in those 3 games. Infact De Rossi only underperformed in 2-1 win at the Olimpico.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So then surely you should be saying Kaka>Ronaldo? Kaka turned up last season, whereas Ronaldo didnt.

Yes, no shame in saying that Kaka was amazing especially in the second leg. But these should not be detrimental in the wider context of judging players in any given season.

Fabregas > Kaka this season as well.

He underperformed against a team with 10 men

L r d wrote:

Juligen wrote:This game for me will be harsh, two good teams, both play attacking football, and one have to leave. I wanted United to get that overrated Barcelona so much. To see the look on Henry face when he gets kicked out it would be priceless.

Well you can see that in the next round. And one thing good from a footballing sense that it will be the next round, is that Messi shall be back. So we can have a Ronaldo v Messi showdown!

Great, just like that other showdown Ronaldo had last year in the semi final.. Will be funny to see you crying on here and coming out with your pathetic excuses again.

the Bojan identity wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So then surely you should be saying Kaka>Ronaldo? Kaka turned up last season, whereas Ronaldo didnt.

Yes, no shame in saying that Kaka was amazing especially in the second leg. But these should not be detrimental in the wider context of judging players in any given season.

Fabregas > Kaka this season as well.

He underperformed against a team with 10 men

So then why were you judging De Rossi and Carrick on 3 games?

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

the Bojan identity wrote:

A Tribe Called BM wrote:You seriously think Carrick is as good as De Rossi?

You judge players on individual attributes. I judge players on their impact in the games. Carrick turned up in that game, De Rossi didn’t. Overall it’s hard to compare players, position wise and one being a international player and the other is not. So De Rossi has the lion stripes.

So then surely you should be saying Kaka>Ronaldo? Kaka turned up last season, whereas Ronaldo didnt.

Yes, no shame in saying that Kaka was amazing especially in the second leg. But these should not be detrimental in the wider context of judging players in any given season.

Fabregas > Kaka this season as well.

He underperformed against a team with 10 men

So then why were you judging De Rossi and Carrick on 3 games?

This is the power of manipulation; I have not once compared players. All I said was after BM made the accusation that De Rossi was at a level none of the Manchester United midfielders are at, is that one of the Manchester United midfielders in the 7:1 win (remember Roma was as good as through if their great defence held out) had a good midfield display capped with 2 goals, the so called ‘far better player’ did not show up, when he did was too late. I rate De Rossi highly, but when players get dismissed because they are deemed not good enough, this is wrong. You reap what you sew.

Its one game. Thats it! You can only infer so much!

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Its one game. Thats it! You can only infer so much!

I agree. But not once did I compare any players.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

L r d wrote:

Juligen wrote:This game for me will be harsh, two good teams, both play attacking football, and one have to leave. I wanted United to get that overrated Barcelona so much. To see the look on Henry face when he gets kicked out it would be priceless.

Well you can see that in the next round. And one thing good from a footballing sense that it will be the next round, is that Messi shall be back. So we can have a Ronaldo v Messi showdown!

Great, just like that other showdown Ronaldo had last year in the semi final.. Will be funny to see you crying on here and coming out with your pathetic excuses again.

Just putting you right if he wasnt rested it would have been a different outcome. I didn't make ridiculous statements then see them all blow up in my face in a 7-1 thrashing. Where is Kaka this year? oops.
Where is Ronaldo? top scorer in cl and premier league.

Milan was the exception in your consitency in being flat out wrong. Even seeing you guys babble on about Fiorentina after they beat Everton 2-0, then Everton still almost put them out after

You just don't learn.

Mancini > Ronaldo was it?



Why do i even waste my time

L r d wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

L r d wrote:

Juligen wrote:This game for me will be harsh, two good teams, both play attacking football, and one have to leave. I wanted United to get that overrated Barcelona so much. To see the look on Henry face when he gets kicked out it would be priceless.

Well you can see that in the next round. And one thing good from a footballing sense that it will be the next round, is that Messi shall be back. So we can have a Ronaldo v Messi showdown!

Great, just like that other showdown Ronaldo had last year in the semi final.. Will be funny to see you crying on here and coming out with your pathetic excuses again.

Just putting you right if he wasnt rested it would have been a different outcome. I didn't make ridiculous statements then see them all blow up in my face in a 7-1 thrashing. Where is Kaka this year? oops.
Where is Ronaldo? top scorer in cl and premier league.

Milan was the exception in your consitency in being flat out wrong. Even seeing you guys babble on about Fiorentina after they beat Everton 2-0, then Everton still almost put them out after

You just don't learn.

Mancini > Ronaldo was it?



Why do i even waste my time

We can only speculate on that. Fact is, Ronaldo looked like an amateur compared to Kaka, yet you can't seem to accept that. Rest of the paragraph is childish and irrelevent to the discussion.

I didn't make predictions in either of those matches.

Fiorentina knocked out Everton (Montolivio scored a great penalty).

And nope i never said Mancini>Ronaldo.

Another completely Cr@p post from you L r d, where practically everything is either made up or irrelevant.

Going out to a team on penalties doesn't make you a worse team.

Lrd's right. The way some posters were drooling over Fiorentina after they won 2-0 was embarrassing - and this is a team that are after all, supposed to be about as good as Arsenal.

Everton beat Arsenal.

Tweedle wrote:Going out to a team on penalties doesn't make you a worse team.

Lrd's right. The way some posters were drooling over Fiorentina after they won 2-0 was embarrassing - and this is a team that are after all, supposed to be about as good as Arsenal.

I never said it makes them a better team.

It was stupid of L r d to say that Everton nearly KOed Fiorentina. The 2 legs were mirror images of eachother.

Fiorentina play nice football which people appreciate. One match doesn't change that.

The Easter Bunny wrote:Everton beat Arsenal.

This season?

shazlx wrote:

The Easter Bunny wrote:Everton beat Arsenal.

This season?

I was thinking the same , probably he meant to say Everton will beat Arsenal.

Totti World Class, same darossi and Mexes. Giuly good. The rest $h!t so Manchester will win.

What is your opinion on Domenech?

Markus wrote:What is your opinion on Domenech?

I am not fan. Football is boring, choose wrong player. SHould a stay with U21, he is joke with Senior team and I don't think players like him.

To be fair he nearly won a WC considering the amount of pressure he was in especially in the group stages when France were not impressing, and has made bold decisions i.e. to drop Giuly before the WC considering the season prior he had a good campaign with Barça and recently omitted Trezeguet from his foreseeable future plans. But with all that he has created his own drama and problems for himself, maybe he should look to club football after Euro 2008 if the FFF decides to part company with him, I think he was a former Lyon coach .. How many clubs would be interested in him? (hopefully Real Madrid)

This is not how we see in France. Like you say, he create problem. Lucky he fix for himself. The problem is he think he the best and like the power of controling everything. We French do not like, the team conception was magnifique, no change needed so why he change? I just don't like! why is Henry playing alone striker against Switzerland? Why is Vikash pick ahead of Pires and Ludovic? See, he like Polémique, I don't know how to say in English.

Yes he coach Lyonnais in late 80's. He is very much French, but I think he must coach in other Europe because here in France Chairman sack quickly and they wont like his bullshit.

Wasn’t Pires dropped because of some ‘sponsorship’ problems. My French is not as good, but I do know someone who speaks the language does Polémique translate into ‘controversy’. That’s Domenech .. controversial. He won’t be coaching in Serie A that’s for sure

Btw welcome to the board, how did you find it?

Media here say he no like Pires Astrologie, that is crazy! Who cares what month he born. Yes controversy, Merci. Frenchman coach in Italie? something new, I would like to see.

Google, I type European Football forum.

You a fan of Mexes, Evra & Saha ?

Markus wrote:You a fan of Mexes, Evra & Saha ?

Why Mexes?

You are Manchester supporter? Yes Evra very good. I feel proud 3 best LWB in Football from France. Amazing more talent after Candela and Lizarazu. Evra every year improve, still more Potentiel so maybe he will be better then other LWB like Lizarazu and Candela.

Saha makes frustrate! Always injure, Im no big fan, good finisher but not like Trezeguet or Henry.

Evra today for sure one of the best LB’s in the English Premier League when he first came he had his ‘doubts’ but now definitly one of the first players in the Manchester United XI another French LB Clichy has been good this season. Saha is frustrating on his day when hes focused he can be class, but persistent injuries has cost him and I can see him leaving Manchester United.

I ask if you rate Mexes as he’s been doing well for Roma and played for France recently, another top defender.

I’m guessing Abidal is 1st choice LB for Domenech.

He make too much mistake when he come to England. I feel maybe MU coach no trust him anymore but he show croyance, I don't know in English, believing I think.

Yes Clichy is player I think 3rd best in World. Big challenge to be in front of Abidal and Evra.

I ask why because he is one of my favourite player! Idiot Domenech like no talent Escude, so Philippe no play. I think he World Class, very beau and physique, good fonctionnalité. I like very much his style, I wanted long time Gallas-Mexes, Thuram is finish.

Yes Abidal, Domenech like more because strong defence.

Mexes – Gallas would be a great partnership!