Serie A - The 2008-09 season thread

Red n' Black wrote:I don't like these news, especially about Sheva. I mean, what's the point?? Ronaldinho, I don't mind at this price,he's a great player but I dunno if it would work in a tactical sense.

And if this means that we won't get at least a GK and a couple of defenders then we just f@cked up big time!

edit: I think Sheva will score goals if he comes back but he is nothing more than a short-term option plus most people don't really like him anymore(apart from G&B, the idiots).

Unless you work in Milanello, I'm sorry, this is all speculation. Those were just rumours from the Turin rag, Tuttosport, if I am not mistaken. I think Sheva will be welcomed back. He is fit also. I think he can provide two 15-18 goals seasons.

@ bluey

Can't see Hleb being sold. Unless you offer us about £20m.

Flamini is clearly a worry though.

This season he's been absolutely incredible. If we get him on a long term deal I wouldn't want him sold for less than £30m.

kas wrote:If Ronaldinho returns to peak form and fitness, "tactics" are redundant. The guy is simply magical. Just be careful not to let him become a Rivaldo, though of course that depends on how hard he works too.


@bluenine: Why a top DM? Last summer I remember you trying to tell us all how great Emerson was and how Milan signing him put fear into you

Luckily for us, Emerson was injured for long periods! But now that he is fit, he is playing well - clearly their best DM....

bluenine wrote:

kas wrote:If Ronaldinho returns to peak form and fitness, "tactics" are redundant. The guy is simply magical. Just be careful not to let him become a Rivaldo, though of course that depends on how hard he works too.


@bluenine: Why a top DM? Last summer I remember you trying to tell us all how great Emerson was and how Milan signing him put fear into you

Luckily for us, Emerson was injured for long periods! But now that he is fit, he is playing well - clearly their best DM....

Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Red n' Black wrote:I don't like these news, especially about Sheva. I mean, what's the point?? Ronaldinho, I don't mind at this price,he's a great player but I dunno if it would work in a tactical sense.

And if this means that we won't get at least a GK and a couple of defenders then we just f@cked up big time!

edit: I think Sheva will score goals if he comes back but he is nothing more than a short-term option plus most people don't really like him anymore(apart from G&B, the idiots).

Unless you work in Milanello, I'm sorry, this is all speculation. Those were just rumours from the Turin rag, Tuttosport, if I am not mistaken. I think Sheva will be welcomed back. He is fit also. I think he can provide two 15-18 goals seasons.

What I meant was that most fans don't really like him anymore, so I don't think many people in the Curva will approve his return. Although It wasn't really clear from the way i wrote it

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

This season Flamini has been better tha both Masch and Essien.

Could be just the one season though. I'll get back to you April 2009

Red n' Black wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Red n' Black wrote:I don't like these news, especially about Sheva. I mean, what's the point?? Ronaldinho, I don't mind at this price,he's a great player but I dunno if it would work in a tactical sense.

And if this means that we won't get at least a GK and a couple of defenders then we just f@cked up big time!

edit: I think Sheva will score goals if he comes back but he is nothing more than a short-term option plus most people don't really like him anymore(apart from G&B, the idiots).

Unless you work in Milanello, I'm sorry, this is all speculation. Those were just rumours from the Turin rag, Tuttosport, if I am not mistaken. I think Sheva will be welcomed back. He is fit also. I think he can provide two 15-18 goals seasons.

What I meant was that most fans don't really like him anymore, so I don't think many people in the Curva will approve his return. Although It wasn't really clear from the way i wrote it

Ah I see.

Tweedle wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

This season Flamini has been better tha both Masch and Essien.

Could be just the one season though. I'll get back to you April 2009

Cool, you are actually talking some sense today

Donadel has had a great season too, almost on par with Cambiasso/De Rossi. But I would wait for a season or two before I say he belongs in that league.

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

And Yaya Toure. The man is a top 5 DM. As Flamini was this year.

Red n' Black wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Red n' Black wrote:I don't like these news, especially about Sheva. I mean, what's the point?? Ronaldinho, I don't mind at this price,he's a great player but I dunno if it would work in a tactical sense.

And if this means that we won't get at least a GK and a couple of defenders then we just f@cked up big time!

edit: I think Sheva will score goals if he comes back but he is nothing more than a short-term option plus most people don't really like him anymore(apart from G&B, the idiots).

Unless you work in Milanello, I'm sorry, this is all speculation. Those were just rumours from the Turin rag, Tuttosport, if I am not mistaken. I think Sheva will be welcomed back. He is fit also. I think he can provide two 15-18 goals seasons.

What I meant was that most fans don't really like him anymore, so I don't think many people in the Curva will approve his return. Although It wasn't really clear from the way i wrote it

fans are incredibly fickle, as soon as he scores a few goals he'll be a favourite again, "showing his love by coming back"

also you have inzaghi and gilardino, and he cannot do any worse

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:If you steal Flamini off us I'll make your lives living hell

Hold on tight, Tweedy, don't let go of Flamini....

On Hleb, you can relax your grip

not sure why you'd want him?

Gone wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

And Yaya Toure. The man is a top 5 DM. As Flamini was this year.

You think Yaya is better than Flamini?

Tweedle wrote:

Gone wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Flamini>>>>Cambiasso and Essien>>>>Everyone else

Cambiasso/Eissen/Mascherano/De Rossi > Flamini, and you know it.

And Yaya Toure. The man is a top 5 DM. As Flamini was this year.

You think Yaya is better than Flamini?

I would say so. Faster, stronger, better the air, more ability on the ball. Has had a good season, despite playing much of it (and continuing to do so) with a back injury. Has to take pain killing injections before every game apparently.

Flamini has had a great season, though I'm of the belief that he'll suffer if he moves to another side.

Hopefully he won't. Been our best player this season.

Only lost once with him in the team.

Tweedle wrote:Hopefully he won't. Been our best player this season.

Only lost once with him in the team.

Has been great. A completely different player this season. Has had a better season than most DM's/box-to-box players.

110% wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:If you steal Flamini off us I'll make your lives living hell

Hold on tight, Tweedy, don't let go of Flamini....

On Hleb, you can relax your grip

not sure why you'd want him?

We do, so relax your grip

Hleb is very Mancio-isque player, so I can see some logic/truth in the rumours. Personally, I would rather have Quaresma! We need more flair.

What's a 'mancio type player' bluey?

Tweedle wrote:What's a 'mancio type player' bluey?

Someone who is equally at ease at the wing and as an AM in the hole. Preferably also having the flexibility to move to the other wing when required. Ideally not a lightweight physically, and willing to put in work rate.

Hleb fits the bill. Like Zanetti, Cesar and Stankovic. Even Figo met most of the criteria, tho he was physically a lightweight and some issues regarding work rate, he made up by being great at the other stuff.

De Rossi/Mascherano/Essien/Y. Toure/ > Flamini

Hans Moleman ™ wrote:De Rossi/Mascherano/Essien/Y. Toure/ > Flamini

Not Cambiasso?

bluenine wrote:

Tweedle wrote:What's a 'mancio type player' bluey?

Someone who is equally at ease at the wing and as an AM in the hole. Preferably also having the flexibility to move to the other wing when required. Ideally not a lightweight physically, and willing to put in work rate.

Hleb fits the bill. Like Zanetti, Cesar and Stankovic. Even Figo met most of the criteria, tho he was physically a lightweight and some issues regarding work rate, he made up by being great at the other stuff.

Yep, that description is a dead match for Hleb. As I say though, he'll cost you.

Personally, I wouldn't be devastated if we got, say, around £17m+ for him.

bluenine wrote:

Hans Moleman wrote:De Rossi/Mascherano/Essien/Y. Toure/ > Flamini

Not Cambiasso?

Whoops, Cambiasso too. Deserves a mention just for THAT World cup goal.

Is the game on TV tonight (UK)?

Milan

Kalac

Bonera - Simic - Maldini - Favalli

Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini

Kakà - Seedorf

Inzaghi


Juventus

Buffon

Grygera - Legrottaglie - Chiellini - Molinaro

Camoranesi - Tiago - Sissoko - Salihamidzic

Del Piero - Trezeguet

You've got to laugh at Milan's back four

Tiago in the first eleven? Now that is a surprise.

No Pato in Milan?

Calidad wrote:Milan

Kalac

Bonera - Simic - Maldini - Favalli

Gattuso - Pirlo - Ambrosini

Kakà - Seedorf

Inzaghi


Juventus

Buffon

Grygera - Legrottaglie - Chiellini - Molinaro

Camoranesi - Tiago - Sissoko - Salihamidzic

Del Piero - Trezeguet

You've got to laugh at Milan's back four

And at Juve's midfield

Pato is injured.

Del piero scores