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Metze's Haeschen wrote:Senor Woody wrote:Ballhaeschen wrote:De Guzman wrote:Makes no sense comparing a winger with a power midfielder. You should compare Joe Cole with Schweinsteiger; Ballack should be compared to Stevie G.
Both England & Germany have technically skilled players. They'll both never be top of the world in this area (average skill of the entire team), but there are lots of other things that determine who wins a footy match/ who is the best footballer.
True!
As replacement for Schweinsteiger I take J. Cole but he isn't technically superior to Ballack let alone to Schneider. And if you think Mertesacker is technically inferior to any of your defenders Berniebärchen, then you are a lost cause.
Actually, Cole isnt really a winger at all. He plays there because he can, but as a youth player he was a central midfielder, and a lot of people in football as well as those who watch it would agree his best position would be more central as a playmaker. A dearth of left wingers is how he ended up playing the position for England.
And the mere statement that Cole would make a "good replacement" for Schweinsteiger has me chuckling to myself Ball. Certainly good to see German humour is alive and well
Schweinsteiger is no winger either, more of a CM/LM. Tbh, I would take J. Cole over Schweinsteiger any day, he would suit our midfield perfectly. Schweini has been a liability for years now, and I don't expect that to change anytime soon. f@ck, the DFB should have tried to poach Herrn Cole. Who knows, maybe he has some very distant relatives from Germany.
Was Cole ever used as a CM for England? A midfield with him, Hargreaves, Bentley and someone else (Young???) would be interesting to see. And it can't be more dire than your current set-up. That's for sure.
As DG says, neither nation is renowned for producing dazzling technical footballers. Strengths lie elsewhere. Germany's strengths are simple: their ability is dictated by their haircuts (and moustaches) in a Samson style fashion. Notice how badly Ballack was playing when he had a skinhead. Now he has regrown his Teuton barnet, he career has taken an upturn too. The best German footballers had the biggest hair. Its obvious: if Germany want to win Euro 2008, they must return to their permed afro roots. Literally
Could be a good advice for Bernd Schneider, who's completely out of form at the moment. If it helps him to find back to his old self, then I wouldn't mind encouraging him to regrow a mullet and moustache.
Great photo Ball
Nobody does a mullett and 'tache combo quite aswell as the Germans. Some of our lot have given it a go (this Keegan - minus the tache, Seaman, Waddle), but it had never impressed me in the same way. All these new age short back and sides that the likes of Podolski, Klose and Lahm are displaying is just so unbecoming. Bring back the Voller look says I - and with it will come the success!Cole has never been used in CM for England. He did play a few games as a roaming support striker (??!!!) under Mclaren (enough said), but there is no doubt he is far more useful given some freedom, like he gets at Chelsea where he is often operating as one part of a 3 pronged attack (against us, Spurs, the other week in the 4-4 game he was almost unplayable, absolutely fantastic);
yet still he is often the most creative outlet for the England side despite being stuck out on the left.
I would love to see a midfield like this:
---------------------Carrick----------------Hargreaves/Barry-------------
-----Gerrard/Bentley---------------Joe Cole-------------------------Young
To me, that would be a strong midfield, sa you say- certainly no worse than the current set up! And this formation was used in the first half against France under Capello and looked better than the flat 4 in the second.
