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    Post by Ä Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:04 pm

    wahre F

    I just read an interesting article by Simon Kuper about the topic in "11Freunde" , which, unfortunately, is not availalbe online

    many of the obvious and frequently mentioned reasons don't hold under closer scrutiny

    the fans are more passionate in other countries

    the facilities are better in other countries

    there are more goals in other countries

    the break-neck speed is indeed unique to the EPL; then again Seria A was once the most popular league despite playing very defensive football

    the most glamorous players are still being associated with Barca, Real (not now though) and Milan

    Arsenal don't go for stars, ditto Chelsea (exception Sheva and Ballack)

    Liverpool are star-light as well

    only ManU have Ronaldo and Tevez, players who could have gone to Real as well

    you could then mention Empire links; but most of Asia was never part of the British E.

    leaving the language and the transmission of propaganda via the BBC, Times, even CNN

    I wonder whether there is more to it though; does a punter in Bangkok really watch the BBC ?

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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:16 pm

    Petr Cech, Otto, 3rd best keeper in the world.
    Fabregas
    Toure
    Adbeyaor,sp. ( with this form )
    Rooney>>>Tevez
    Lamplard ( Is good at what he does in the EPL )
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    Agger ( has potential )
    Anelka
    Drogba

    Theres quite a few more stars I could mention but CBA.
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    Post by Khadrim Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:18 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:wahre F

    I just read an interesting article by Simon Kuper about the topic in "11Freunde" , which, unfortunately, is not availalbe online

    many of the obvious and frequently mentioned reasons don't hold under closer scrutiny

    the fans are more passionate in other countries

    Isnt the attendance higher in England than other countries

    the facilities are better in other countries


    Until the recent world cup (with germany upgrading stadiums) surely this is true


    there are more goals in other countries


    the break-neck speed is indeed unique to the EPL; then again Seria A was once the most popular league despite playing very defensive football

    the most glamorous players are still being associated with Barca, Real (not now though) and Milan

    Disagree there are just as many glamorous players in the EPL else why would players like Lampard be considered for the WPOTY

    Arsenal don't go for stars, ditto Chelsea (exception Sheva and Ballack)

    Liverpool are star-light as well

    only ManU have Ronaldo and Tevez, players who could have gone to Real as well

    Beckham

    you could then mention Empire links; but most of Asia was never part of the British E.


    Not sure what this has to do with football but the Empire had at one time control of a quarter of the world's population. Even if they didn't rule I doubt there is a country who hasn't felt the impact of Britain's Colonialism in one form or another (even just trading).

    leaving the language and the transmission of propaganda via the BBC, Times, even CNN

    I wonder whether there is more to it though; does a punter in Bangkok really watch the BBC ?

    Maybe but football is the world's biggest game and only the UK(in Europe) has a worldwide broadcaster of that stature

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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:20 pm

    Actually, Germany I believe have better attendances, mainly due to their cheap cheap cheap ticket prices, 10 Euro ( for the higher quality teams it might be 15 Euros )
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:52 pm

    Actually very interesting stuff here Otto. I will go for the the old empire thing and language but still doesnt explain why it wasnt more popular before.
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:20 am

    26-Otto-19 wrote:wahre F

    I just read an interesting article by Simon Kuper about the topic in "11Freunde" , which, unfortunately, is not availalbe online

    many of the obvious and frequently mentioned reasons don't hold under closer scrutiny

    the fans are more passionate in other countries

    the facilities are better in other countries

    there are more goals in other countries

    the break-neck speed is indeed unique to the EPL; then again Seria A was once the most popular league despite playing very defensive football

    the most glamorous players are still being associated with Barca, Real (not now though) and Milan

    Arsenal don't go for stars, ditto Chelsea (exception Sheva and Ballack)

    Liverpool are star-light as well

    only ManU have Ronaldo and Tevez, players who could have gone to Real as well

    you could then mention Empire links; but most of Asia was never part of the British E.

    leaving the language and the transmission of propaganda via the BBC, Times, even CNN

    I wonder whether there is more to it though; does a punter in Bangkok really watch the BBC ?

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    Post by Dwarf Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:16 am

    why is the EPL the most popular league in the world 070509_murdoch

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    Post by Zack Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:29 am

    The real question should be.....

    Is it now.....

    Turkey>>>>>>>>>>Germany?

    Better Fans (Million times more passionate)
    Better Stadiums
    Better and more successful Clubs (Whilst Schalke are humilliating themselves, Fernabache are doing exceedingly well and making a fight..)
    Have much more Glamorous players than Germany..

    And....

    Kazim-Richards>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klose

    I am sure Otto himself will agree that the German League is in decline and Turkey has now over-taken them (with ease to be honest..)
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:15 pm

    Juande Ramos wrote:The real question should be.....

    Is it now.....

    Turkey>>>>>>>>>>Germany?

    Better Fans (Million times more passionate)
    Better Stadiums
    Better and more successful Clubs (Whilst Schalke are humilliating themselves, Fernabache are doing exceedingly well and making a fight..)
    Have much more Glamorous players than Germany..

    And....

    Kazim-Richards>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klose

    I am sure Otto himself will agree that the German League is in decline and Turkey has now over-taken them (with ease to be honest..)
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    Post by Allez les rouges Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:23 pm

    Interesting piece on related theme from last week's FAZ (in German, sorry.)

    Die Engländer sind die neuen Italiener

    http://www.faz.net/s/RubFB1F9CD53135470AA600A7D04B278528/Doc~E33721DD65E83407CA6218A1B4A66C24F~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:02 pm

    Seriously, I don't have a clue why Otto is so proud of Bundesliga stadiums:

    No matter how modern the stadia are in Germany, or how cheap the tickers are - so long as there are big steel fences erected around the pitch like the one at the Allianz Arena, they will never be regarded the best stadia in the World .

    Can you imagine Old Trafford or the Emirates for instance being the proud owner of such an ugly, threatening creation? No, didn't think so. Supporters shouldnt be treated like cattle, and that is partly why the EPL is so popular Ale
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:04 pm

    Senor Woody wrote:Seriously, I don't have a clue why Otto is so proud of Bundesliga stadiums:

    No matter how modern the stadia are in Germany, or how cheap the tickers are - so long as there are big steel fences erected around the pitch like the one at the Allianz Arena, they will never be regarded the best stadia in the World .

    Can you imagine Old Trafford or the Emirates for instance being the proud owner of such an ugly, threatening creation? No, didn't think so. Supporters shouldnt be treated like cattle, and that is partly why the EPL is so popular Ale
    So it is down to the stadiums or what? cant imagine that stadiums have that big an effect. Italy had some bad stadiums after WC 90 with track fields that isnt particular fan friendly but it was still the most popular league.
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    Post by robert Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:07 pm

    Juande Ramos wrote:The real question should be.....

    Is it now.....

    Turkey>>>>>>>>>>Germany?

    Better Fans (Million times more passionate)
    Better Stadiums
    Better and more successful Clubs (Whilst Schalke are humilliating themselves, Fernabache are doing exceedingly well and making a fight..)
    Have much more Glamorous players than Germany..

    And....

    Kazim-Richards>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klose

    I am sure Otto himself will agree that the German League is in decline and Turkey has now over-taken them (with ease to be honest..)

    lol!
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:22 pm

    Supermadrid wrote:
    Senor Woody wrote:Seriously, I don't have a clue why Otto is so proud of Bundesliga stadiums:

    No matter how modern the stadia are in Germany, or how cheap the tickers are - so long as there are big steel fences erected around the pitch like the one at the Allianz Arena, they will never be regarded the best stadia in the World .

    Can you imagine Old Trafford or the Emirates for instance being the proud owner of such an ugly, threatening creation? No, didn't think so. Supporters shouldnt be treated like cattle, and that is partly why the EPL is so popular Ale
    So it is down to the stadiums or what? cant imagine that stadiums have that big an effect. Italy had some bad stadiums after WC 90 with track fields that isnt particular fan friendly but it was still the most popular league.

    It only makes a partial difference, because is makes the league more marketable if the stadia are decent, which in turn brings in the crowds, and that in turn creates atmosphere. Players will also be attracted to clubs more easily if the facilities are good.

    I'm just following on from Otto's points
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    Post by SuperMario Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:30 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:

    I just read an interesting article by Simon Kuper about the topic in "11Freunde" , which, unfortunately, is not availalbe online

    many of the obvious and frequently mentioned reasons don't hold under closer scrutiny
    A lot Kuper produces doesn't hold under scrutiny. Know countless times when he gets his facts dead wrong on Dutch footy. His research is very Cr@p. He talks with 1 of his Ajax mates and that's the truth.

    He also talks Cr@p about Arsenal (pretending to be a 'real' fan, he even gets his chants wrong).

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