If Ballack leads Chelsea to CL+EPL glory whilst

captaining Germany to a resounding Euro 2008 triumph,

will he finally become World Player of the Year

the German giant has already dragged Chelsea back into contention in the EPL and the CL and is now favourite to become Player of Euro 2008 (main competitor is Gomez)

would the triple be enough to sway the clearly anti-Germans/Bundesliga fans and experts out there

it WILL happen

and

you heard it here first



ah

and

f@ck OFF C. Ronaldo

choker of the century



we Germans cannot stand four kinds of players

a) the ones with gel in their hair and studs in their ears

b) the ones who cannot perform in big games

c) the ones who cannot score from the penalty spot

d) the ones who cannot dive convincingly

wahre G

Player of Euro 2008 in April? Fack Me.

GERMANY GERMANY GERMANY

and second question

who is now the best HEADER OF A BALL IN THE WORLD ?

a) Ballack

b) Klose

c) Kuranyi (just scored another one against HSV)

d) Gomez

????

answers on a post-card

the Poles tried the best they could to destoy our Luftwaffe in WW2 (in English planes)

it seems the German Luftwaffe is pretty much alive and kicking though

the only country that could bring it down is Deutschland

and frankly

why would we surrender our aerial superiority voluntarily by turning against each other ?

oh wait

we DID under Klinsi against the ARgies

but Klinsi is gone and will now make the BUndesliga exciting again by destroying Bayern's airforce

you heard it here first

Marin?

if there is one players who can win this trophy it is Ballack...

But Germans... try first to win ONE game at the Euro's! We are still waiting for your first victory in this millenium!

Congrats otto

The first big game ballack has played well in for chelsea

It only took him about 15 big matches to finally turn up in one

he has been hindered by the flumpy one though, who was missing yesterday and without him they actually played some decent stuff, BUT Grant wont have the bottle to leave him out

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:he has been hindered by the flumpy one though, who was missing yesterday and without him they actually played some decent stuff, BUT Grant wont have the bottle to leave him out

They played 'well' against united because united knew they only needed a point so just defended for 45 minutes.

During those 45 minutes of chelsea dominance nobody could tell ballack was on the pitch until he popped up with that header. In fact could any chelsea attackers be merited with having a good game ?

He scored a pen and got a header. On the basis that I criticise ronaldo for just scoring and doing very little else I'll have to apply the same principle to ballsack

It was a great game because of the drama, not because of good football frank

Nonsense COTR. I watched the match also, and strongly disagree with that. Ballack contributed a lot more than just goals.

It was a very good team effort by Chelsea, they clicked and played some really good football. Ballack made the difference by scoring a goal, and keeping a cool head in a decisive situation at the end.

Why is it so hard for certain people on this board to give credit where credit is due?

blutgraetsche wrote:Nonsense COTR. I watched the match also, and strongly disagree with that. Ballack contributed a lot more than just goals.

It was a very good team effort by Chelsea, they clicked and played some really good football. Ballack made the difference by scoring a goal, and keeping a cool head in a decisive situation at the end.

Why is it so hard for certain people on this board to give credit where credit is due?

Sorry Blut

Read the thread title, then wonder what a little bit of realism brings to the thread

I watched the game also so am sorry if you disagree

If Chelsea do win one of the two titles, and then Germany have success in Austria/Switzerland with him getting a few goals, I certainly hope that he's up there for the nominations. Class player who has never quite reached that level where he's in everyone's minds as a top top player. Unfortunately I can still see the voting being skewed towards the more glamourous name in Ronaldo, though to be fair he has indeed been very impressive.

kas wrote:If Chelsea do win one of the two titles, and then Germany have success in Austria/Switzerland with him getting a few goals, I certainly hope that he's up there for the nominations. Class player who has never quite reached that level where he's in everyone's minds as a top top player. Unfortunately I can still see the voting being skewed towards the more glamourous name in Ronaldo, though to be fair he has indeed been very impressive.

Heaven forbid I stick up for ronaldo, but if you think it is being skewed over ronaldo's more glamourous name than ballack then that is truly ridiculous

Ballack has had a slightly above average season for chelsea. Unless he does a kaka and dominates the rest of the CL, then does a zidane and dominates the euros he doesn't deserve to even be in contention for the year he has had.

COTR wrote:

kas wrote:If Chelsea do win one of the two titles, and then Germany have success in Austria/Switzerland with him getting a few goals, I certainly hope that he's up there for the nominations. Class player who has never quite reached that level where he's in everyone's minds as a top top player. Unfortunately I can still see the voting being skewed towards the more glamourous name in Ronaldo, though to be fair he has indeed been very impressive.

Heaven forbid I stick up for ronaldo, but if you think it is being skewed over ronaldo's more glamourous name than ballack then that is truly ridiculous

Ballack has had a slightly above average season for chelsea. Unless he does a kaka and dominates the rest of the CL, then does a zidane and dominates the euros he doesn't deserve to even be in contention for the year he has had.

He needs a Materazzi for that then...

blutgraetsche wrote:Nonsense COTR. I watched the match also, and strongly disagree with that. Ballack contributed a lot more than just goals.

It was a very good team effort by Chelsea, they clicked and played some really good football. Ballack made the difference by scoring a goal, and keeping a cool head in a decisive situation at the end.

Why is it so hard for certain people on this board to give credit where credit is due?

Because of posts like this?

Just a thought. Could be wrong

Otto: Great performances from the German contingent in the F1 today

If you let postings of others influence your own behaviour that much, it's pitiful.

otto seems to bring up 'the best' in people. By being a pretty successful WUM, he unmasks all the resentments, stereotypes and idiocies quite a few people seem to have, and makes them look absolutely pathetic and dumb, as can be seen in the English football section for instance.

blutgraetsche wrote:If you let postings of others influence your own behaviour that much, it's pitiful.

otto seems to bring up 'the best' in people. By being a pretty successful WUM, he unmasks all the resentments, stereotypes and idiocies quite a few people seem to have, and makes them look absolutely pathetic and dumb, as can be seen in the English football section for instance.

It seems to me like you are the only person getting wound up here Blut

Give us examples of just what you are talking about instead of these riddles

And how exactly? By describing it like it is? I'm pretty relaxed actually, had a great day.

Check out his thread in the English football section.

blutgraetsche wrote:And how exactly? By describing it like it is? I'm pretty relaxed actually, had a great day.

Check out his thread in the English football section.

So you think by otto stating something that is totally unrealistic, then people pointing out why what he is saying is so unrealistic, this is exposing people as being stupid and resentful. This theory doesn't quite work does it Blut

I don't think many people come away from otto's threads looking anywhere near as stupid as otto does on most occasions, and I am one of the people who back otto's threads

I had the last posting in mind COTR.

The most amazing thing is that otto still seems to be able to achieve that. I would either laugh and don't take him seriously at all, or be bored these days. But his over-the-top praise for anything 'German' seems to be so unacceptable that some still lose control completely.

The majority just go along with it and point out the rather large holes in his arguments - lets not forget even some of you Germans manage to get irate with some of the things he says, or at least have a verbal duel or two.

Certainly though, nobody has to say or give much credit to any German players on here, because Otto singlehandedly does that job for us twenty times over

otto gives 'credit' (or rather hypes) to those German players / individuals he likes, but you islanders probably can't see those nuances.

I never said that it's wrong to point out the holes in his arguments, or make fun of him. I just said that he still often achieves what he (probably) wants, and that's quite an accomplishment. Or not, since ze German card always works.

P.S.: I miss Arnaud. If you English only had a WUM of that calibre.

blutgraetsche wrote:otto gives 'credit' (or rather hypes) to those German players / individuals he likes, but you islanders probably can't see those nuances.

I never said that it's wrong to point out the holes in his arguments, or make fun of him. I just said that he still often achieves what he (probably) wants, and that's quite an accomplishment. Or not, since ze German card always works.

P.S.: I miss Arnaud. If you English only had a WUM of that calibre.

Arnaud is only impressive because of the briefness of his appearances.

He's like the badly behaved uncle who only appears at family weddings and baby christenings with the sole intention of pulling his pants down and stirring things up.

Funny for about 5 minutes, but purely irritating after that.

You can only realistically survive as a WUM on this board with variety. Hence why Otto simply gets very little attention anymore these days. In the past his threads would number tens of pages. Its a shame

But otto could easily start posting on 606 again, if his only intention would be to wind up as many people as possible. It's not the quantity me thinks.

Arnaud was hilarious. His persistence, hysteria and sheer madness were just great. A board needs 'characters' to survive, no matter how irritating, but that's just me.

You'll only appreciate otto, someone who has influenced this board like no other, once he is gone.

blutgraetsche wrote:But otto could easily start posting on 606 again, if his only intention would be to wind up as many people as possible. It's not the quantity me thinks.

Arnaud was hilarious. His persistence, hysteria and sheer madness were just great. A board needs 'characters' to survive, no matter how irritating, but that's just me.

You'll only appreciate otto, someone who has influenced this board like no other, once he is gone.

Oh I appreciate Otto, don't worry about that. I make it my duty to answer pretty much every one of his threads in some shape or form. I've even dedicated my signature to the man.

Im sure Arnaud will be back at some point- probably this summer. Telling us how right he has been all the time about life in general

26-Otto-19 wrote:

f@ck OFF C. Ronaldo

choker of the century



we Germans cannot stand four kinds of players

c) the ones who cannot score from the penalty spot

wahre G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYfUMCVHC8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZhE7Q1kXQ

read THIS blut

http://www.fr-online.de/in_und_ausland/sport/aktuell/?em_cnt=1326029

Grant wanted to practice penalties at Chelsea and BAllack said

NO INTEREST

"it's meaningless without pressure, and I know what I will do anyway"

asked about German penalty strengths he replied: "history teaches us that it's true. Everybody has his strengths, and we have to preserve ours"



now let's pray that Drogba calms down and let's Ballack take all penalties and free-kicks

Ballack and Grant have to win the EPL and the CL to prove Mourinho and Flumps wrong

wahre G

I agree that Ballack should take penalties.

But free kicks? Drogba is dynamite at free kicks. Even Carvahlo was pushing the big German out the way on Saturday. And Drogba proved it with a finely struck effort.

I do wonder what the whole fracas afterwards was about. Is Ballack not liked ion the dressing room? who knows.

And by the way, how would winning the CL and ECL prove Lampard wrong? Have I missed something?

WHAT?

and if if doesn't can we all agree that he is shite and not have more threads about him