germany vs. manutd, who would win

germany has clearly the better strikers, midfielders and fullbacks

vander sar and lehmann is a close battle


----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Germany of course...United never return from Munich alive!!

Toni Kroos wrote:germany has clearly the better strikers, midfielders and fullbacks

vander sar and lehmann is a close battle


----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Take out Schweinsteiger, put Rooney and make it a 4-3-3. Hargreaves may have a chance to get in the team but then we'd wonder where his loyalties lie, so better leave him out to be safe

Also, Fergie partnering Vidic at the back may not work. Ferdinand would be better

You are having a joke Kroos. Deluded

The top clubs in the World are better than the top international sides - more time to play together, play more regularly, against tougher opposition, no restraints on who can and cant play,

you live in a dream World if you dont see this. Although not fully unexpected, proved that point enough times

Klose and Gomez ahead of Rooney/Tevez

The midfield is a joke too...

Senor Woody wrote:You are having a joke Kroos. Deluded

agree with bernd

if you, deisler, SERIOUSLY think that van der Sar is better than Lehmann, you need your Bavarian Dickschaedel examined

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

In a match between the two it would be interesting. If Germany win euro 2008 then it should be arranged since we don't have any germans.

Yef wrote:Germany of course...United never return from Munich alive!!

ManU, of course.

No doubt about that.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Yef wrote:Germany of course...United never return from Munich alive!!

Shambles.

Deano-Forza Italia wrote:Klose and Gomez ahead of Rooney/Tevez

The midfield is a joke too...

I'd rather have Gomez over Rooney/Tevez tbh. He's a much better goal scorer, and reasonably creative too.

Arguments for Lahm, Ballack, and possibly Frings too.

Parks lives wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Yef wrote:Germany of course...United never return from Munich alive!!

Shambles.

You are a mod, ban them both!

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Yef wrote:Germany of course...United never return from Munich alive!!

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Who would those 2 get in ahead of?

Kimbo wrote:

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Who would those 2 get in ahead of?

Well if you want goals; Gomez>Rooney/Tevez

Wouldn't have Schweinsteiger in the side

Ballack & Lahm only would get into the Manchester United team, Ballack at his best not this phony Ballack we see now.

Calidad wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Who would those 2 get in ahead of?

Well if you want goals; Gomez>Rooney/Tevez

Wouldn't have Schweinsteiger in the side

Want aware scoring goals was an issue for United.

Havent Rooney/Tevez and Ronaldo scored a combined total of 78 goals or something this season?

Bring in Gomez and he might individually get more goals for himself, but then you can knock off about 20 goals for Ronaldo which he can attribute to the unselfish work that Rooney and Tevez do for the team in attack, and defence.

Infact, replace Rooney and Tevez and you could probably add on a few more goals conceded, since there is no doubting that as a team that collectively defends when needed, this is one of their strengths.

This argument is pointless anyway - United would beat Germany. No international side can be expected to match a club side which has played so regularly together under a familiar system and one that has won the CL (far more difficult opposition than anything in international football)

Kimbo wrote:

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Who would those 2 get in ahead of?

In the team that played the final: Schweinsteiger ahead of Hargreaves or Carrick and Gomez ahead of Tevez.

Gone wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Who would those 2 get in ahead of?

In the team that played the final: Schweinsteiger ahead of Hargreaves or Carrick and Gomez ahead of Tevez.

Get out of town

No way in the name of Jesus Christ our saviour will the pig climber get into the Manchester United first XI, not disputing his ability he will be one of Germany's key player at the Euros and a good player for Bayern, but the style of play for Manchester United today he wouldn't be suited. As I've said Ballack and Lahm would get into the team, Ballack probably ahead of one of Hargreaves or Carrick preferably Owen H

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Schweinsteiger doesn't even make the bench....seriously. Nani is levels above this guy. The rest is debateable, but Gomez has not done enough to be placed above Tevez yet. Any comparisons with Rooney are laughable.

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Have you ever seen Bayern play or a Bundesliga game.

This comparison is just stupid. Football doesn't work like that, it's a team game. A player who might excel in one team / system doesn't necessarily do well in another, so saying that player x would make the team instead of player y is just plain nonsense. When will you guys ever understand this?

Have I said I hate these comparisons? I wish you'd get a cactus up your butt for every x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y comparisons!

As usual Blut is right

26-Otto-19 wrote:

Senor Woody wrote:You are having a joke Kroos. Deluded

agree with bernd

if you, deisler, SERIOUSLY think that van der Sar is better than Lehmann, you need your Bavarian Dickschaedel examined

i think lehmann is better, on the highest stage cl/wc i would prefer lehmann anytime, he has proved that, but actually van der sar has the better arguments (regular player for manu, cl winner and bpl winner)

Yea Blut is right.

Rooney looks average for England, while Carrick doesn't even make the squad. Tevez also seems a little lost in the national side.

Poldolski rarely plays/impresses for Bayern, but does well when called upon for Germany. Lucio to a lesser extent (in terms of club performance) is another. Plays ok for Bayern, but very well for the national side.

L.r.d wrote:

Gone wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

----------van der sar

lahm-vidic-fergie-evra

schweinsteiger- frings-ballack- ronaldo

--klose-----gomez

Lahm is the only player who'd make the man utd team and that's only if Neville is still out

Lahm, Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Gomez would make the Man United team easy.

Schweinsteiger doesn't even make the bench....seriously. Nani is levels above this guy. The rest is debateable, but Gomez has not done enough to be placed above Tevez yet. Any comparisons with Rooney are laughable.

Schweinsteiger has the same speed as Nani but a better shot. Nani is more tehnical. I would have Schweinsteiger over Nani in my team any day.

At the moment majority of Bayern fans are of the opinion of get rid , so Milan fancy 15-20 m we will buy the air fare.

Seriously , Schweni is an AM and Nani a winger Schweni doesnt have the acceleration of Nani and at the moment not playing as the better player sorry to pop the bubble but hopefully he will improve and have a great tournament and wonderful next season .

By the way what a stupid thread.

Better shot than Nani? i doubt it to be honest. I seen him score some good long range goals, but Nani has an excellent shot on him.