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    Do you miss England?

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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:08 pm

    shut up Rai Rolling Eyes
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:50 pm

    it's a brilliant Cup without the English

    the whole event is 100% about the football

    and the English TV spectators are LOVING EVERY SECOND OF IT

    fortunately, South Africa 2010 will also be without the Three Lions

    think about it
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    Post by 110% Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:00 pm

    Yef wrote:So anyone is missing England so far at the EC?

    Has to be said, footballing wise I dont miss them at all ( I know they have the best team in the world on paper)

    But for the board its a shame they are not here, luckily Germany is showing a lot of GD and with Odonkor on even PGD!!

    Germany is a poor man's England ok
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:12 pm

    110% wrote:
    Yef wrote:So anyone is missing England so far at the EC?

    Has to be said, footballing wise I dont miss them at all ( I know they have the best team in the world on paper)

    But for the board its a shame they are not here, luckily Germany is showing a lot of GD and with Odonkor on even PGD!!

    Germany is a poor man's England ok

    If that were really true we'd have beaten them in September, I wouldn't have then had to don Avartars in tribute to Michael Schumacher for a week, and they'd be watching the tournament at home whilst we're getting embarrased by the Croats... Oh wait. Whistle Wink

    Anyway, I'd say the best aspect of a Major Championship without England is the fact that you don't here anyone's National Anthem being booed. I suspect a lot of the dislike of us that comes from UEFA/continental Europe is as a result of that.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:46 pm

    I miss England! I'd rather have England than Poland, Swiss, Austria, Russia or Greece... They at least have more quality them...

    Second, Englaish are fanatic so that's always superb

    I don't miss their boring football from time to time... Too many overpaid superstar too little great football... If England could get their feet back on the ground it is perhaps a joy to watch...

    BTW some games of England are a joy to watch but that's more because the opponent outplays them with good passing of the ball between the static England defence!
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:53 pm

    RicardoJol wrote:I miss England! I'd rather have England than Poland, Swiss, Austria, Russia or Greece... They at least have more quality them...

    Second, Englaish are fanatic so that's always superb

    I don't miss their boring football from time to time... Too many overpaid superstar too little great football... If England could get their feet back on the ground it is perhaps a joy to watch...

    BTW some games of England are a joy to watch but that's more because the opponent outplays them with good passing of the ball between the static England defence!

    You can accuse England of alot of things but not boring.

    Euro 2004 - Portugal vs England
    World cup 2002 - England vs Brazil
    World cup 1998 - England vs Argentina

    Some amazing games.

    Even the game against Portugal was full of incidents and that was a 0-0 draw!
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    Post by Z Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:53 pm

    I don't miss going out on penalties and having Sol Campbell headers being ruled out for no reason.. <Ale>
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    Post by Rosicky Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:56 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    RicardoJol wrote:I miss England! I'd rather have England than Poland, Swiss, Austria, Russia or Greece... They at least have more quality them...

    Second, Englaish are fanatic so that's always superb

    I don't miss their boring football from time to time... Too many overpaid superstar too little great football... If England could get their feet back on the ground it is perhaps a joy to watch...

    BTW some games of England are a joy to watch but that's more because the opponent outplays them with good passing of the ball between the static England defence!

    You can accuse England of alot of things but not boring.

    Euro 2004 - Portugal vs England
    World cup 2002 - England vs Brazil
    World cup 1998 - England vs Argentina

    Some amazing games.

    Even the game against Portugal was full of incidents and that was a 0-0 draw!

    top scorers last euros as well!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:58 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    RicardoJol wrote:I miss England! I'd rather have England than Poland, Swiss, Austria, Russia or Greece... They at least have more quality them...

    Second, Englaish are fanatic so that's always superb

    I don't miss their boring football from time to time... Too many overpaid superstar too little great football... If England could get their feet back on the ground it is perhaps a joy to watch...

    BTW some games of England are a joy to watch but that's more because the opponent outplays them with good passing of the ball between the static England defence!

    You can accuse England of alot of things but not boring.

    Euro 2004 - Portugal vs England
    World cup 2002 - England vs Brazil
    World cup 1998 - England vs Argentina

    Some amazing games.

    Even the game against Portugal was full of incidents and that was a 0-0 draw!

    I repeat: the football was boring from time to time but some games were superb because of other aspects... I hope the coach after Capello brings back the English style of football! fast and attacking instead of slow and defensive. Ale
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:00 pm

    It is always fun with England because they bring drama to the table. They have good players that should be there. hopefully they make it to South Africa.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:24 pm

    Wow, totally 50/50

    As an Englishman, no I don't miss them, i'm fed up with the media hype, biased commentry, 100% coverage of the England team with total disregard for the fact that there are other teams competing in the competition. The inevitable disappointment and the next month of debate and pointless chatter than will surround it.

    A refreshing change says I.
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    Post by Deano Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:30 pm

    Funny how the president of UEFA, who is French, said the tournament isn't the same without England.

    Otto is just being a fucktard. The best tournaments are tournaments with all the best teams.

    I don't understand why people would be more happy to see Germany vs Poland than Germany vs England etc...
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:34 pm

    I don't miss the English press hype, I do miss the spirit and enthusiasm of the England fans Ale
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    Post by Ä Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:40 pm

    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:

    The best tournaments are tournaments with all the best teams.


    exactly

    which England blatently are NOT amongst

    Croatia > Russia > England

    Russia might not even make it out of the Group

    what does that tell you about England Question

    this preposterous idea that England are amongst the BEST

    BY DEFINITION

    is just that

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    Post by Deano Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:42 pm

    Eurottomeister wrote:
    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:

    The best tournaments are tournaments with all the best teams.


    exactly

    which England blatently are NOT amongst

    Croatia > Russia > England

    Russia might not even make it out of the Group

    what does that tell you about England Question

    this preposterous idea that England are amongst the BEST

    BY DEFINITION

    is just that

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    rous

    lol!

    Germany always seem to qualify for tournaments as 2nd best in the group also. Germany hadn't scored a goal in the European Championships in f@ck knows how long...until this tournament.

    You are more deluded than I thought if you think there are 14/16 European teams better than England tbh...
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    Post by fcb Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:24 pm

    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:You are more deluded than I thought if you think there are 14/16 European teams better than England tbh...

    I don't mean to sound rude, but calling others deluded is a bit laughable if you *still* believe that England deserved to be at this tournament. Ok, you can blame Mclaren, but the fact is that the national team is the full package of manager and coach and staff that represent the country, and that England setup simply weren't good enough in qualifying. To say otherwise is just ifs, buts, and speculation.


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    Post by shazlx Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:25 pm

    Eurottomeister wrote:
    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:

    The best tournaments are tournaments with all the best teams.


    exactly

    which England blatently are NOT amongst

    Croatia > Russia > England

    Russia might not even make it out of the Group
    I agree with Otto, Russia have much more quality than England. This team is too immature, we will have to wait till the younger more talented (intelligent) players blossom. Hopefully they don't get blinded by the hype - players like Lennon, Bently, A Ferdinand .. look like they already have.

    PS Enland are better than Cech, Austria, Poland and probably Swiss but worse than all others. Probably wouldn't get out of the group stage.
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    Post by shazlx Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:27 pm

    kas wrote:
    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:You are more deluded than I thought if you think there are 14/16 European teams better than England tbh...

    Doesn't say a lot about yourself if you *still* believe that England deserved to be at this tournament. Ok, you can blame Mclaren, but the fact is that the national team is the full package of manager and coach and staff that represent the country, and that England setup simply weren't good enough. To say otherwise is just ifs, buts, and speculation.
    ok Look at all the other Cr@p managers who's team have still qualified - Italy, France, Spain, Netherlands...
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    Post by Rosicky Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:50 pm

    kas wrote:
    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:You are more deluded than I thought if you think there are 14/16 European teams better than England tbh...

    I don't mean to sound rude, but calling others deluded is a bit laughable if you *still* believe that England deserved to be at this tournament. Ok, you can blame Mclaren, but the fact is that the national team is the full package of manager and coach and staff that represent the country, and that England setup simply weren't good enough in qualifying. To say otherwise is just ifs, buts, and speculation.

    the teams who beat england in the qualification will (probably) both be in the last 8.
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    Post by L.r.d Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:54 pm

    kas wrote:
    Deano-Forza Italia wrote:You are more deluded than I thought if you think there are 14/16 European teams better than England tbh...

    I don't mean to sound rude, but calling others deluded is a bit laughable if you *still* believe that England deserved to be at this tournament. Ok, you can blame Mclaren, but the fact is that the national team is the full package of manager and coach and staff that represent the country, and that England setup simply weren't good enough in qualifying. To say otherwise is just ifs, buts, and speculation.

    huh... scratch I think we know England didn't qualify but half of those teams there are certainly no better than England, including Russia who qualified ahead. Not sure how England ended up losing in Russia, but it was a beyond easy 3-0 at Wembley.

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    Post by fcb Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:09 pm

    Alright then, define "better".

    Let me guess, player reputations/quality? I think we all know that int'l football (well, all football, but specifically in this form of the game when players are only together for a short time) is all about how the team gels and raises its game, not how many good individuals you have.
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:19 pm

    As a team England are not better then several teams in the Euros but they have some good players still. imo the team that reached the quarters in 04 and 06 is not different from the side that couldnt qualify. i wish England had qualified now but in the long term it will prob be better for them.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:33 pm

    I'm not sure I do miss England...I prefered to go out and lose McClaren rather than continue with him into the Euros, which would have been embarrasing. I'm enjoying the football more now England aren't here - I'm not watching Holland and thinking '$h!t we have no chance,' I'm watching Holland and thinking 'What brilliant football, this is great to watch.' Watching this tournament is more enjoyable than the frustration I felt while watching and supporting England at WC 2006 Ale
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    Post by debaser Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:47 pm

    Crouching Tiger wrote:I'm not sure I do miss England...I prefered to go out and lose McClaren rather than continue with him into the Euros, which would have been embarrasing. I'm enjoying the football more now England aren't here - I'm not watching Holland and thinking '$h!t we have no chance,' I'm watching Holland and thinking 'What brilliant football, this is great to watch.' Watching this tournament is more enjoyable than the frustration I felt while watching and supporting England at WC 2006 Ale
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    I do miss the atmosphere when there's an England game, jam-packed pubs and excitement. But yeah, we got rid of McLaren and will hopefully see the benefit of this long-term.

    And we've no horrendously painful penalty shoot-out loss to look forward too sunny

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