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    If its head to head record over goal difference...

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    Post by Rasiak-9 Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:39 pm

    then what happens if the group finishes with a
    Pts
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    scratch
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    Post by Enigma Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:39 pm

    Germany advances
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:53 pm

    hth
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    Post by Dwarf Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:03 pm

    We'll skip the 7 other steps in deciding who finishes top, as it's obvious where this thread is going.

    If they cannot be separated, the team with the highest national coefficient places highest.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:12 pm

    Dwarf wrote:We'll skip the 7 other steps in deciding who finishes top, as it's obvious where this thread is going.

    If they cannot be separated, the team with the highest national coefficient places highest.

    Consider the following possibility:

    Portugal 6+2
    Czech 6 0
    Switzerland 6 +1

    The Swiss surely wouldn't deserve to go out as they'd have the better head-to-head than Portugal. Deciding to divide the teams up by GD would be unfair also as the Czechs would go out despite having the better head to head (the first priority) against the Swiss. No fair.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 pm

    Rasiak-9 wrote:
    Dwarf wrote:We'll skip the 7 other steps in deciding who finishes top, as it's obvious where this thread is going.

    If they cannot be separated, the team with the highest national coefficient places highest.

    Consider the following possibility:

    Portugal 6+2
    Czech 6 0
    Switzerland 6 +1

    The Swiss surely wouldn't deserve to go out as they'd have the better head-to-head than Portugal. Deciding to divide the teams up by GD would be unfair also as the Czechs would go out despite having the better head to head (the first priority) against the Swiss. No fair.
    If thats the way the group finishes, and assuming that all three of them have won 1 and lost 1 against each other, then Portugal and the Swiss will go through due to goal difference.

    And I think its as fair as any other tie breaking rule, coz all of them know the rules and will play to qualify. So if the above table is how it stands with 5 minutes left, the Czech will go on an all out attack.
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    Post by Antarion Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:49 pm

    so its direct comparison before goal difference?
    thats all i want to know.
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    Post by Dwarf Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:56 pm


    Should two teams from the same group finish with an equal number of points, they will be ranked based on the following criteria:

    * Number of points earned in matches between the teams in question;

    * Goal difference in matches between the teams in question (in cases where there are more than two teams equal on points);

    * Goals scored in matches between the teams in question (in cases where there are more than two teams equal on points);

    * Goal difference in all group matches;

    * Goals scored in all group matches;

    * In cases where exactly two teams are equal in all previously listed critera and play one another to a draw in their final group match, kicks from the penalty mark will be conducted in lieu of the remaining criteria;

    * The number of points obtained by the teams in question divided by the number of matches played in the qualifying competitions for the 2006 FIFA World Cup and Euro 2008;

    * Fair play conduct of the teams in the group stage;

    * Drawing of lots.
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    Post by Historicus Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:00 pm

    Fair Play conduct Laugh

    At that point they might as well just put the teams on a jet and take them to a stadium to do penalties
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    Post by Antarion Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:41 pm

    So Turkey vs Czech Rep will hopefully goes to the penalty shootout Wink
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    Post by A & K Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:07 am

    If this happens there will be a paper scissors stone between the two captains.
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    Post by Historicus Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:23 am

    Antarion wrote:So Turkey vs Czech Rep will hopefully goes to the penalty shootout Wink

    Petr Cech in a penalty shootout lol!
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    Post by DS Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:20 am

    Makes the game exciting doesnt it , it will be a knockout.
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    Post by Rosicky Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:25 am

    so am i correct in saying that if Czechs vs Turkey finishes in a draw there will be a penalty shootout ?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:59 am

    Rosicky wrote:so am i correct in saying that if Czechs vs Turkey finishes in a draw there will be a penalty shootout ?

    yes. Say it.
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    Post by Rosicky Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:00 pm

    Glennko Hysénjcar wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:so am i correct in saying that if Czechs vs Turkey finishes in a draw there will be a penalty shootout ?

    yes. Say it.

    If Czech vs Turkey finishes as a draw, the match goes to pens Ale

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