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    Post by fcb Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:54 pm

    Here are the current league tables for England and Spain. Rank the teams head-to-head against each other, and let's see which one comes out on top. I'll tally up the votes later tonight.

    England:
    1. Man Utd
    2. Chelsea
    3. Arsenal
    4. Portsmouth
    5. Liverpool
    6. Reading
    7. Everton
    8. Aston Villa
    9. Bolton
    10. Tottenham
    11. Wigan
    12. Man City
    13. Fulham
    14. Blackburn
    15. Newcastle
    16. Middlesbrough
    17. Sheff Utd
    18. West Ham
    19. Charlton
    20. Watford

    Spain:
    1. Barcelona
    2. Real Madrid
    3. Sevilla
    4. Atlético
    5. Zaragoza
    6. Recreativo
    7. Getafe
    8. Villarreal
    9. Valencia
    10. Celta
    11. Deportivo
    12. Mallorca
    13. Espanyol
    14. Racing
    15. Osasuna
    16. Levante
    17. Betis
    18. Athletic
    19. R. Sociedad
    20. Nástic


    Mine:
    Barca, Chelsea, Sevilla, Atletico, Liverpool, Recreativo, Getafe, Villarreal, Valencia, Tottenham, Depor, Man. City, Fulham, Racing, Newcastle, Boro, Betis, West Ham, Charlton, Nastic


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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:56 pm

    On current form or in recent times?
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    Post by fcb Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:57 pm

    Current form and positions only. Not reputation or anything else. That's why I left out Italy because many positions are affected by the points deductions.
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:59 pm

    Not done very pretty way, but this is who i picked i think.
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Arsenal
    Liverpool
    Everton
    Tottenham
    Man City
    Blackburn
    Newcastle
    Middlesbrough
    west ham

    Atlético
    Recreativo
    Villarreal
    Valencia
    Deportivo
    Espanyol
    Betis
    R. Sociedad
    Nástic
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    Post by fcb Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:00 pm

    L r d wrote:Not done very pretty way, but this is who i picked i think.
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Arsenal

    I can maybe understand Man. utd. over Barca, but Arsenal better than Sevilla on current form?
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    Post by DeLux Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:01 pm

    @ Kas
    Can you number them to make comparisons easier?

    Osasuna>Newcastle
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:01 pm

    Its has to be on current form since its the current tables

    Spain:
    Barcelona>Man Utd
    Real Madrid<Chelsea
    Sevilla=Arsenal
    Atlético>Portsmouth
    Zaragoza=Liverpool
    Recreativo=Reading
    Getafe>Everton
    Villarreal>Aston Villa
    Valencia>Bolton
    Celta=Tottenham
    Deportivo>Wigan
    Mallorca>Man City
    Espanyol>Fulham
    Racing=Newcastle
    Levante>Middlesbrough
    Betis>Sheff Utd
    Athletic=West Ham
    R. Sociedad>Charlton
    Nástic>Watford


    Man that seems bias.


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    Post by COTR Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:02 pm

    I highly doubt many of us get to see the lower spanish teams to often so there will no doubt be a lot of bias in these picks so its probably best just to count the people who really know both the leagues inside out.
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    Post by DS Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:02 pm

    Another thread about personal opinions.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:03 pm

    Can we take finances into account - i.e. current wage bills and Summer Transfer expenditure?
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:04 pm

    TeamTurtleDoves™ wrote:Can we take finances into account - i.e. current wage bills and Summer Transfer expenditure?
    We don't know any teams wage bills.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:06 pm

    I can't split some of them, however the rest -

    Barcelona over Man United.
    Chelsea over Real Madrid
    Sevilla over Arsenal (on current form)
    A Madrid over Pompey
    Liverpool over Zaragoza
    Villarreal over Reading
    Valencia over Everton
    Spurs over Celta
    Deportivo over Wigan
    Blackburn over Racing
    Betis over Sheffield United
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    Post by L r d Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:07 pm

    kas wrote:
    L r d wrote:Not done very pretty way, but this is who i picked i think.
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Arsenal

    I can maybe understand Man. utd. over Barca, but Arsenal better than Sevilla on current form?

    Doing on current form kind of is pointless, form can change very quickly. Sevilla are a very good team, But i think Arsenal would beat them.
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    Post by DeLux Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:07 pm

    @TS
    Marca publishes teams annual budgets. I think LSR posted them somewhere on the forum. They are miniscule compared to the EPL.
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    Post by DS Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:07 pm

    I doubt many people here get to see teams playing in the lower half of La Liga so any comparisons here are of personal opinions and for the purpose to prove that EPL>La Liga or vice versa.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:07 pm

    I'm sure the EPL release figures every year.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:08 pm

    England:
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Arsenal
    Portsmouth
    Liverpool
    Reading
    Everton
    Aston Villa
    Bolton
    Tottenham
    Wigan
    Man City
    Fulham
    Blackburn
    Newcastle
    Middlesbrough
    Sheff Utd
    West Ham
    Charlton
    Watford

    Spain:
    Barcelona
    Real Madrid
    Sevilla
    Atlético
    Zaragoza
    Recreativo
    Getafe
    Villarreal
    Valencia
    Celta
    Deportivo
    Mallorca
    Espanyol
    Racing
    Osasuna
    Levante
    Betis
    Athletic
    R. Sociedad
    Nástic

    barcelona
    chelsea
    sevilla
    atletico
    liverpool
    reading
    everton
    villarreal
    valencia
    tottenham
    deportivo
    man city
    espanyol
    blackburn
    osasuna
    levante
    betis
    westham
    real
    nastic
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:08 pm

    Barcelona>Man Utd
    Real Madrid<Chelsea
    Sevilla<Arsenal
    Atlético>Portsmouth
    Zaragoza<Liverpool
    Recreativo=Reading
    Getafe<Everton
    Villarreal>Aston Villa
    Valencia>Bolton
    Celta<Tottenham
    Deportivo>Wigan
    Mallorca=Man City
    Espanyol<Fulham
    Racing<Newcastle
    Levante=Middlesbrough
    Betis>Sheff Utd
    Athletic<West Ham
    R. Sociedad>Charlton
    Nástic>Watford

    @ messiah

    How the hell can you have Vigo better than Spurs?!
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:09 pm

    Santa de Bahia wrote:@TS
    Marca publishes teams annual budgets. I think LSR posted them somewhere on the forum. They are miniscule compared to the EPL.
    Good Good.

    When LSR's about we can make a direct comparism.

    I'll try to find the EPL budgets etc.
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    Post by DeLux Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:11 pm

    Tottenham W6 D4 L6
    Celta W5 D3 L5

    Celta=Tottenham

    Deloitte I think have the Premier League budgets.


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    Post by fcb Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:11 pm

    TeamTurtleDoves™️ wrote:
    Santa de Bahia wrote:@TS
    Marca publishes teams annual budgets. I think LSR posted them somewhere on the forum. They are miniscule compared to the EPL.
    Good Good.

    When LSR's about we can make a direct comparism.

    I'll try to find the EPL budgets etc.

    ok


    And to everyone else, if you don't know enough about a lower league Spanish team, just leave that one out like Parks has done.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:12 pm

    Tinseldum wrote:Barcelona>Man Utd
    Real Madrid
    Sevilla
    Atlético>Portsmouth
    Zaragoza
    Recreativo=Reading
    Getafe
    Villarreal>Aston Villa
    Valencia>Bolton
    Celta
    Deportivo>Wigan
    Mallorca=Man City
    Espanyol
    Racing
    Levante=Middlesbrough
    Betis>Sheff Utd
    Athletic
    R. Sociedad>Charlton
    Nástic>Watford

    @ messiah

    How the hell can you have Vigo better than Spurs?!

    I said = on current form but spurs have the better team
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    TeamSpirit, try checking http://www.premierleague.com, or the Wikipedia pages for each club.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:13 pm

    but as i have already posted what will wage bill and transfers show. it will only show who has more money and we already the epl has more so point in trying to find out.
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    epl has more money, while la liga, gets more south americans, due to language and weather, it is even on that
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    Found this link, maybe of interest

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    Post by Kimbo Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:23 pm

    kas wrote:And to everyone else, if you don't know enough about a lower league Spanish team, just leave that one out like Parks has done.
    And Spanish posters should do the same with lower English teams they never see. ok
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    Post by Deano Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:25 pm

    Barcelona<Man Utd
    Real Madrid<Chelsea
    Sevilla>Arsenal
    Atlético>Portsmouth
    Zaragoza=Liverpool
    Recreativo<Reading
    Getafe>Everton
    Villarreal=Aston Villa
    Valencia>Bolton
    Celta<Tottenham
    Deportivo>Wigan
    Mallorca=Man City
    Espanyol=Fulham
    Racing=Newcastle
    Levante>Middlesbrough
    Betis=Sheff Utd
    Athletic<West Ham
    R. Sociedad>Charlton
    Nástic>Watford
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    Post by fcb Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:26 pm

    Krimbo wrote:
    kas wrote:And to everyone else, if you don't know enough about a lower league Spanish team, just leave that one out like Parks has done.
    And Spanish posters should do the same with lower English teams they never see. ok

    Yup.
    (I have seen all the Premiership teams at least once this season myself, so I've put in comparisons for all 20)
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    Can this be done as a poll?
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