Gallas Threat

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:imho as i´ve said before this has nowt to do with money more the mourinho/gallas relationship breakdown

s4p as i said before imho nowt to do with money anyway

My point is that I'd have been more p***ed off if a player sat out their contract and went on a free, and refused to sign a new contract or be transferred.

At least you got a fee for him? Once he'd decided it was time to go you're better off without him... all this stuff about scoring an own goal is not the point tbh, if he was just playing at 70%-80% of his ability, he'd have been disruptive.

I think why people are defending Gallas is because you just can't imagine him saying that he would score own goals if he played. I certainly don't. It's Chelsea's word against his. I think he was right to ask for his transfer as well as he has wanted to leave for two years, at this age, if he wants a move he needs to get it soon.

theflyingfrenchman wrote: It's Chelsea's word against his.

This has been my point throughout

Whatever he has supposedly said (about not being offered a good wage, and whatever else he has moaned about (which you have told me)) is all his word against ours, which is why I believe both parties are guilty, and Gallas is certainly not as innocent in this as some are trying to make out.

@ frank

I don't think it's about money either, but FF has told me that Gallas wanted to leave because we supposedly offered him a sh*t contract at the start of the season (I don't know anything about this, but it was in L'equipe apparently)

it may have been in l´equipe but it still may not be true its just his excuse

Roger_Hunt wrote:My point is that I'd have been more p***ed off if a player sat out their contract and went on a free, and refused to sign a new contract or be transferred.

At least you got a fee for him? Once he'd decided it was time to go you're better off without him... all this stuff about scoring an own goal is not the point tbh, if he was just playing at 70%-80% of his ability, he'd have been disruptive.

To be honest mate, I'd have sold him the moment he was late back for pre-season training and basically "didn't care about it". Imo, that's classed as AWOL and the club should've dealt with that more strictly than they did.

However, it was Mourinho's decision and Mourinho said to him to stay on for 1 more year. I wouldn't have done this personally, but Mourinho is the boss at the club. Therefore, when told to see out his contract (which he'd agreed to - the date of expiry I mean), he had 2 choices. Either accepted this (kind of like Hargreaves has now done at Bayern) or kicked up a fuss, supposedly make threats (which to be honest, wouldn't surprise me if he had done) and basically whinge, turn up for training late and kind of give himself a bad name. Great player, but poor attitude

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:it may have been in l´equipe but it still may not be true its just his excuse

Exactly (which is why I have said before I didn't think he'd left for the money). I think there are other factors which both the club and Gallas himself are to blame for. I was just trying to explain (mainly to FF) about the money thing.

S4P wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote: It's Chelsea's word against his.

I don't think it's about money either, but FF has told me that Gallas wanted to leave because we supposedly offered him a sh*t contract at the start of the season (I don't know anything about this, but it was in L'equipe apparently)

That's my point, it's not about money, but lack of respect.

And Gallas has said he wants to leave, for what, two years now?

s4p its v difficult in gallas position though chelsea are one of v few clubs who could afford to put a player in the reserves for a season on a sizeable contract and not bat an eyelid, hence he prob felt he had no option than to act "out of order" to secure his exit

theflyingfrenchman wrote:

S4P wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote: It's Chelsea's word against his.

I don't think it's about money either, but FF has told me that Gallas wanted to leave because we supposedly offered him a sh*t contract at the start of the season (I don't know anything about this, but it was in L'equipe apparently)

That's my point, it's not about money, but lack of respect.

And Gallas has said he wants to leave, for what, two years now?

About a year actually.

And you think Gallas has been completely respectful? You don't think he has shown any disrespect to the club whatsoever.

I can't see how we have disrespected him (OK, he was playing at LB, but that was because we had nobody else who could play there). What else have we done to disrespect him?

S4P wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote:

S4P wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote: It's Chelsea's word against his.

I don't think it's about money either, but FF has told me that Gallas wanted to leave because we supposedly offered him a sh*t contract at the start of the season (I don't know anything about this, but it was in L'equipe apparently)

That's my point, it's not about money, but lack of respect.

And Gallas has said he wants to leave, for what, two years now?

About a year actually.

And you think Gallas has been completely respectful? You don't think he has shown any disrespect to the club whatsoever.

I can't see how we have disrespected him (OK, he was playing at LB, but that was because we had nobody else who could play there). What else have we done to disrespect him?

According to him, offered him a shit contract expecting him to sign it without arguing.

theflyingfrenchman wrote:

S4P wrote:

theflyingfrenchman wrote: It's Chelsea's word against his.

I don't think it's about money either, but FF has told me that Gallas wanted to leave because we supposedly offered him a sh*t contract at the start of the season (I don't know anything about this, but it was in L'equipe apparently)

That's my point, it's not about money, but lack of respect.

And Gallas has said he wants to leave, for what, two years now?

He should respect his contract and that's that. If he didn't like it nobody forced him to sign. It is about integrity and he like many other footballers has none. I see that Man City are saying that Andy Cole threatened to retire if he wasn't allowed to take up a lucrative offer elsewhere. Perhaps it's a good thing that Chelsea have come out and exposed Gallas for what he is as it will encourage others like Man City to expose what a bunch of self centred shits many professional footballers are these days.