Brian 2468 wrote:Otto
Your teams mental fortitude has moved on but you cannot see it. If you look back on history the very best players now I am taking about the elite Pele, Maradona, their own persona was one flowing act (your whole football system creates this in your players today). Fortitude does not come into it.
The German teams in the past had not reacted this point they had a belief which pushed them past the finish line and at the same time give everyone a blow job because you were really not that good.
Today Germany can push on and do what Brazil accomplished in their top years and truly master the sport but if you think reverting back to older beliefs will make this happen your using wasted mental energy over versatile creativity and you stagnate again.
And you heard it hear first.
brian
we are a lot more in sync than you would like to
BELIEVE
we now have the players at our disposal that can bully teams FOOTBALLWISE rather than merely MENTALLY
and THAT is a GOOD thing
(which, incidentally, has NOTHING to do with LÖW)
so by all means
let them OUTPLAY their opponents with STYLE
why would I be against that ?
don't you believe the blut-nonsense that the Löw-opponents are old-fashioned dogmatists
in fact, trawl through the various WC threads and see that blut and the other Germans on there
were driven out of their minds over Löw's endless mistakes
the 7:1 + the title temporarily flushed their minds
blut is still on the sugar high that the title win caused
he's a bit hysterical, like a high-strung neurotic woman who loses her mind because she cannot find her lipstick before the crucial job interview
only for a helpful man next to her suggesting she should look in her hand-bag
where invariably the lipstick is promtly found
upon discovery of the lifesaving war-paint
she immediately goes down on her knees
declares the man to be a genius
starts to cry tears of joy
and pledges
to become his sex-slave
until Werder Bremen become Bundesliga champions again
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brian
the wahre Geschichte is this
Germany now has stylish game-winners galore
and that is BRILLIANT
but there will be MANY games in the future where we STILL need mental fortitude
WINNERS
that put in a Schweini vs Argentina performance
and let's face it
Schweini has not always played like that
and Müller, Reus Hummels and Neuer
cannot always win games on their own (Klose is about to retire anyway)
the FINAL is a case in point
all those SUPER-EAGLES did NOT outplay Argentina over 120 AT ALL
we did not even have MORE chances to win
Beckenbauer commented after the final
"it would have been a VERY different game had Argentina had one day more rest (like Germany) and not played extra-time against the Dutch in the QF"
and Messi was on the money when he said it would have been a TOTALLY different game had they scored FIRST
and BOOM
Germany have LOST YET another chance of adding a star
the glorious Brazilians, Dutch..., the golden-generations of the style kings (Figo and Co), more often than not
did NOT win any titles
remind me how many titles Maradona won or Cruijff
Sammer, when in charge of the DFB youth set up, said that every team needed three kinds of players
creative individuals (Özil, Messi...), leaders ( Schweini now, Ballack, Pirlo...) and team-players/water-carriers
and that is as true as it always was
wahre G
blutgraetsche wrote:
Face it otto, Löw is a winner now, Lahm is a winner, all the players and managers you hate so much are winners. Football is a winner. Stop being such a bad loser and enjoy winning. Really winning that is, winning with style, without that bad feeling of being lucky, of being outplayed and still somehow nick it. You know, Rumpelfussbal style.
everybody who has a star is a WINNER
agreed
(just like everybody who has a German passport is a
GERMAN)
some are winners because they genuinely added something to the equation
others
because they were riding Müller and Co's coattails
Lahm, for instance, hardly had a good World Cup, me thinks
his midfield performances made him one of our weakest players
feel free to grade him game by game, blut
surely not even you would claim otherwise
and Löw's contribution to winning that star is not clear to me
EITHER
"overcoming his own stubbornness" does not constitute a WORLD CLASS performance, me thinks
get your sugar levels down, eat some healthy broccoli with steamed fish
and compose yourself, for God's sake
to get back to earth , maybe you should reflect about Werder's future
denk mal drüber nach
PS
will be interesting to see whether Lahm's overdue retirement will encourage other veterans to do the same
Schweini, surely not
cannot see Poldi hanging up his boots either, he is having too much fun
but Klose and Merte, maybe