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Chocolate Thunder- Number of posts : 15804
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Just read this on F365 and thought it was good read espically for those who don't get the Keane signing.
Keane Comes Armed With Grenades...
It is customary at this stage of pre-season to talk of Liverpool and jigsaws. As one wag in a Merseyside paper put it last season, Liverpool have found the last piece of the puzzle in Fernando Torres...and now all they have to do is find the rest of the pieces. In signing Robbie Keane, Benitez has secured a piece that could allow Torres build on his phenomenal first season - and in that, the signing may well be critical.
The Spanish goalador is sure to get much closer attention this season from Premier League opponents - but Keane's presence up front should ensure that a 'stop Torres, stop Liverpool' strategy does not become the simple mantra of Liverpool's opposition.
Bill Shankly once famously advised his number seven Kevin Keegan to just go out there and drop hand grenades all over the pitch. Rafa Benitez, as a student of the club's history, will likely offer similar advice to Keane. For the Liverpool supremo, the Irishman's 'game intelligence' was critical in his decision to bring him to Anfield and will be key in unshackling a more closely-policed Torres.
Keane's own reputation and consistent knack for goals will mean that he will be a danger in himself. And the Irishman should dovetail nicely with Torres if his productive partnership with Dimitar Berbatov is anything to go by. But even if Keane acts as more distraction than partner, then Liverpool should benefit. Dropping grenades, blowing holes in opponent defences - giving Torres space and time to exploit.
Keane's ability and flexibility mean that he can play as a front man (useful should Torres need a rest or be injured), as a second striker, or indeed on the right or left of a three behind Torres. Given how much Benitez likes to tinker, Keane is a dream. The Irishman is a punchier, more creative, and more compelling support player to the Spanish striker than Dirk Kuyt - and should allow Steven Gerrard to drop back into the centre of midfield or to the right side of a midfield four (as he has done with great effect in the past) should Liverpool go 4-4-2.
If 4-2-3-1 is the order of the day, then Keane and Gerrard will most likely be joined by Babel as the three behind Torres. A potentially devastating front four by any measure - considering that last season, they scored 88 goals between them.
The only danger for Liverpool in that formation - which Benitez seemed to favour in the back end of last season - is that they become congested in forward positions, as none of the four provide natural width. But as has been shown in the recent European Championships, the solution to the width problem lies in marauding, touchline-hugging full backs who create space for their forward players to exploit infield. So if Liverpool are to make a convincing challenge for the Premier League this season, then there is just as much of an onus on the new attacking full-backs Degen and Dossena to perform as there will be on the £20million Irishman.
Ultimately, the extra injection of quality that Keane provides should allow Liverpool to compete for the title this season. Should such a challenge materialise, then it is likely that Keane's massive transfer fee will be forgotten - much as Torres' was last season. Should Liverpool flop, then it will be as if one of Keane's grenades inadvertently rolled under Rafa Benitez's office chair and blew him out the door marked exit.
Keane Comes Armed With Grenades...
It is customary at this stage of pre-season to talk of Liverpool and jigsaws. As one wag in a Merseyside paper put it last season, Liverpool have found the last piece of the puzzle in Fernando Torres...and now all they have to do is find the rest of the pieces. In signing Robbie Keane, Benitez has secured a piece that could allow Torres build on his phenomenal first season - and in that, the signing may well be critical.
The Spanish goalador is sure to get much closer attention this season from Premier League opponents - but Keane's presence up front should ensure that a 'stop Torres, stop Liverpool' strategy does not become the simple mantra of Liverpool's opposition.
Bill Shankly once famously advised his number seven Kevin Keegan to just go out there and drop hand grenades all over the pitch. Rafa Benitez, as a student of the club's history, will likely offer similar advice to Keane. For the Liverpool supremo, the Irishman's 'game intelligence' was critical in his decision to bring him to Anfield and will be key in unshackling a more closely-policed Torres.
Keane's own reputation and consistent knack for goals will mean that he will be a danger in himself. And the Irishman should dovetail nicely with Torres if his productive partnership with Dimitar Berbatov is anything to go by. But even if Keane acts as more distraction than partner, then Liverpool should benefit. Dropping grenades, blowing holes in opponent defences - giving Torres space and time to exploit.
Keane's ability and flexibility mean that he can play as a front man (useful should Torres need a rest or be injured), as a second striker, or indeed on the right or left of a three behind Torres. Given how much Benitez likes to tinker, Keane is a dream. The Irishman is a punchier, more creative, and more compelling support player to the Spanish striker than Dirk Kuyt - and should allow Steven Gerrard to drop back into the centre of midfield or to the right side of a midfield four (as he has done with great effect in the past) should Liverpool go 4-4-2.
If 4-2-3-1 is the order of the day, then Keane and Gerrard will most likely be joined by Babel as the three behind Torres. A potentially devastating front four by any measure - considering that last season, they scored 88 goals between them.
The only danger for Liverpool in that formation - which Benitez seemed to favour in the back end of last season - is that they become congested in forward positions, as none of the four provide natural width. But as has been shown in the recent European Championships, the solution to the width problem lies in marauding, touchline-hugging full backs who create space for their forward players to exploit infield. So if Liverpool are to make a convincing challenge for the Premier League this season, then there is just as much of an onus on the new attacking full-backs Degen and Dossena to perform as there will be on the £20million Irishman.
Ultimately, the extra injection of quality that Keane provides should allow Liverpool to compete for the title this season. Should such a challenge materialise, then it is likely that Keane's massive transfer fee will be forgotten - much as Torres' was last season. Should Liverpool flop, then it will be as if one of Keane's grenades inadvertently rolled under Rafa Benitez's office chair and blew him out the door marked exit.
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he makes Keane sound delicious
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Of course, that's how we'll win the league!
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Damn, Old Trafford looks quite ugly this way!
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Fey wrote:Damn, Old Trafford looks quite ugly this way!
Well, their fans are quite ugly
Pakis
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Ade wrote:Fey wrote:Damn, Old Trafford looks quite ugly this way!
Well, their fans are quite ugly
Pakis
why do you have to call them pakis? i'm a liverpool supporter and a Pakistani too so that leaves me in a odd position.
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Lollllllll Torres, Ade is a paki as well i think. Well at least a muslim. Chill out.
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Batman wrote:Nemeth Must Leave Liverpool, Says Koeman
Liverpool starlet Krisztian Nemeth has been warned by his national side’s manager that the lack of first-team opportunities at Anfield may hamper his progress.
Nemeth is among a group of highly-rated youngsters that have consistently impressed in the reserve side, pressuring manager Rafa Benitez to include them in his first-team plans.
While the group, including Spanish hopeful Daniel Pacheco, have been involved in the first-team during pre-season, Erwin Koeman believes a loan move would serve as a better apprenticeship for the 19-year old.
"I think Krisztian Nemeth is an exceptional talent," Koeman told the gathered press. "But I think he can't improve enough in the Liverpool reserve team.
"He should play in the first division week by week.
"Of course, it's not a problem if he plays in the reserve team for one or two years, but doing it for a longer period is just not good for his development.
"I don't think that, at Liverpool, he has a real chance to play besides Torres, Keane, Voronin or Kuyt.
"If he could get into the senior team then it would be a fantastic success, but I think it's more likely that he'd be loaned to another team or - it's worse - he may stay with the reserves."
The Hungarian has been linked with a loan move to League One outfit Leeds United, with a host of other Championship clubs hopeful of securing his temporary signing.
It's sort of worrying as to what benitez is going to do with these kids. There are about four or five of them who are already good enough to be put into the team but the squad is so big it'll take a lot of injuries before they get their chance. It's obviously a great problem for rafa to have but I hope it doesn't result in us selling them for less than they are really worth.
Nemeth though is just awesome. He created one goal and won a penalty yesterday and you can just tell he is going to be a great player. He showed more composure on the ball in 45 minutes than voronin has every showed for us so rafa has a great chance to prove this Koeman right by keeping voronin.
After watching yesterday we don't actually need any new players.
-We have two very good keepers
-The defence is amazing
- We have alonso, mascherano, gerrard, plessis, lucas and spearing in centre midfield so what is Gary Barry going to add
- Benayoun has looked incredible in pre season. Keane is going to help bring the best out in him. Ngog looks like a really exciting talent. A slower, more skillful version of babel.
- And of course torres and keane will be a brilliant partnership for the season
Rafa has built a great squad for the season. All he now has to do to finalise it is get rid of pennant and voronin so they can't ruin things in their own unique way
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I disagree, we still need a wide player. Kuyt shouldn't be playing on the right of a midfield four.
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The problem with that sort of analysis is...YOU WERE PLAYING RANGERS ffs!!! They're about the level of a Wigan. Or worse. That's the type of team you shouldn't have much problems with anyway. Who knows whether Lucas (taking long to settle), Plessis, and Spearing will be reliable when injuries hit during a busy part of the season. And I'm not convinced about that new keeper either, based on the bits I've seen of him in some pre-season games.
Overall, I agree it's a decent squad, but the backups (in most positions) are still far behind the starting 11.
Overall, I agree it's a decent squad, but the backups (in most positions) are still far behind the starting 11.
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Carlos Cuellar = Ranger's defence.
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Z wrote:I disagree, we still need a wide player. Kuyt shouldn't be playing on the right of a midfield four.
Well we have kuyt, keane, benayoun, gerrard, babel and Ngog who will all occupy the wide positions during the year. Because of our strength through the middle in defence, midfield and attack I think we'll be good enough but only time will tell
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But none of them bar Benayoun (and maybe Babel) is actually a wide player. Unless we are going to see a 4-3-3 or a diamond midfield, you do need a winger or two.
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Ade wrote:Just read this on F365 and thought it was good read espically for those who don't get the Keane signing.
Keane Comes Armed With Grenades...
It is customary at this stage of pre-season to talk of Liverpool and jigsaws. As one wag in a Merseyside paper put it last season, Liverpool have found the last piece of the puzzle in Fernando Torres...and now all they have to do is find the rest of the pieces. In signing Robbie Keane, Benitez has secured a piece that could allow Torres build on his phenomenal first season - and in that, the signing may well be critical.
The Spanish goalador is sure to get much closer attention this season from Premier League opponents - but Keane's presence up front should ensure that a 'stop Torres, stop Liverpool' strategy does not become the simple mantra of Liverpool's opposition.
Bill Shankly once famously advised his number seven Kevin Keegan to just go out there and drop hand grenades all over the pitch. Rafa Benitez, as a student of the club's history, will likely offer similar advice to Keane. For the Liverpool supremo, the Irishman's 'game intelligence' was critical in his decision to bring him to Anfield and will be key in unshackling a more closely-policed Torres.
Keane's own reputation and consistent knack for goals will mean that he will be a danger in himself. And the Irishman should dovetail nicely with Torres if his productive partnership with Dimitar Berbatov is anything to go by. But even if Keane acts as more distraction than partner, then Liverpool should benefit. Dropping grenades, blowing holes in opponent defences - giving Torres space and time to exploit.
Keane's ability and flexibility mean that he can play as a front man (useful should Torres need a rest or be injured), as a second striker, or indeed on the right or left of a three behind Torres. Given how much Benitez likes to tinker, Keane is a dream. The Irishman is a punchier, more creative, and more compelling support player to the Spanish striker than Dirk Kuyt - and should allow Steven Gerrard to drop back into the centre of midfield or to the right side of a midfield four (as he has done with great effect in the past) should Liverpool go 4-4-2.
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kas wrote:But none of them bar Benayoun (and maybe Babel) is actually a wide player. Unless we are going to see a 4-3-3 or a diamond midfield, you do need a winger or two.
Not really Kas. Not even united really play with wide players. The only width they have comes from evra and it looks like dossena has been bought to try and give us a similar effect. Arsenal don't have any wingers and chelsea have a bunch of poor ones.
I think we'll see a mix of 4-4-2 and the same formation from last season. In the 4-4-2 benayoun and gerrard are the best options wide whereas in the 4-2-3-1 you could really play any of them across these positions.
I'm hopeful the quality of agger, alonso, gerrard, yossi and keane will provide enough creativity to give torres enough chances with the fullbacks providing decent width and babel and Ngog providing the different options depending on the type of game. I don't think rafa is even looking for a winger in the modern sense. I'm guessing he isn't really interested in someone hugging the touchline and providing crosses in all the time
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forza_rossi wrote:Lollllllll Torres, Ade is a paki as well i think. Well at least a muslim. Chill out.
forza_rossi wrote:Lollllllll Torres, Ade is a paki as well i think. Well at least a muslim. Chill out.
Bangladeshi
Twas nothing personal or political, only a joke Torres
Anyway you do find most Asian's support United and a hell load of them are at the games.
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Z wrote:I disagree, we still need a wide player. Kuyt shouldn't be playing on the right of a midfield four.
Totally agree.
The same but to a lesser extent applies to Babel.
I just hope we play 4-2-3-1 with Keane and Babel as wing forwards.
But at the start of the season I expect 4-4-2 to be used.
I think Dossena(maybe Arbeloa or Degan) will have a big role to play quite possibly. Something similar to that of Evra at United and Clichy at Aresnal, at least I hope so
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Against different teams Rafa will play different formations/players.
What XI would you play against a team...
20-15 in the league?
14-7 in the league?
6-1 in the league?
What XI would you play against a team...
20-15 in the league?
14-7 in the league?
6-1 in the league?
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the 4-2-3-1 formation seemed to work last season and was kept when rotating during the last few meaningless league games. I think a 4-4-2 will only be used when personnel demands it, injuries, suspensions, international call ups etc.
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Glenn Hysén wrote:
the 4-2-3-1 formation seemed to work last season and was kept when rotating during the last few meaningless league games. I think a 4-4-2 will only be used when personnel demands it, injuries, suspensions, international call ups etc.
Do you mean "players" ?
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EXCLUSIVE: Gunners Target Alonso
Arsenal have set their sights on Xabi Alonso and have opened talks with Liverpool for the classy midfielder. Rafa Benitez has told Alonso he can leave, and clubs throughout Europe have been informed of his availability. Since a proposed switch to Juventus fell through earlier this summer only Turkish club Fenerbahce had shown any serious interest, but now Arsene Wenger has thrown his hat into the ring with a preliminary enquiry.
He was given short shrift by the Liverpool board, who are not keen to sell the Spanish playmaker to one of our main rivals and were also unimpressed with the London club’s paltry £10m valuation of the player. However, Benitez’s continued pursuit of Villa skipper Gareth Barry is giving Arsenal hope that a deal can be done.
Initially, Benitez sold the deal to his board by claiming he could move out Alonso and bring in Barry for a significant profit. Villa’s steadfast refusal to budge on their £18m valuation, plus expected interest in Alonso from Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid failing to materialise, has ensured that the reds will probably lose money if it goes ahead. American owners Gillett and Hicks asked Benitez to re-evaluate the merits of the deal, but Benitez insisted he still wanted Barry and the board re-entered talks with Villa early last week.
Villa broke off those talks in bizarre circumstances on Wednesday, when they put out a statement on their official website that the deal was off as they had imposed a 5pm completion deadline that Liverpool had failed to meet.
Since then, Liverpool have made no attempt to resurrect the deal, but Martin O’Neill’s comments yesterday evening where he appeared to have accepted defeat in his bid to keep Barry, have put the ball back in Liverpool’s court and Benitez will push for the deal to be completed as soon as possible.
Should that happen, it will leave the club needing to sell players to balance the books and Liverpool’s bargaining position on Alonso will be considerably weaker. Arsenal hope to capitalise on that by landing him in a cut price deal.
The player himself is desperate to remain on Merseyside, he is settled and happy in the area and is a popular figure amongst his team-mates and supporters. Alonso joined the reds in 2004 along with fellow Spaniards Luis Garcia, Antonio Nunez and Josemi, who have all since left the club.
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Arsenal have set their sights on Xabi Alonso and have opened talks with Liverpool for the classy midfielder. Rafa Benitez has told Alonso he can leave, and clubs throughout Europe have been informed of his availability. Since a proposed switch to Juventus fell through earlier this summer only Turkish club Fenerbahce had shown any serious interest, but now Arsene Wenger has thrown his hat into the ring with a preliminary enquiry.
He was given short shrift by the Liverpool board, who are not keen to sell the Spanish playmaker to one of our main rivals and were also unimpressed with the London club’s paltry £10m valuation of the player. However, Benitez’s continued pursuit of Villa skipper Gareth Barry is giving Arsenal hope that a deal can be done.
Initially, Benitez sold the deal to his board by claiming he could move out Alonso and bring in Barry for a significant profit. Villa’s steadfast refusal to budge on their £18m valuation, plus expected interest in Alonso from Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid failing to materialise, has ensured that the reds will probably lose money if it goes ahead. American owners Gillett and Hicks asked Benitez to re-evaluate the merits of the deal, but Benitez insisted he still wanted Barry and the board re-entered talks with Villa early last week.
Villa broke off those talks in bizarre circumstances on Wednesday, when they put out a statement on their official website that the deal was off as they had imposed a 5pm completion deadline that Liverpool had failed to meet.
Since then, Liverpool have made no attempt to resurrect the deal, but Martin O’Neill’s comments yesterday evening where he appeared to have accepted defeat in his bid to keep Barry, have put the ball back in Liverpool’s court and Benitez will push for the deal to be completed as soon as possible.
Should that happen, it will leave the club needing to sell players to balance the books and Liverpool’s bargaining position on Alonso will be considerably weaker. Arsenal hope to capitalise on that by landing him in a cut price deal.
The player himself is desperate to remain on Merseyside, he is settled and happy in the area and is a popular figure amongst his team-mates and supporters. Alonso joined the reds in 2004 along with fellow Spaniards Luis Garcia, Antonio Nunez and Josemi, who have all since left the club.
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It would break my heart if I saw Alonso in an Arsenal jersey..
Rafa must genuinely believe Barry is the difference between us and the league title if he'd allow this to go through.
I'd be suprised if he will though, there's too much at stake for him if Alonso succeeds at a rival and Barry doesn't excel (as opposed to just perform well) with us.
I'll just finish up by saying one thing.
The bottom line here is Rafa will live or fall by his dealings in this Transfer window, no more excuses. Improvement in the league is a must consdering who he has brought in and who he looks more than likely bringing in.
Rafa must genuinely believe Barry is the difference between us and the league title if he'd allow this to go through.
I'd be suprised if he will though, there's too much at stake for him if Alonso succeeds at a rival and Barry doesn't excel (as opposed to just perform well) with us.
I'll just finish up by saying one thing.
The bottom line here is Rafa will live or fall by his dealings in this Transfer window, no more excuses. Improvement in the league is a must consdering who he has brought in and who he looks more than likely bringing in.
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Ade wrote:It would break my heart if I saw Alonso in an Arsenal jersey..
Rafa must genuinely believe Barry is the difference between us and the league title if he'd allow this to go through.
I'd be suprised if he will though, there's too much at stake for him if Alonso succeeds at a rival and Barry doesn't excel (as opposed to just perform well) with us.
I'll just finish up by saying one thing.
The bottom line here is Rafa will live or fall by his dealings in this Transfer window, no more excuses. Improvement in the league is a must consdering who he has brought in and who he looks more than likely bringing in.
Rafa deserves to be crucified in the middle of old trafford if he ever sells alonso to arsenal
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kas wrote:The problem with that sort of analysis is...YOU WERE PLAYING RANGERS ffs!!! They're about the level of a Wigan. Or worse. That's the type of team you shouldn't have much problems with anyway. Who knows whether Lucas (taking long to settle), Plessis, and Spearing will be reliable when injuries hit during a busy part of the season. And I'm not convinced about that new keeper either, based on the bits I've seen of him in some pre-season games.
Overall, I agree it's a decent squad, but the backups (in most positions) are still far behind the starting 11.
He looked a bit suspect in his first couple of games but they were his first couple of games
He has looked suberb in the last two games againist Villarreal and Rangers I must say..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjwBi9CXOQ
Still can't believe that, Dossena had no right to get to that
Still can't believe that, Dossena had no right to get to that
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Rise sign for roma...............
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- Post n°958
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Shut up Rai
Cesc Soler- Number of posts : 9944
Age : 39
Supports : Arsenal FC
Registration date : 2007-03-24
- Post n°959
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
Ade wrote:Rafa must genuinely believe Barry is the difference between us and the league title if he'd allow this to go through.
That's evident, if Dossena is one of these fullbacks which likes to get forward often (not seen him this pre-season) then Barry would be a much better player to have holding back in position than Alonso.
The fact O'Neill conceded that the deal could be back on means that there is probably a 90% chance of it going ahead now, with Mascherano and Lucas on Olympic duty it might happen sooner rather that later. With regards to Alonso, it sounds like Rafa might be open to offers for him to help balance the books, I guess he might still be annoyed that he didn't travel out to Milan with the birth of his child. Like CoTR said, it would be suicide on Rafa's part to sell one of the best passers of the ball in Europe to a direct rival reknowned for pass and move football.
Certainly.Ade wrote:I'll just finish up by saying one thing.
The bottom line here is Rafa will live or fall by his dealings in this Transfer window, no more excuses. Improvement in the league is a must consdering who he has brought in and who he looks more than likely bringing in.
Do Liverpool fans think Hicks and Gillet have delivered so far this transfer window? There were rumours that there would be very little to spend at one stage.
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
Age : 38
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Favourite Player : Hélder Barbosa
Registration date : 2006-08-06
- Post n°960
Re: Liverpool Football Club 08/09
I'm not sure what our net spend is, but our ins and outs haven't been all too extravagant. Riise was upgraded for £2.5m in Dossena, Crouch was upgraded for £8m in Keane. Degen was free, Ngog for £1.5m as a promising first team squad youngster who probably would have cost £9m if English and funded by the Le Tallec sale, and a new keeper funded by the sale of the old one. We also made £2m+ on Guhrie which means he's only 'spent' £10m
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