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    Post by Super Progress Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:26 pm

    Black Magic wrote:Maybe he's signing with Torino. Smile

    Why wouldn't any club like a flexible game changer in their team? They'd be stacked in the Trequartista position and would have an interchangible front quartet:

    Cassano---Amauri---Giovinco
    ----------Del Piero---------

    etc.
    Smile
    Del Piero as the front striker instead Amauri??

    Looks good on paper and from a football purists view it looks great but there is little widith in that midfield/attack. They would need attacking full backs. They have De Cegile(sp?) on the left who has done fine this season.
    However it is more likely that they would play like they did last night with two of their trequartistas behind Amauri/Iaquinta. Which I suppose wouldn't be bad because then Juve could ease Giovinco in for Del Piero without having to put all the pressure on a young player since Cassano would be there.
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    Post by Black Magic Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:28 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:
    Black Magic wrote:Maybe he's signing with Torino. Smile

    Why wouldn't any club like a flexible game changer in their team? They'd be stacked in the Trequartista position and would have an interchangible front quartet:

    Cassano---Amauri---Giovinco
    ----------Del Piero---------

    etc.
    Smile
    Del Piero as the front striker instead Amauri??


    Attack is going that way ^^^

    I think it's a good line up, with of course Juventus' habitual duo DM's.
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    Post by Super Progress Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:33 pm

    Black Magic wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:
    Black Magic wrote:Maybe he's signing with Torino. Smile

    Why wouldn't any club like a flexible game changer in their team? They'd be stacked in the Trequartista position and would have an interchangible front quartet:

    Cassano---Amauri---Giovinco
    ----------Del Piero---------

    etc.
    Smile
    Del Piero as the front striker instead Amauri??


    Attack is going that way ^^^

    I think it's a good line up, with of course Juventus' habitual duo DM's.
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    Still don't think that looks particularly sound defensively. A 4-2-3-1 would be better with the same players and of course with Poulsen-Marchiso in midfield. Whistle
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:37 pm

    The more I see of Giovinco, the more I really don't understand all the Modric to Juve rumours. Not that I'm making a judgement on who is better, but they seem quite similar players.
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    Post by Tarun Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:41 am

    I think we will stick to Giovinco and links to Modric can only be rumors.
    Zlateam Ibrahimospirit™️ wrote:The more I see of Giovinco, the more I really don't understand all the Modric to Juve rumours. Not that I'm making a judgement on who is better, but they seem quite similar players.
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    Post by Tarun Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:45 am

    It is becoming more likely that Trez might leave Juve this summer. Now his agent has started hinting the same. I am disappointed.

    Trez's Chelsea link grows
    Wednesday 1 April, 2009
    Agent Antonio Caliendo has given weight to claims that Juventus striker David Trezeguet will join Chelsea this summer.

    Trezeguet has been unsettled since arguing with Coach Claudio Ranieri when he was taken off during the Champions League last 16 second leg against Chelsea.

    There were widespread reports yesterday that the Frenchman was attracting the attentions of Chelsea and could be subject to an £8m bid.

    “A divorce with Juve could suit both parties,” Caliendo told Tuttosport.

    “For the moment David is just concentrated on the Scudetto and trying to catch Inter.

    “However, Chelsea and another three important English clubs are tracking him and he has never hidden his desire to play in the Premier League.

    “It's a championship that excites him and where he could show his true value.

    “We will talk to the Juve directors, with whom we have an excellent relationship.

    “They know the situation, but they are also thinking about the title for now. We will fix a date somewhere in the future.”
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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:31 am

    C4's idea of an April Fools joke:

    Amauri opts for England
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    Juventus striking star Amauri has sensationally snubbed both Brazil and Italy to pledge his international future to Fabio Capello's England. The Brazilian-born marksman has never worn the Seleção shirt and he had looked likely to try and represent the Azzurri. But in a stunning twist, Amauri has declared that he wants to play under Capello for England.

    And the gifted predator is eligible to represent England due to his grandfather, Graham Carvalho de Oliveira, who was a roofer from Bromsgrove.

    “This decision has brought me many sleepless nights,” he told Brazilian website Diadosbobos.com.

    “But after much deliberation I just had to follow my heart and choose England. I can't wait to work with Capello.

    Amauri also revealed that he had been considering a 'timeshare' agreement with Brazil and Italy before plumping for the Three Lions.

    “I approached Marcello Lippi and Carlos Dunga and suggested they share me,” the former Chievo man explained.

    “I would play for Italy in games that fall on weekdays and for Brazil in any weekend games, while at major tournaments I would represent both.

    "However, the deal didn't seem to get the enthusiasm I expected.

    "That's all behind me now and I am 100 per cent English.

    “I have never been there as such, but it looks nice on TV and I never miss an episode of Judge John Deed.”
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    Post by Tarun Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:56 am

    Laughing

    bluenine wrote:C4's idea of an April Fools joke:

    Amauri opts for England
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    Juventus striking star Amauri has sensationally snubbed both Brazil and Italy to pledge his international future to Fabio Capello's England. The Brazilian-born marksman has never worn the Seleção shirt and he had looked likely to try and represent the Azzurri. But in a stunning twist, Amauri has declared that he wants to play under Capello for England.

    And the gifted predator is eligible to represent England due to his grandfather, Graham Carvalho de Oliveira, who was a roofer from Bromsgrove.

    “This decision has brought me many sleepless nights,” he told Brazilian website Diadosbobos.com.

    “But after much deliberation I just had to follow my heart and choose England. I can't wait to work with Capello.

    Amauri also revealed that he had been considering a 'timeshare' agreement with Brazil and Italy before plumping for the Three Lions.

    “I approached Marcello Lippi and Carlos Dunga and suggested they share me,” the former Chievo man explained.

    “I would play for Italy in games that fall on weekdays and for Brazil in any weekend games, while at major tournaments I would represent both.

    "However, the deal didn't seem to get the enthusiasm I expected.

    "That's all behind me now and I am 100 per cent English.

    “I have never been there as such, but it looks nice on TV and I never miss an episode of Judge John Deed.”
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    Post by Black Magic Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:40 am

    Do Juventus still receive money from Fiat Tarun?
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    Post by Tarun Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:01 pm

    Not sure BM. I am sure they must be. And shirt sponsor New Holland is a Fiat subsidiary
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    Post by bluenine Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:46 pm

    Tarun wrote:Not sure BM. I am sure they must be. And shirt sponsor New Holland is a Fiat subsidiary
    Black Magic wrote:Do Juventus still receive money from Fiat Tarun?

    Agnelli family still owns Juve...
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    Post by Tarun Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:56 am

    Finally, we are closer to our first big signing. And this also suggests a possibility of trying different formations

    Diego: "Juve negotiations are on"
    Wednesday 8 April, 2009
    Werder Bremen star Diego has confirmed “Juventus are my favourite option and negotiations are on going.”

    The Brazilian has long been linked with the club and he has finally broken his silence on the potential £20m deal.

    “Juventus are a great squad and the Italian League is my favourite option,” confessed Diego.

    “I have to focus on Werder right now. I cannot say more and do not know at what stage the negotiations are at, as they are still on going.”

    Diego is not only a target for Juve, but also rivals Inter and other overseas outfits, but the Turin giants have been tracking the trequartista for some time.

    He has already hinted he wishes to leave the Bundesliga at the end of the season and explore other avenues.

    Turin newspaper Tuttosport claims that the player's father and agent Djair Ribas da Cunha had a productive meeting with Juve officials 10 days ago.

    It has been suggested that Diego has agreed personal terms with the Old Lady and is ready to sign a five-year deal.

    Juve may pay around £20m and could include pugnacious Danish midfielder Christian Poulsen in the deal.

    Bremen will take on Udinese in the first leg of the UEFA Cup quarter-final on Thursday evening.

    “Everyone is very nice here and I must repay their enthusiasm. Werder cannot end the campaign in 10th place,” he added.

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    Post by Tarun Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:30 pm

    Some contrasting but very interesting points of view on Channel4 regarding Ranieri

    Blog: Back him or sack him

    If Juventus’ master plan consists of hiring Marcello Lippi in 2010, then Antonio Labbate urges them to carefully consider the position of Claudio Ranieri now – and not later
    On paper it looks like a decent plan. Keep Claudio Ranieri for a year, where he would be expected to consolidate Juventus’ position in the top three, then bring in Marcello Lippi as a technical director to work above a young aspiring Coach with a glittering Old Lady past – like Antonio Conte or Ciro Ferrara. In reality, though, it may be a recipe for disaster.

    There seems to be little doubt that Juventus are keen on a third Lippi era in Turin once his World Cup commitments end in South Africa next year. A recent meeting between director general Jean-Claude Blanc and the current Italian national boss intimated that. The imminent signing of Fabio Cannavaro confirmed it.

    Although Ranieri insisted this week that he’d approved the Cannavaro swoop, it’s widely understood that Juve opened the door for the stopper at the request of Lippi. And if the latter is already having an impact on the club’s market strategies then we shouldn’t expect a move for Antonio Cassano this summer or a Vincenzo Iaquinta sale.

    If Juventus, as is widely believed, have opted to start a new chapter in 2010 – year four of their five-year recovery plan after Calciopoli – then why not turn that page now? Keeping a Coach for a term in the knowledge that he won’t remain is a dangerous ploy and Lippi knows it.

    He was at the helm of the Old Lady in 1998-99 when it became clear in the early part of the campaign that he had already agreed to join Inter at the end of the season. La Vecchia Signora subsequently flopped, winning seven, drawing six and losing seven in the League before a home reverse to Parma saw Lippi resign on the spot. Juve went on to finish a disastrous sixth.

    The Turin giants can’t afford – in every sense – a repeat with Ranieri. Such an outcome would be two steps backwards at the expense of one step forward, a setback that even the most patient Bianconeri follower would find hard to forgive.

    Although Ranieri hasn’t done a bad job with the players he’s had at his disposal, dismissing him this summer, a year before his current agreement expires, is an option which the club would have to consider at the very least.

    Players he has specifically requested have failed to perform, doubts remain over his tactical know-how and his relationship with some of his troops – most notably a number of the senators – isn’t without problems. Those issues may escalate next term if the squad is made aware that he’s on borrowed time.

    If Juventus are thinking about Conte for 2010, the man who is masterminding Bari’s promotion to the top flight, then they should reconsider. Not because he wouldn’t be worthy, but because if he is good enough for then they have to accept that he is good enough for now.

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    Blog: Got lemons? Make lemonade

    As the pressure builds on Claudio Ranieri, Scott Fleming argues his case given the resources at his disposal

    Claudio Ranieri and Juventus never really seemed like the perfect fit. On the one hand there’s Ranieri, amiable and laid back, and on the other there’s Juventus, Italian football’s most successful team, a hard nosed, efficient unit with winning in their blood.

    No disrespect to Ranieri, who had just reasserted his credentials by salvaging Parma from the drop, but it seemed a little like hiring a sitcom star to play a dramatic lead. The Tinkerman had already wilted under the pressure at Chelsea.

    Nonetheless, as the Old Lady’s title dreams fade into a tussle for second place with the resurgent Milan, their last shot at silverware disappears with defeat home and away to Lazio in the Coppa Italia semi final, and the murmurs that have dogged Ranieri throughout his tenure build to a crescendo, I feel it is time to mount a defence of the man.

    This is because I genuinely believe few could have done any better with the current Juve squad. Many are deceived by the smattering of stars in the Bianconeri squad, players like Alessandro Del Piero, Gigi Buffon, Pavel Nedved and David Trezeguet.

    The reality is that this is a club, for all its pride and desire, that is still reeling from its spell in Serie B, with a squad full of players who belong there. The blame for this surely lies with the much maligned sporting director Alessio Secco.

    To suggest that Ranieri didn’t have some input into transfers would be misguided and naïve, but ultimately the buck stops with Secco. His dealings have left Juventus with a squad no better than Roma’s or Fiorentina’s, and yet they are weighed down with a much greater expectation.

    All things considered, not forgetting the mammoth injury crisis the side endured early on, what Ranieri has coaxed out of his players this season is respectable. For a squad so carelessly assembled and unbalanced to sustain a title challenge this long is impressive.

    In addition Juve were easily the most impressive of Italy’s Champions League participants, topping a tough section, beating Real Madrid home and away and pushing Chelsea to the limit. If Phil Scolari had still been in charge it most probably would have ended differently.

    The truth may be that Ranieri, as he did at Stamford Bridge, will eventually have to step aside for the club to reach a position worthy of its status. Hopefully he is remembered fondly, for injecting a bit of pride into a limited squad with the weight of the world on their shoulders.
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    Post by fcb Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:32 am

    Saw some more rumours about Diego today...I don't think it's a secret anymore that Juve are already in talks with him and perhaps even Werder. Apparently the German club want 26m euros, but Juve's initial offer is 20m.
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    Post by Tarun Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:12 pm

    Yeah. There are very strong rumours that he has agreed terms etc. and that it is a matter of time and how hard we negotiate with Werder

    kas wrote:Saw some more rumours about Diego today...I don't think it's a secret anymore that Juve are already in talks with him and perhaps even Werder. Apparently the German club want 26m euros, but Juve's initial offer is 20m.
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    Post by bluenine Fri May 01, 2009 11:03 am

    Diego will be an impressive addition to Juve... finally Secco is making the right kind of investments!!

    I wonder what this does to the prospects of young Giovinco! That kid has been very good for Juve whenever played, and Ranieri as it is does not give him enough playing time. What will happen when Diego replaces Nedved? I would expect Diego to get an automatic spot in the starting XI, so that only leaves 1 position for Camoranesi/Marchioni/Giovinco!!

    Tarun wrote:Yeah. There are very strong rumours that he has agreed terms etc. and that it is a matter of time and how hard we negotiate with Werder

    kas wrote:Saw some more rumours about Diego today...I don't think it's a secret anymore that Juve are already in talks with him and perhaps even Werder. Apparently the German club want 26m euros, but Juve's initial offer is 20m.
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    Post by Tarun Sat May 09, 2009 9:00 am

    A very angry and vocal ex-Juventus player. But a lot of what Tacchinardi says here is making sense in the current scenario

    Tacchi blasts 'incompetent Juve'
    Saturday 9 May, 2009
    Former Juventus star Alessio Tacchinardi launched a stinging attack on “the incompetent directors” and Fabio Cannavaro.

    The battling midfielder was a fan favourite during his 11 years at the club, but he is very clear on who to blame for the current crisis.

    “It is the fault of the incompetent directors,” he told IES TV. “In three years they threw millions away on players who did not leave their mark.

    “People like [Sergio] Almiron, Tiago [Mendes], [Jorge] Andrade, [Christian] Poulsen, [Paolo] De Ceglie, [Zdenek] Grygera, [Hasan] Salihamidzic and many more.

    “Aside from [Mohamed] Sissoko and Amauri, they did nothing but waste money. I was fortunate enough to work with a competent set of directors.”

    Tacchinardi was in the squad during the period tainted by the Calciopoli scandal, which saw former director general Luciano Moggi accused of unethical practices.

    The Italian international also had Cannavaro as his teammate and is not impressed with the Real Madrid star’s decision to return.

    “Cannavaro is another mistake. He is 36 years old, ran away so he wouldn’t have to play in Serie B and now he’s back because it suits him. In that case why don’t we sign [Gianluca] Zambrotta, Emerson and [Fabio] Capello…?”

    Claudio Ranieri is on his way out, but again Tacchinardi disagrees with potential replacement Luciano Spalletti.

    “Antonio Conte and Gianluca Vialli are the right men for the job. They should use Milan as an example, as only those who have worn the shirt and felt that sense of belonging can lead the team.”

    Juventus are currently in third place and take on Milan on Sunday evening, but the former midfielder isn’t holding out much hope.

    “Juve cannot win against Milan and what’s more I think they will end the season in fourth place.”

    The Bianconeri are currently five points clear of Fiorentina and six ahead of Genoa with four rounds left.

    Losing third would be disastrous, as only the top three are guaranteed a spot in the Champions League without the need for play-offs.

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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sat May 09, 2009 6:42 pm

    TBF if Andrade could of stayed fit, he would of been a brilliant signing.
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    Post by fcb Sat May 09, 2009 7:01 pm

    You could say that they shouldn't have signed him in the first place...he had already had 2 knee ligament injuries that kept him out for almost a season at a time.
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    Post by Tarun Thu May 14, 2009 7:39 pm

    Though they are for the next season, but a few positive happenings at the Juve camp:

    We sign a quality AM in Diego
    Cannavaro is back in Turin to strengthen our defense
    Buffon pledges his future to the club
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    Post by bluenine Fri May 15, 2009 12:02 pm

    Tarun wrote:Though they are for the next season, but a few positive happenings at the Juve camp:

    We sign a quality AM in Diego
    Cannavaro is back in Turin to strengthen our defense
    Buffon pledges his future to the club

    Diego and Cannavaro are verry positive moves... now all Juve need is a top RB and a good coach.... if Juve get that, they can challenge Inter next season on equal footing.
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    Post by Tarun Fri May 15, 2009 12:34 pm

    let's see how the Spalletti story plays out. He looks the likely candidate. Though I do not really consider him a plus over Ranieri but the issue is that Ranieri has lost the of confidence of key players like Buffon, Camoranesi, Trez and Del Piero. No point in him continuing at Juventus now.


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    Tarun wrote:Though they are for the next season, but a few positive happenings at the Juve camp:

    We sign a quality AM in Diego
    Cannavaro is back in Turin to strengthen our defense
    Buffon pledges his future to the club

    Diego and Cannavaro are verry positive moves... now all Juve need is a top RB and a good coach.... if Juve get that, they can challenge Inter next season on equal footing.
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    Post by Calidad Wed May 20, 2009 10:45 pm

    I think the Diego purchase is an excellent one, not so sure about Fabio tho...

    Still decent business, if only you can find a good RB. Look at Ilsinho again today, I think he'd be a good buy. Pacey, skillful, if not the most robust, but at 23 has his best years ahead of him.

    Certainly a big season for Giovinco. I think he has been horribly under-utilised so far. Will be interesting to see how the new manager will use him.

    I think Juve should definitely show Trez the door while they still can. Get a few million for him.
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    Post by Tarun Thu May 28, 2009 3:23 pm

    News is that Iaquinta has renewed his contract with Juventus thus effectively quashing any rumors of his moving. Nedved is being persuaded to reconsider his retirement and he might agree to continue next season as well. Given his performances this season, I think it will be a great thing. He still continues to brings a lot to the team.

    The bad news is that Trez looks almost likely to leave the club this summer.
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    Post by fcb Thu May 28, 2009 3:25 pm

    Ahh, so the Spurs rumours were just good old negotiating from his agent.

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